Unfortunately, they are looking at first/second round exits this year and miss out on this year's draft, which is ironic because it is super deep in terms of PG talent: Irving, Barnes, B.Knight, Perry Jones, Josh Selby and Corey "Cojo" Joseph (repping Tdot bitches!). Instead, you have Raymond Felton and TDouglas (who has no concept of how to run a team... or anything) for the future.Stoudemire was amazing against the Celtics
knicks definitely have a playoff team, no thanks to Rautins.
Hold up. Wouldn't go that far. The Laker's bench outside of Odom still lack depth.Dr.Dodgeball said:and great secondary unit that looks like a starting lineup.
Possibly. All depends on the play of Raymond Felton. Their division is pretty bad so I can see them as a lower seed at the highest.Tsunami said:Knicks definitely have a playoff team, no thanks to Rautins.
Barnes is offensively limited. Brown's actually had some strange shooting games this pre-season but I'm still under the assumption that he's just another athletic guard. Steve Blake is okay.. but that's not something a bunch of teams would 'kill' for. They'd kill for Lamar Odom. That's it.Lakers said:You do realize Barnes and Blake are coming off the bench right? Along with Brown... most teams would kill to have depth like that, those players just need to start accepting their roles and play well off the bench
Yeah, I think the Lakers didn't sign Barnes to shoot hoops. Matt Barnes is known to be a very reliable defender and, I might say, a good rebounder. Blake would be a good back-up for Fisher. He's a good PG. As for Shannon Brown, he still needs to improve more on the dribbling and shooting. Don't know if the hand injury is gone or not. But S. Brown's role is not hard. Just dunk easy baskets.Barnes is offensively limited. Brown's actually had some strange shooting games this pre-season but I'm still under the assumption that he's just another athletic guard. Steve Blake is okay.. but that's not something a bunch of teams would 'kill' for. They'd kill for Lamar Odom. That's it.
You said it was a starting line-up and a bench other teams would kill for.Yeah, I think the Lakers didn't sign Barnes to shoot hoops. Matt Barnes is known to be a very reliable defender and, I might say, a good rebounder. Blake would be a good back-up for Fisher. He's a good PG. As for Shannon Brown, he still needs to improve more on the dribbling and shooting. Don't know if the hand injury is gone or not. But S. Brown's role is not hard. Just dunk easy baskets.
Steve Blake - standard point guard that can pass and spot-up.A good bench isn't glamorous, but it is something that a lot of teams wish that they had
HeroMasaki said:Barnes and Odom are offensive liabilities? Is that some kind of joke?
Watch both Celtics series if you don't believe me.DerrickRose said:This is obvious because people sag off of them or purposely leave them open in half-court sets.
You could say the same thing for a bunch of other teams. A lot of benches have a standard point guard, a defender, and a guy to run your offense through; at least on average.HeroMasaki said:The fact is, 3 of their bench players would be starters on many other teams.
Blake, as far as I'm concerned, really isn't that much better then Fisher (Aaron Brooks became well-known for beating the crap out of Fisher in 2009, but he also beat the crap out of Blake when we faced Portland), Barnes is as said a complete offensive liability as well as a total punk (there is a reason he hasn't been on any team for any major length of time), and Odom is decent. Lakers bench isn't bad, but not one of the best. I mean, from my perspective, the Rockets bench this preseason destroyed the Pacers starters, and while it's preseason it says something, not to mention Hayes, Lee, Lowry, and Budinger all could theoretically start.DR, if you're gonna say that isn't the best bench in the league, you're gonna have to provide examples. The only team I could remotely think of is Orlando maybe (with Bass seeming to finally earning minutes).
The fact is, 3 of their bench players would be starters on many other teams. Blake is a decent Point Guard who can run an offense and knock down clutch shots, Barnes is a good wingman who has started for the Suns and Orlando in recent years and Odom would be a borderline All Star on most teams.
Barnes and Odom are offensive liabilities? Is that some kind of joke?