BH Zamazenta-C (Fur/Scales Wall, Fire Immune Wall) [QC 2/2] (GP 1/1)

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[SET]
name: Wall
move 1: Anchor Shot
move 2: Thunderous Kick / Entrainment / Knock Off
move 3: Topsy-Turvy / Spectral Thief / Aromatherapy
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers / Rusted Shield / Rocky Helmet
ability: Ice Scales / Fur Coat
nature: Careful / Jolly / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Zamazenta-C's Steel typing and excellent base stats make it one of the tier's most reliable mixed walls. Fur Coat and Ice Scales maximize Zamazenta-C's bulk in either attacking spectrum, allowing it to easily withstand hits from some of the tier's most dangerous attackers like Xerneas, Regigigas, and Eternatus. Anchor Shot can trap and eliminate targets that its ability walls, allowing Zamazenta-C to dispatch sets of almost every common threat. Thunderous Kick is Zamazenta-C's primary Fighting-type STAB move, as its Defense drops excel at forcing targets out or eliminating them if they cannot switch. Body Press and Low Kick can be used on Fur Coat sets and allow Zamazenta-C to trap and eliminate any Imposter users that copy it - Low Kick deals more overall damage, but Body Press is safer for Imposter-proofing and also meaningfully damages Kartana. Ice Scales sets can't Imposter-proof themselves if they use Fighting-type coverage, so alternative utility options like Knock Off and Entrainment can be used. Spectral Thief removes stat boosts from threats that can potentially boost past Zamazenta-C, such as Simple Eternatus and Quiver Dance Xerneas, with Topsy-Turvy as an option to deny Regigigas from breaking through with Swords Dance. Aromatherapy is a useful tool to cleanse status whilst also maintaining an offensive profile, helping combat Zamazenta-C's biggest limiting factor in paralysis. Rusted Shield can be used to block Knock Off and Trick, which is mainly used to help limit Choice-locked wallbreakers like Eternatus. Alternatively, Rocky Helmet punishes physical attackers that rely on contact moves, such as Regigigas, Zekrom, and Palkia.

Zamazenta-C with Fur Coat or Ice Scales tends to be a team's primary wall to physical or special attackers, respectively, so team support to help limit the threats that can break past it is recommended. Zygarde-C makes a good teammate, as most of the threats that can break past Fur Coat Zamazenta-C, such as Desolate Land Ho-Oh and Swords Dance Regigigas with Nuzzle and Precipice Blades, can't easily break through Zygarde-C. Zamazenta-C also hates paralysis, so Zygarde-C doubles as a switch-in to most Nuzzle users like Lunala and RegenVest users. Ice Scales sets tend to lose mostly to mixed attackers or to explosive setup threats, such as Aerilate Rayquaza, Simple Eternatus with Blue Flare, and Simple Lunala with Final Gambit, so Prankster users like Groudon and RegenVest users like Kyogre can help check these threats. Imposter-proofing these sets is typically either done by itself (for Fur Coat variants), Zygarde-C, or Ghost-types like Lunala and Giratina, as these aren't massively bothered by Zamazenta-C's damage and can threaten back with Thousand Waves or Nuzzle, respectively.

[SET]
name: Fire Immunity
move 1: Anchor Shot / Fishious Rend
move 2: Thunderous Kick / Fishious Rend
move 3: Spectral Thief / Topsy-Turvy / Knock Off / Flip Turn
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers / Expert Belt
ability: Primordial Sea / Flash Fire
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With Zamazenta-C's ability granting it an immunity to Fire-type attacks, it can blanket check most of the tier, as most wallbreakers rely on V-create or Blue Flare to break Zamazenta-C. Primordial Sea cannot be negated by Mold Breaker users such as Kyurem-B and allows use of a rain-boosted Fishious Rend, which allows Zamazenta-C to directly threaten Groudon and Ho-Oh. Flash Fire doesn't announce itself when Zamazenta-C enters the field, grants an immunity to Will-O-Wisp, and also retains effectiveness if a Desolate Land user switches in to Zamazenta-C. Spectral Thief and Topsy-Turvy can stop certain threats such as Simple Eternatus and Shift Gear Ho-Oh from boosting past Zamazenta-C and through the rest of the team. Knock Off can be used to remove Leftovers, Assault Vest, and Rocky Helmet from common switch-ins such as Zygarde-C, Lunala, Giratina, and Kyogre. Flip Turn generates momentum while dealing non-trivial damage thanks to Primordial Sea. Expert Belt with three attacks allows Zamazenta-C to more easily threaten the Pokemon it checks, guaranteeing important damage milestones such as a 2HKO on Xerneas with Anchor Shot and an OHKO on Groudon with Fishious Rend.

