Here are the calcs:
Choice band scizor is not a relaible check because of many reasons. Like its very easy to predict banded scizor and your opponent can just switch into something that resists scizor moves (primal don) for example and its not easy for the mon that has to switch in vs primal don as it can run very dangerous sets like the SD + T-wave one. Banded scizor is just not that good in this meta, it maybe useful in some situations but it relies on fairly large amount of team support to function.
Mega Ray's main STAB is Dragon Ascent since it's forced to run it on every set. Dragon has redundant coverage with Flying so you won't see that often. As shaky as it may be, Mega Aero is the best defensive check to Mega Ray.
This is the toxic thought I feared what comes from the Uber suspect thread. We had Gen 1 Mewtwo Uber ffs, Gen 3 Deoxys A(no idea if that's true), Arceus in Gen4/5(?)
Don't think the comparison is fair. The main difference is that even though XY Ho Oh is really good, it's 4x weak to SR which means it will not have many free switch ins. It's also not very fast + no priority so in the worst case scenario you can always revenge it (or force it to switch out = take SR damage next time it comes in again). Mega Ray is different with unresisted coverage, insane attacking stats, fair defenses and +2 priority.
well , actually this thing is much ez killing than tanking it
Mega-aero, while it does sound like a cool check, has opportunity cost out the wazoo because you can't use mega ray yourself.
The only way Ditto can even hope to check Rayquaza is by sacking something to Dragon Ascent to get the -1 and then trying to hit it with Extremespeed, which is incredibly easy to play around. Otherwise you cannot kill it with your own Espeed and easily get OHKOed by +1 LO Espeed. At that point you just sacked one of your own mons just to check it, and aren't even guaranteed to KO it back (it can just switch out). There really aren't any extremely reliable checks to Rayquaza. Magnet Rise Klefki loses to V-Create, Lum, and Sub variants. Shuca Dialga loses to SD. Extreme Killer can't switch in and needs Ray to be weakened first. Not to mention Primal Groudon laughs at all these and is easily Ray's best partner both offensively and defensively. Xatu + Reflect Lugia can work but Xatu is laughably bad and Lugia absolutely needs Stealth Rock off the field and Multiscale intact to hope to beat it. This thing is a huge problem for ubers, and breaks everything even remotely competitive about the tier just by being the best Pokemon in existence. Sure we had RBY Mewtwo, which was easily a more threatening Pokemon, but RBY Ubers isn't exactly a competitive metagame and has a very very small following for that reason (not to mention it never saw inclusion in official tournaments). So saying that we should just put up with it like any other uber seems incredibly short-sighted and naive to me.
"There is no viable counterplay as far as I have seen. Make sure your own mega Ray wins before your opponent's".
Earthquake is standard on mega-ray and thats enough to kill an aegislash.
because functionally, that's not how ubers works? the only reason m-gengar and shadow tag had suspects wasn't because of them being somehow unbalanced, it's because there was merit to them potentially being uncompetitive, by virtue of what shadow tag as an ability does.
Damn I guess my best tier after 2 years of playing is nothing for me then
I'm talking about ORAS Ubers. You say you've been playing it for 2 years but that was B/W/XY or lower which is different and tiers you can always go back to. An overpowered mon should never be banned from a banlist tier in my opinion not unless theres absolutely zero ways to beat it which is not the case, that's the beauty of Ubers, you need just to find your ways to deal with it. Xerneas changed the tier from what it was in B/W and was very centralizing and we all learned to deal with it so we can do the same with Mega Rayquaza. We just need to either be creative like running Reflect(Lugia is a great user of it), dragon moves we wouldn't normally run on some Pokemon, resist berries, etc or deal with it in a more offensive manner.
Okay since you decided to go down the hard way, here you have it. You very well know that is "going back" to a an old tier like BW Ubers isn't an option- it's a plane rude/dumb statement. Sure I get my fair share of tour play in UPL and sub forum tours, but the lack of general acitivty coupled with Ubers not being as big as OU should explain why there is no going back.
