Yugioh! TCG Thread

i'm personally okay with the banlist. some cool stuff (dark hole) but also some shit (oppression/heavy/reborn/brd). i'm excited to see how next format turns out.
I just want to take a second to explain Royal Oppression.

You claim that limiting it is bullshit because hurting anti-meta is pointless. The problem with that is that Royal Oppression was not only used by anti-meta. It saw play in EVERYTHING!

From Machina and Blackwings to Gladiator Beasts and X-Sabers, the card saw successful play in main decks and sides. It is absurdly potent. It's incredibly splashable. Get a good field position, set Oppression. You're probably going to win if they can't answer Oppression. If they can, well that's that and one-for-one's are fantastic, especially when concerning face-down traps which mess up your opponent's game plan.

Remember TeleOppDAD? It was unstoppable. The game became who can draw Oppression first. It turned the skillful TeleDAD matchup into a shit show.

Just realize that all decks use Oppression and Oppression has been a huge thorn in the side of a skilled game since the ruling change allowing it to be a pseudo-counter trap.
 
New deck, but I don't own any Malific Stardust Dragon.

Monsters:18
3|Pgd|Gravekeeper's Spy
3|Fotb|Gravekeeper's Commandant
3|Abpf|Gravekeeper's Descendant
2|Pgd|Gravekeeper's Guard
2|Abpf|Gravekeeper's Visionary
1|Cp03|Gravekeeper's Chief
1|Tp2|Morphing Jar
1|Dp03|Card Trooper
1|Pgd|Gravekeeper's Assailant
1|Abpf|Gravekeeper's Priestess

Spells:15
1|Lob|Dark Hole
1|Ptdn|Allure of Darkness
3|Pgd|Necrovalley
3|Pgd|Royal Tribute
3|Pgd|Book of Moon
3|Abpf|Gravekeeper's Stele
1|Mrl|Mystical Space Typhoon

Traps:6
1|Lon|Torrential Tribute
1|Mrd|Mirror Force
3|Pgd|Rite of Spirit
1|Mrd|Solemn Judgment
1|Lod|Bottomless Trap Hole

Deck:40
 
I have a few thoughts about the Sept. Banlist:

Banned:

Substitoad: This is a very smart ban. It completely renders the Frog OTK useless, but affects other Frog decks not as much, like Froggy Monarchs.

Rescue Cat: This thing is finally banned. Ever since XX-Saber Darksoul came, Kitty became an instant Level 6 Synchro plus an X-Saber in your hand. Also Mine Mole was around in the OCG which might of contributed to it's ban

Heavy Storm: Huh? I don't really understand what this is about. Heavy is a staple in every single deck. Maybe it's to slow down the meta for a little bit. I just don't really know about this.

Brain Control: One of the best topdecks is now finally banned. Like Rescue Cat, Brain Control has been asking to be banned for a while, as it's splashable and pretty much turns the tide of a duel all of the time. So this wasn't really expected.


Limited:

Trishula: Not in the TCG yet, but this is a limit worthy card.

Infernity Launcher: Good, the Infernity OTK is now gone. Seriously, if you use the right cards, this thing can be a fucking +4, which is absolutely ridiculous. But it's now hopefully going to slow down Infernities.

Black Whirlwind: Seeing as Blackwings were dominating the OCG metagame, this doesn't surprise me at all. Usually it's a +1 or +2, but that's just enough to make BW mangle every little thing in their sights.

Monster Reborn: Hahahaha, man it feels like I'm being trolled by Konami. This is really odd, because there is usually only one of the 3 splashable revival cards (Premature Burial, Call of the Haunted, and Monster Reborn) that is unbanned. I think it's to replace Brain Control.

Dark Hole: This and Monster Reborn were two cards that I couldn't really see coming back, but here they are. I think that Konami is going with a more stronger back row and more monster destruction. I think is is for slowing down the pace of game.

Royal Oppression: This is a really big control card. Smack a massive monster on the field, activate Royal Oppression and watch your opponent squirm unless they have a Treeborn Frog in the grave or something. Blackwings mained this because they can easily dance around the effect with Shura or Vayu. I'm still pissed the this card can use it's effect when activated, but Appropriate can't.


