Cresselia has recycle according to smogon database, but appearantly in shoddy team builder, it is not present.
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(Archive) Pokemon Database Errors Thread
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Only because Recycle is not implemented on Shoddy. Cresselia does indeed get Recycle.
On the main D/P Pokemon page, one of the pokemon's names has a Typo. Ho-Oh, is supposed to have the "O" after the hyphen capitalized; however, on the main page it isn't.
More likely than not, this has not been included because Snatch wasm't implimented on Shoddy Battle.
Good point, the entire abilities section need a mass recache after the latest tiering update.
I think it would be helpful to revise the "Differences in R/B/Y" page (http://www.smogon.com/rb/articles/differences). It would be beneficial to mention (specifically) the differences between in-game-play and online play. Pertaining to online play, there are several errors. As there are more than a few people (including myself) who are trying to revive competitive RBY netbattle play, it would be nice to have an accurate description of how RBY battling works. The misinformation (at least in the context of NB) definitely doesn't help the new players.
I would be happy to amend the page so that it has both the information for in-game-play and online-play.
Relating to NB, I submit these corrections:
1. Counter does NOT effect ghosts.
2. Fully Paralyzing or Hurting Oneself in Confusing while underground or in the air does NOT "rend the user invulnerable until switched out or until fly/dig is used again."
3. Substitute does NOT block the secondary effects of attacks (such as Body Slam induced Paralysis). These effects can take place whether or not the substitute breaks. This information has been tested and is contrary to what the Smogon page says. The only possible exceptions are the attacks Psybeam and Confusion, as I have not experimented with these yet.
Examples:
Rattata used Substitute.
Tauros used Body Slam. The substitute broke. Rattata was paralyzed.
Cloyster used Substitute.
Meowth used Body Slam. The substitute took the damage (remained intact). Cloyster was paralyzed.
I hope these help! Please let me know if I can be of service in revamping the above-mentioned page. As someone who only plays RBY, I would be more than happy to improve the page so that it reaches out to the online uses as well as the in-game users.
WW
I would be happy to amend the page so that it has both the information for in-game-play and online-play.
Relating to NB, I submit these corrections:
1. Counter does NOT effect ghosts.
2. Fully Paralyzing or Hurting Oneself in Confusing while underground or in the air does NOT "rend the user invulnerable until switched out or until fly/dig is used again."
3. Substitute does NOT block the secondary effects of attacks (such as Body Slam induced Paralysis). These effects can take place whether or not the substitute breaks. This information has been tested and is contrary to what the Smogon page says. The only possible exceptions are the attacks Psybeam and Confusion, as I have not experimented with these yet.
Examples:
Rattata used Substitute.
Tauros used Body Slam. The substitute broke. Rattata was paralyzed.
Cloyster used Substitute.
Meowth used Body Slam. The substitute took the damage (remained intact). Cloyster was paralyzed.
I hope these help! Please let me know if I can be of service in revamping the above-mentioned page. As someone who only plays RBY, I would be more than happy to improve the page so that it reaches out to the online uses as well as the in-game users.
WW
The on site generational articles are intended to reflect the games, not any simulator. The only place I could possibly see this info going would be in a "list of NB glitches" article (probably in the /netbattle/ section) which could be linked to from the RB differences guide. I don't know for sure if this is wanted, but it could help RBY players even if it does not relate to true Pokemon.
Also this is not the correct thread to put forward your suggestion. This thread is only for errors in the Pokemon database and the RB differences guide is user generated content (editable via SCMS by any badgeholder). I would suggest you put forward your idea in the suggestion box, then if it is approved it could be placed in it's own thread in the Articles forum.
Also this is not the correct thread to put forward your suggestion. This thread is only for errors in the Pokemon database and the RB differences guide is user generated content (editable via SCMS by any badgeholder). I would suggest you put forward your idea in the suggestion box, then if it is approved it could be placed in it's own thread in the Articles forum.
This is known, I have it in my big list on the previous page. It's just waiting for someone with database access to fix it.
VKCA
(Virtual Circus Kareoky Act)
Someone had it in their sig, but I have not seen it mentioned in this thread, so it should probably be brought up.
In rotom h's analysis it says underneath the Team options section (third paragraph)
In rotom h's analysis it says underneath the Team options section (third paragraph)
They miss out on resistances to water, grass, electric, ice, rock and dragon iirc.