Threats easily checked by Primordial Sea and Flash Fire Zamazenta-C, such as Kyurem-B, Simple Eternatus, and Desolate Land Ho-Oh, often run coverage to beat it such as Ground-type moves or Nuzzle. As such, backup checks to these threats such as Imposter Chansey and Heal Bell users are recommended to offset these shortcomings. Zamazenta-C can struggle to wall some Regigigas, Xerneas, and Eternatus sets long-term despite the Fire-type immunity, so Zygarde-C, Solgaleo, and Dialga can act as more stable answers. Pixilate Xerneas is appreciated as it keeps the field clear of entry hazards and can often come in safely through Flip Turn. Imposter-proofing this set is usually done with a Fighting-resistant or immune wall like Desolate Land Ho-Oh, Fur Coat Lunala, and Giratina, the last of which can run Griseous Orb which cannot be removed by the Imposter user's Knock Off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Tea Guzzler, 577920]]
- Quality checked by: [[Dragonillis, 466276], [MAMP, 225453]]
- Grammar checked by: [[UT, 523866]]
 
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[SET]
name: Wall
move 1: Anchor Shot
move 2: Thunderous Kick / Body Press / Low Kick
move 3: Topsy-Turvy / Spectral Thief
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers / Rusted Shield / Rocky Helmet
ability: Ice Scales / Fur Coat
nature: Careful / Impish / Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Zamazenta-C's Steel-typing and excellent base stats make it one of the tier's most reliable mixed walls. Fur Coat and Ice Scales maximise Zamazenta-C's bulk in either attacking spectrum, allowing it to easily withstand hits from some of the tier's most dangerous attackers like Xerneas, Regigigas, and Eternatus. Anchor Shot can trap and eliminate targets that your ability walls, allowing Zamazenta-C to dispatch sets of almost every common threat. Thunderous Kick is Zamazenta-C's primary Fighting-type STAB, as it's Defense drops excel at forcing targets out or eliminating them if they cannot switch. Body Press and Low Kick are only used on Fur Coat sets, and allow Zamazenta-C to trap and eliminate any Imposter users that copy it - Low Kick deals more overall damage, but Body Press is safer for Imposter-proofing and also meaningfully damages Kartana. Spectral Thief removes stat boosts from threats that can potentially boost past Zamazenta-C, such as Simple Eternatus or Quiver Dance Xerneas, with Topsy-Turvy as an option to deny Regigigas from breaking through with Swords Dance. Rusted Shield can be used to block Knock Off and Trick, which is mainly used to help limit Choice-locked wallbreakers like Eternatus. Rocky Helmet is an option with Fur Coat to do some cheap damage on all physical attackers, like Kyurem-Black, Regigigas, Zekrom etc.

Zamazenta-C with Fur Coat or Ice Scales tends to be a team's primary wall to Physical or Special attackers, respectively, so team support to help limit the threats that can break past it is recommended. Zygarde-C makes a good teammate as most of the threats that can break past Fur Coat Zamazenta-C, such as Desolate Land Ho-Oh and Swords Dance Regigigas with Nuzzle and Precipice Blades, can't easily break through Zygarde-C. Zamazenta-C also hates paralysis, so Zygarde-C doubles as a switch-in to most Nuzzle users like Lunala and RegenVest users. Ice Scales sets tend to lose mostly to mixed attackers or to explosive setup threats, such as Aerilate Rayquaza, Simple Eternatus with Blue Flare and Simple Lunala with Final Gambit, so Prankster users like Groudon and RegenVest users like Kyogre can help check these threats. Imposter-proofing these sets is typically either done by itself (for Fur Coat variants), Zygarde-C, or Ghost-types like Lunala and Giratina as these aren't massively bothered by Zamazenta-C's damage and can threaten back with Thousand Waves or Nuzzle, respectively.