Semi-Limited:

Chaos Sorcerer: What is a banlist without this guy moving. Seriously, Chaos Sorcerer bounces between limited and semi so much it make me laugh. It's a good card and I won't be surprised if the bastard gets limited again.

Snipe Hunter: Other than D.D. Crow, this guy is the bane of Stardust Dragon. This guy is like Brionac in roulette form. This poor guy sees pretty much no play anyways, so I'm indifferent of him being semi'd. I do see him in Fabled decks when the rest of them hit the TCG though

Mystical Space Typhoon: This is Konami apologizing for the banning of Heavy Storm. I usually use MST more than Heavy anyways, so I'm good with it.

Ojama Trio:
I see Cactus Fighter OTK being a bit better. Like Snipe Hunter, this poor guy doesn't see much gameplay either. He does set up some pretty neat OTK's though.

Magic Cylinder: I already said that Snipe Hunter and Ojama Trio see almost no gameplay. This thing sees no gameplay at all unless you're playing against someone poor, stupid, or running a burn deck. This thing is pretty much useless and there are much better cards that are unlimited that can be used in it's place.


Unlimited:

Goblin Zombie: Zombies are still dead with Mezuki and Plague-Spreader Zombie limited, so this won't really upset the metagame much.

Cyber Dragon: Now CyDra OTK is now way more feasible as this, Zwei, and Proto are all unlimited. Also Machina Gadgets now are crying as their bane just got unlimited.

Treeborn Frog: Nobody runs 3 of them so this won't really change the meta.

Black Rose Dragon: Why hello Debris-Hime and SalvoDAD. Are you happy that you're going to be tournament worthy again? This is a good thing in my opinion as it will put more decks in the top tier. Plus there aren't many good LV 7 Synchros anyways.

United We Stand: Equips are only used in Power Tool decks or GigaVise so there won't really be any change here.

Royal Decree: Why was this was semi'd in the first place. I don't really see it played much unless it's in a massive beatdown deck or Lightsworns so nothing really will change as Lightsworns aren't like they used to be.



In conclusion, I think that this meta might become a bit more slower with the addition of mass monster destroyers like Dark Hole and Black Rose Dragon, and we will see some new decks like Scraps, Debris-Hime, and SalvoDAD appear in some top 16 lists.
 
I used to play the game a long time ago, back in Middle School. But that was then and this is now. There used to be a Yugioh league in these parts that I never attended because I liked Pokemon league more. Since a lot of Yugioh players seemed to down and insult Pokemon though, I sort of never thought about re-entering the game. It most certainly was a great game though in the days.
 
So, it's been two and a half months since the new banlist has been in effectand Starstrike Blast is coming out with a bit of new things, so this era is now coming to a close. I want to share with everybody a bit of statistics, Mostly the decks that topped YCS Philidalphia, Toronto, and San Jose; along with what decks made it to the top 16

12 X-Sabers
8 Blackwings
6 Quickdraw Dandywarrior
4 Gladiator Beasts
4 Infernity
3 Machina Gadgets
2 Scraps
2 Gemini Anti-Meta
2 Plant Synchro
1 Black Salvo
1 Absolute Zero
1 Twilight/Chaos
1 Lightsworn
1 Flamvell Gravekeepers

Not unlike pre-September 2010, post Shining Darkness; X-Sabers were plentiful with a whopping 12 decks that made it into the top 16 . Blackwings weren't hindered much by the banlist, coming in 2nd with 8 decks that topped; Quickdraw Dandywarrior coming in third with 6 decks.


The first YCS was in Toronto, and Lazaro Bellido's X-Sabers beat Roy St. Clair's X-Sabers. Although the same archetype, Bellido teched in some things like Effect Veiler and Debris Dragon while St. Clair didn't differ from a pre-Duelist Revoltion build. The Duel Report can be found here.