Seriously, I had _no_ idea where to post this...
In the new Team Builder, CAP Pokemon links lead to DP....
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/arghonaut in the Team Builder should actually be
http://www.smogon.com/cap/pokemon/arghonaut
http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/paleo_wave also leads nowhere... same for http://www.smogon.com/cap/moves/paleo_wave I don't follow CAP so I don't know if its supposed to be that way...
In the new Team Builder, CAP Pokemon links lead to DP....
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/arghonaut in the Team Builder should actually be
http://www.smogon.com/cap/pokemon/arghonaut
http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/paleo_wave also leads nowhere... same for http://www.smogon.com/cap/moves/paleo_wave I don't follow CAP so I don't know if its supposed to be that way...
It is stated in an explaination for Wide Lens that a Rock Slide boosted by Wide Lens is given a 100% accuracy status from its previous 90%. If we do the math, (90 x 1.1) = 99. Not 100.
Actually, smogon.com/cap/moves/ is a blank page. The most useful lpace for that to link would probably be Strategem's Moves page, but even that isn't the best choice, since it's not exclusively about that move.
This thread is just for errors in the Pokemon database, as stated in the OP. If you don't know where something goes contact a mod or other helpful person and ask. In this case, I'm not entirely sure where this would have fitted best, but the damage calc thread in stark would have been a better bet than here. Anyway, Colin said that it does not support CaP yet. I do not know if he intends to add in support for CaPs.
Fixed, but for future referrence this is not the correct thread. Anything relating to the descriptions of effect of items, moves abilities or analyses should go in one of the small changes threads.
Doug is planing to/working on adding the new moves and abilities to /cap.
http://www.smogon.com/rb/moves/mimic
I've been testing Mimic in Colosseum (RBY Link Battling). This is the description I've come up with:
Also, would it be best if it was clearly stated that: the move taking Mimic's place does not take Mimic's max PP (even if Mimic's current PP exceeds the max of the move - e.g. 8/5 Mega Kick)? Though, this is only a text related issue as far as the player is concerned. Perhaps for future inclusion in an RBY battle-text article?
I've been testing Mimic in Colosseum (RBY Link Battling). This is the description I've come up with:
The only two issues with the description are with regards to current moveset and current PP. I define current moveset to be the current selection of moves available for the next turn (in a battle) and current PP to be the available PP left for use. Maybe there's a better way of putting it.
Also, would it be best if it was clearly stated that: the move taking Mimic's place does not take Mimic's max PP (even if Mimic's current PP exceeds the max of the move - e.g. 8/5 Mega Kick)? Though, this is only a text related issue as far as the player is concerned. Perhaps for future inclusion in an RBY battle-text article?
Good stuff, I've added it with minor modifications and included the note about max PP not being copied. However, in future could everyone please use the Small Objective changes thread for this kind of thing, the OP of this thread clearly states that:
This thread is for the things that normal SCMS can't fix, the internal database. Wording and descriptions are easy for any badgeholder to edit, so the small changes threads are much more appropriate.
(((2*130+31+(252/4))*100/100+5)*1.1)=394.9
Rounded down=394
394 is correct, where did you get 395?
Rounded down=394
394 is correct, where did you get 395?
Well I have no idea xD but my Machamp had 395 attack points. I didn't use any cheats either. I calculated the IV's on serebii.net and they said that my IV for the attack stat is 31. They didn't say anything about an invalid number either, so I believe it's possible to get 395 attack.
Serebii's IV calc does not have a cap for invalid IVs apparently, and just gives you 31 if you put an impossible number in. Which leads to one of these conclusions: either your Machamp is hacked, you are making some sort of an error when checking it's attack, or everyone else has got the stat formula wrong for ~10 years.
It turns red when you enter an invalid value... I catched 60 machops to get one with max attack IV, so I'm not a cheater.
Here are his stats: 305 HP - 385 Attack - 185 Defense - 137 Special attack - 195 Special defense - 201 Speed. I already EV trained it.
EDIT: When I enter 385 attack and 252 EV for attack, Serebii.net calculator says that I have 22 attack IV, which makes absolutely no sens whatsoever.
Your Machamp has 385 Attack, not 395. Serebii returns a 22 Attack IV because the maximum Attack is 394. There's no problem here.