[SET]
name: Fire Immune
move 1: Anchor Shot / Fishious Rend
move 2: Thunderous Kick / Fishious Rend
move 3: Spectral Thief / Topsy-Turvy / Knock Off
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers / Expert Belt
ability: Primordial Sea / Flash Fire
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With Zamazenta-C's ability granting it an immunity to Fire-type attacks, it can blanket check most of the tier with it's immunity to the most common anti-Steel-type attacks in V-create and Blue Flare. Primordial Sea cannot be negated by Mold Breaker users such as Kyurem-B and allows use of a rain-boosted Fishious Rend, which allows Zamazenta-C to directly threaten Groudon and Ho-Oh. Flash Fire doesn't announce itself when Zamazenta-C enters the field, and also retains effectiveness if a Desolate Land user switches in to Zamazenta-C and give an immune to Will-O-Wisp. Spectral Thief or Topsy-Turvy can stop certain threats such as Simple Eternatus or Shift Gear Ho-Oh from boosting past Zamazenta-C and through the rest of the team. Knock Off can be used to remove Leftovers, Assault Vest or Rocky Helmet from common switchins such as Zygarde-C, Lunala, Giratina and Kyogre. Expert Belt with 3 attacks allows Zamazenta-C to more easily threaten the Pokemon it checks, guaranteeing important damage milestones such as a 2HKO on Xerneas with Anchor Shot and an OHKO on Groudon with Fishious Rend.

Threats whose main goal is directly impeded by Fire Immune Zamazenta-C, such as Kyurem-B, Simple Eternatus and Desolate Land Ho-Oh, often run coverage to beat it such as Ground-type moves or Nuzzle. As such, backup checks to these threats such as Imposter Chansey or Heal Bell users are recommended to offset these shortcomings. Zamazenta-C can struggle to wall some Regigigas, Xerneas and Eternatus sets long-term despite the Fire-type immunity, so Zygarde-C, Solgaleo and Dialga can act as more stable answers. Fire Immune Zamazenta-C usually finds its way onto teams as an Imposter-proof to other offensive threats like Kyurem-W and Reshiram, most of which are weak to Stealth Rock, so teammates that can help remove entry hazards such as Pixilate Xerneas are appreciated. Imposter-proofing this set is usually done with a Thunderous Kick resist or immunity like Desolate Land Ho-Oh, Fur Coat Lunala or Giratina, the last of which can run Griseous Orb which cannot be removed by the Imposter user's Knock Off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Tea Guzzler, 577920]]
- Quality checked by: [[Dragonillis, 466276], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

I have almost nothing to add, well done Tea Guzzler :blobwizard:
 
writing analyses for bulky steels in bh is always so miserable, feels like there's no way to avoid having a billion slashes. i almost wonder if anchor and anchorless sets should be seperated? something to try out next gen i reckon

set 1:

-i dont think ice scales often wants to run a fighting move, bc it loses to imposter. id drop body press for entrainment or knock off, and mention that scales prefers to run that.

set 2:

-the bit about hazard removal for kyu-b and reshiram is tenuous, i'd cut that

qc 2/2
 
add remove conjecture
[SET]
name: Wall
move 1: Anchor Shot
move 2: Thunderous Kick / Body Press / Low Kick / Entrainment / Knock Off is it at all possible to reduce the number of slashes here? you can still mention them in the paragraph even if they're not here
move 3: Topsy-Turvy / Spectral Thief / Aromatherapy
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers / Rusted Shield / Rocky Helmet
ability: Ice Scales / Fur Coat
nature: Careful / Jolly / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Zamazenta-C's Steel-typing hyphen and excellent base stats make it one of the tier's most reliable mixed walls. Fur Coat and Ice Scales maximise maximize Zamazenta-C's bulk in either attacking spectrum, allowing it to easily withstand hits from some of the tier's most dangerous attackers like Xerneas, Regigigas, and Eternatus. Anchor Shot can trap and eliminate targets that your its ability walls, allowing Zamazenta-C to dispatch sets of almost every common threat. Thunderous Kick is Zamazenta-C's primary Fighting-type STAB move, as its Defense drops excel at forcing targets out or eliminating them if they cannot switch. Body Press and Low Kick are only used on Fur Coat sets, (comma) and allow Zamazenta-C to trap and eliminate any Imposter users that copy it - Low Kick deals more overall damage, but Body Press is safer for Imposter-proofing and also meaningfully damages Kartana. Ice Scales sets can't Imposter-proof themselves if they use Fighting-type coverage, so alternative utility options like Knock Off or and Entrainment can be used. Spectral Thief removes stat boosts from threats that can potentially boost past Zamazenta-C, such as Simple Eternatus or and Quiver Dance Xerneas, with Topsy-Turvy as an option to deny Regigigas from breaking through with Swords Dance. Aromatherapy is a useful tool to cleanse status whilst also maintaining an offensive profile, helping combat Zamazenta-C's biggest limiting factor in paralysis. Rusted Shield can be used to block Knock Off and Trick, which is mainly used to help limit Choice-locked wallbreakers like Eternatus. Alternatively, Rocky Helmet punishes physical attackers that rely on contact moves, such as Regigigas, Zekrom, and Palkia.