Monsters:
3 XX-Saber Darksoul
3 XX-Saber Fulhelmknight
2 XX-Saber Emmersblade
2 XX-Saber Boggart Knight
2 XX-Saber Faultroll
1 Super-Nimble Mega Hamster
1 Sangan
1 Effect Veiler
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 X-Saber Pashuul
1 X-Saber Airbellum
1 Debris Dragon

Spells:
3 Book of Moon
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Cold Wave
1 Giant Trunade
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Pot of Duality
1 Mind Control
1 Enemy Controller

Traps:
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Gottoms’ Emergency Call
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Solemn Warning
1 Trap Stun

Side Deck:
3 Cyber Dragon
1 Effect Veiler
1 Nobleman of Crossout
1 Nobleman of Extermination
1 Smashing Ground
2 Swallow Flip
1 Starlight Road
1 Chivalry
1 Dust Tornado
1 Light-Imprisoning Mirror
1 Gottoms’ Emergency Call
1 Malevolent Catastrophe

Extra Deck:
2 XX-Saber Gottoms
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 X-Saber Urbellum
2 XX-Saber Hyunlei
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Goyo Guardian
1 Naturia Beast
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Magical Android
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

Monsters:
2 X-Saber Pashuul
3 XX-Saber Faultroll
3 XX-Saber Fulhelmknight
3 XX-Saber Darksoul
3 XX-Saber Emmersblade
3 XX-Saber Boggart Knight

Spells:
1 Reinforcement of the Army
2 Gold Sarcophagus
2 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Mind Control
1 Giant Trunade
1 Cold Wave

Traps:
3 Gottoms’ Emergency Call
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Royal Oppression
3 Trap Stun
2 Solemn Warning

Side Deck:
1 Thunder King Rai-Oh
3 Volcanic Queen
3 System Down
3 Nobleman of Extermination
1 Solemn Warning
3 D.D. Crow
1 Mystical Space Typhoon

Extra Deck:
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
3 XX-Saber Hyunlei
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Naturia Beast
1 Mist Wurm
2 XX-Saber Gottoms
2 Stardust Dragon
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Goyo Guardian
1 X-Saber Urbellum



The next YCS was in San Jose. This had Angel Flores' Gemini Anti-Meta deck beat Mark Garcia's Blackwing deck to win. Flores' deck was Anti-Meta with Elemental Hero Neos Alius, Gemini Spark, and Hero Blast for support, while Garcia's deck was a very standard Blackwing deck with 2 copies of Deck Devastation Virus teched in. The Duel Report can be found here.

Monsters: 16
1 Elemental Hero Stratos
3 Elemental Hero Neos Alius
2 Honest
2 Effect Veiler
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
2 Doomcaliber Knight
2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
2 Cyber Dragon
1 Banisher of the Radiance


Spells: 15
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Nobleman of Crossout
1 Dark Hole
2 Book of Moon
1 Nobleman of Extermination
1 Reinforcement of the Army
1 Monster Reborn
1 E – Emergency Call
3 Pot of Duality
3 Gemini Spark


Traps: 10
3 Solemn Warning
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Dimensional Prison
2 Hero Blast
1 Torrential Tribute


Side Deck: 15
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Royal Oppression
1 Mind Crush
2 Starlight Road
2 Gottoms’ Emergency Call
1 Super Polymerization
2 System Down
1 Nobleman of Crossout
2 Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo
2 Consecrated Light


Extra Deck: 15
2 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Dragon Knight Draco-Equiste
1 Elemental Hero Gaia
1 Elemental Hero Absolute Zero
1 Cyber Twin Dragon
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Flamvell Uruquizas
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Goyo Guardian
1 Magical Android
1 Mist Wurm
2 Stardust Dragon

Monsters: 19
3 Blackwing – Sirocco the Dawn
3 Blackwing – Shura the Blue Flame
3 Blackwing – Bora the Spear
3 Blackwing – Blizzard the far North
2 Blackwing – Vayu the Emblem of Honor
1 Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind
1 Dark Armed Dragon
3 Blackwing – Kalut the Moonshadow


Spells: 7
2 Pot of Duality
2 Book of Moon
1 Black Whirlwind
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Monster Reborn


Traps: 16
3 Icarus Attack
2 Deck Devastation Virus
2 Delta Crow – Anti Reverse
2 Solemn Warning
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Mind Crush
1 Seven Tools of the Bandit
1 Mirror Force
1 Royal Oppression
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Bottomless Trap Hole


