Gen IV STABmons
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Pokemon Throwback - Gen IV Tier Shift
- Thread starter EV
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A brief interruption:
Voting for Gen V Ability Shift seemed like a good idea, but once Kit Kasai and I started discussing the metagame, we realized some problems with it.
First, the offensive threats:
[21:47:59] %Uselesscrab: huge power entei
[21:48:24] %Uselesscrab: also bisharp, absol, aerodactyl, dusknoir, kyurem, and weavile
[21:48:29] %Uselesscrab: and no fur coat
[21:48:52] %Kit Kasai: .
[21:48:53] %Kit Kasai: okay
[21:48:59] %Uselesscrab: banhammer imo
[21:49:02] %Kit Kasai: I give up
[21:49:06] %Kit Kasai: where is my stall meta
So, we decided:
[21:49:13] %Kit Kasai: also yeah ban hp / pp
But then I inspected the list further:
[21:52:30] %Uselesscrab: ok so im realizing now
[21:52:38] %Uselesscrab: this is basically just gen VI without fur coat
[21:53:44] %Kit Kasai: you should go say that in the thread
http://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/abilities/
Looking at this link, not all that much is different from Gen VI Ability Shift. Very few Generation VI abilities (excluding Protean) were sandwiched between "important" preexisting abilities. We get a few new Regenerators, and some more Sturdy Pokemon, but nothing that can deal with Pure Power users, particularly Entei.
Banning Pure Power seems like an obvious solution, but then we end up with a metagame that is still very similar to its present iteration.
In my opinion, an earlier generation might be a better choice, because while Pressure users still get Pure Power, we can ban them and still get a metagame that differs in identity from Gen VI Ability Shift.
Or we can vote for the other option :/
Voting for Gen V Ability Shift seemed like a good idea, but once Kit Kasai and I started discussing the metagame, we realized some problems with it.
First, the offensive threats:
[21:47:59] %Uselesscrab: huge power entei
[21:48:24] %Uselesscrab: also bisharp, absol, aerodactyl, dusknoir, kyurem, and weavile
[21:48:29] %Uselesscrab: and no fur coat
[21:48:52] %Kit Kasai: .
[21:48:53] %Kit Kasai: okay
[21:48:59] %Uselesscrab: banhammer imo
[21:49:02] %Kit Kasai: I give up
[21:49:06] %Kit Kasai: where is my stall meta
So, we decided:
[21:49:13] %Kit Kasai: also yeah ban hp / pp
But then I inspected the list further:
[21:52:30] %Uselesscrab: ok so im realizing now
[21:52:38] %Uselesscrab: this is basically just gen VI without fur coat
[21:53:44] %Kit Kasai: you should go say that in the thread
http://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/abilities/
Looking at this link, not all that much is different from Gen VI Ability Shift. Very few Generation VI abilities (excluding Protean) were sandwiched between "important" preexisting abilities. We get a few new Regenerators, and some more Sturdy Pokemon, but nothing that can deal with Pure Power users, particularly Entei.
Banning Pure Power seems like an obvious solution, but then we end up with a metagame that is still very similar to its present iteration.
In my opinion, an earlier generation might be a better choice, because while Pressure users still get Pure Power, we can ban them and still get a metagame that differs in identity from Gen VI Ability Shift.
Or we can vote for the other option :/
Well Ability Shift doesn't have a ladder so, Gen V Ability Shift
Gen IV STABmons
Gen V Ability Shift
Fair point, I guess.
Gen V Ability Shift
Monte Cristo
Banned deucer.
Ability Shift sucks literal dongs, best ability meta is the ability meta with an actual perma ladder \o/
nah jk, not hating on my boi BK :c
Anyways I would just love to see another gen 4 meta so Gen IV STABMONS
nah jk, not hating on my boi BK :c
Anyways I would just love to see another gen 4 meta so Gen IV STABMONS
Gen V ability shift cause rain
Also Monte Cristo can you do it the way joim did it and implement the previous month's meta on the server.
Also Monte Cristo can you do it the way joim did it and implement the previous month's meta on the server.
Gen IV STABmons
Gen IV STABmons
What is the cooldown period if there is one.
EV
Banned deucer.
I'm gonna say 3 months. We should be able to try out enough OMs in the meantime, but if something has wide enough applications across multiple generations (like BH), it doesn't half to wait half a year or whatever.