Zamazenta-C with Fur Coat or Ice Scales tends to be a team's primary wall to physical or special attackers, respectively, so team support to help limit the threats that can break past it is recommended. Zygarde-C makes a good teammate, (comma) as most of the threats that can break past Fur Coat Zamazenta-C, such as Desolate Land Ho-Oh and Swords Dance Regigigas with Nuzzle and Precipice Blades, can't easily break through Zygarde-C. Zamazenta-C also hates paralysis, so Zygarde-C doubles as a switch-in to most Nuzzle users like Lunala and RegenVest users. Ice Scales sets tend to lose mostly to mixed attackers or to explosive setup threats, such as Aerilate Rayquaza, Simple Eternatus with Blue Flare, (comma) and Simple Lunala with Final Gambit, so Prankster users like Groudon and RegenVest users like Kyogre can help check these threats. Imposter-proofing these sets is typically either done by itself (for Fur Coat variants), Zygarde-C, or Ghost-types like Lunala and Giratina, (comma) as these aren't massively bothered by Zamazenta-C's damage and can threaten back with Thousand Waves or Nuzzle, respectively.

[SET]
name: Fire Immune Immunity
move 1: Anchor Shot / Fishious Rend
move 2: Thunderous Kick / Fishious Rend
move 3: Spectral Thief / Topsy-Turvy / Knock Off / Flip Turn
move 4: Recover
item: Leftovers / Expert Belt
ability: Primordial Sea / Flash Fire
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With Zamazenta-C's ability granting it an immunity to Fire-type attacks, it can blanket check most of the tier with its immunity to the most common anti-Steel-type attacks in V-create and Blue Flare tier, as most wallbreakers rely on V-create or Blue Flare to break Zamazenta-C. Primordial Sea cannot be negated by Mold Breaker users such as Kyurem-B and allows use of a rain-boosted Fishious Rend, which allows Zamazenta-C to directly threaten Groudon and Ho-Oh. Flash Fire doesn't announce itself when Zamazenta-C enters the field, grants an immunity to Will-O-Wisp, and also retains effectiveness if a Desolate Land user switches in to Zamazenta-C. Spectral Thief or and Topsy-Turvy can stop certain threats such as Simple Eternatus or and Shift Gear Ho-Oh from boosting past Zamazenta-C and through the rest of the team. Knock Off can be used to remove Leftovers, Assault Vest or Vest, and Rocky Helmet from common switch-ins hyphen such as Zygarde-C, Lunala, Giratina, (comma) and Kyogre. Flip Turn is used to generate generates momentum whilst while dealing non-trivial damage thanks to Primordial Sea. Expert Belt with 3 three attacks allows Zamazenta-C to more easily threaten the Pokemon it checks, guaranteeing important damage milestones such as a 2HKO on Xerneas with Anchor Shot and an OHKO on Groudon with Fishious Rend.

Threats whose main goal is directly impeded by Fire Immune easily checked by Primordial Sea and Flash Fire Zamazenta-C, such as Kyurem-B, Simple Eternatus, (comma) and Desolate Land Ho-Oh, often run coverage to beat it such as Ground-type moves or Nuzzle. As such, backup checks to these threats such as Imposter Chansey or and Heal Bell users are recommended to offset these shortcomings. Zamazenta-C can struggle to wall some Regigigas, Xerneas, (comma) and Eternatus sets long-term despite the Fire-type immunity, so Zygarde-C, Solgaleo, (comma) and Dialga can act as more stable answers. Pixilate Xerneas is appreciated as it keeps the field clear of entry hazards and can often come in safely through Flip Turn. Imposter-proofing this set is usually done with a Thunderous Kick resist or immunity Fighting-resistant or immune wall like Desolate Land Ho-Oh, Fur Coat Lunala or Lunala, and Giratina, the last of which can run Griseous Orb which cannot be removed by the Imposter user's Knock Off.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Tea Guzzler, 577920]]
- Quality checked by: [[Dragonillis, 466276], [MAMP, 225453]]
- Grammar checked by: [[UT, 523866]]
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