Side Deck: 15
2 Cyber Dragon
2 D.D. Crow
2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
2 Legendary Jujitsu Master
1 Starlight Road
3 Nobleman of Crossout
2 Fissure
1 Dark Hole


Extra Deck: 15
2 Blackwing Armed Wing
2 Blackwing Armor Master
1 Blackwing – Silverwind the Ascendant
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Magical Android
1 Goyo Guardian
1 Mist Wurm
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon


The 3rd YCS was in Philidelphia. This had Thanh Nguyen's Plant Synchro deck defeating Kenny Kwan's Quickdraw Dandywarrior. Both of their main decks were very standard and nothing really stood out in them. The Duel Report can be found here.

Monsters:
2 Lonefire Blossom
2 Super-Nimble Mega Hamster
2 Debris Dragon
2 Dandylion
1 Tytannial, Princess of Camellias
1 Card Trooper
1 Sangan
1 Spore
3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
2 Cyber Dragon
3 Caius the Shadow Monarch

Spells:
3 Pot of Avarice
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Cold Wave
1 Dark Hole
1 Foolish Burial
1 Monster Reborn
3 Book of Moon

Traps:
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Mirror Force
1 Seven Tools of the Bandit

Side Deck:
2 D.D. Crow
2 Effect Veiler
2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
1 My Body as a Shield
2 Starlight Road
2 Divine Wrath
1 Seven Tools of the Bandit
2 Swallow Flip
1 Royal Decree

Extra Deck:
2 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Goyo Guardian
2 Stardust Dragon
1 Iron Chain Dragon
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Red Dragon Archfiend
2 Black Rose Dragon
2 Scrap Dragon
1 Armory Arm

Monsters:
3 Debris Dragon
3 Caius the Shadow Monarch
2 Lonefire Blossom
2 Dandylion
1 Effect Veiler
1 Spore
2 Quickdraw Synchron
3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
1 Super-Nimble Mega Hamster
1 Tytannial, Princess of Camellias
1 Card Trooper
1 Sangan

Spells:
1 Dark Hole
2 Pot of Avarice
1 Foolish Burial
2 Book of Moon
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Pot of Duality
1 Monster Reborn

Traps:
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Seven Tools of the Bandit
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Stun
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment

Side Deck:
2 Cyber Dragon
2 Trap Hole
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Effect Veiler
1 My Body as a Shield
2 Doomcaliber Knight
2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
2 Nobleman of Crossout
1 Royal Oppression
1 Seven Tools of the Bandit

Extra Deck:
1 Iron Chain Dragon
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Red Dragon Archfiend
1 Goyo Guardian
1 Armory Arm
2 Stardust Dragon
2 Black Rose Dragon
1 Drill Warrior
1 Junk Destroyer
1 Scrap Dragon



Anyways, with Starstrike Blast just coming out, what will we see? My prediction is a bunch of Scraps with the large amount of support that they will get, and Quickdraw Dandywarrior with Tuning. But who knows, only time will tell.
 
Monsters:19
3|Sdmm|Machina Gearframe
3|Sdmm|Machina Fortress
2|Sdmm|Machina Force
1|Sdmm|Machina Peacekeeper
2|Sd10|Green Gadget
2|Sd10|Red Gadget
2|Sd10|Yellow Gadget
2|Sdmm|Scrap Recycler
1|Jump|Tragoedia
1|Dlg1|Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

Spells:11
3|Ioc|Smashing Ground
3|Pgd|Book of Moon
1|Lob|Dark Hole
1|Psv|Limiter Removal
2|Mrl|Mystical Space Typhoon
1|Lob|Monster Reborn

Traps:11
1|Mrd|Mirror Force
1|Dpct|Starlight Road
1|Lod|Royal Oppression
1|Drev|Solemn Warning
1|Lon|Torrential Tribute
1|Mrd|Solemn Judgment
3|Wc08|Dimensional Prison
2|Lod|Bottomless Trap Hole

Deck:41

That is what I will be running for the rest of the format I guess.
 

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