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I honestly never really cared for Shadrest myself, but I hear it gets results. DP/Crunch/BU/Dragon Tail is a set I like to use because when done right you can just set up on the switch, then phase the switch in, and continue the set-up. It's less effective on teams with lots of sweepers, though...

My point is that he can take a hit or two, but that loses it's point when he takes more hits because of how much slower/weaker he is, and then it just gets silly when people start trying to compromise his defenses for the sake of better attack with sets like LO HJK. They're just trying to turn...

I've never not used Zuru on my team for months. His defenses really aren't all that you play them out to be, especially if you 100% bank on him NOT TAKING HITS by giving him an Orb and HJK. The fact that he might be able to take a hit that Blaziken can't is basically nullified by the fact that...

DD Zuru is basically like a slightly bulkier but much slower and weaker Blaziken. Is the extra bulk worth it when you need to waste 1 turn just to get on a level of strength comperable to Blaziken, and then another to be stronger? Blaziken only takes 1 turn to set-up to a level that would take...

That doesn't seem right. Assuming the skill of both players is at the level where it comes to predicting your opponent's moves, then they're going to be making moves based on what they think you're going to do, just like you'll be making moves based on what you think they're going to do. Why...

HJK is nearly double the base power of Drain Punch. Honestly speaking, Zuruzukin doesn't have remotely near as much aptitude for DD sweeping without it. It really is a tough situation, because with it he has the attack power he needs, but he's also vulnerable to residual damage, Ghosts, and the...

To the guy who was posting damage calcs, how much damage is Zuru taking from these attacks? How many of these WOULD ohko with residual damage? Also LO DD Zuru with HJK really? Forgive my bluntness, but you might as well cross your fingers and hope that there are no ghosts, SS/Hail, Swift Swim...

I feel like people are seriously overestimating Zuru's base bulk and attack strength. I may be wrong though. Anyone got some actual damage calcs?

I agree with Blasphemy with this. Frankly, everyone thinks that if a pokemon can have DD and Moxie then it HAS to run it, but frankly Moxie is just bad on Zuruzukin and DD is a waste of his talents. I mean frankly, it's just not a useful build. Zuru has horrible base 58 speed, how is +1...

Speed is lost on him because the point of Zuruzukin is his bulk, there are other pokemon that do speedy frail sweeper better, and giving him a large attack lead over his Defense makes him ditto-bait. Note that a Zuruzukin who's got an even boost to his attack and defense ALWAYS wins against...

I don't like Intimidate on sweepers. It's just begging for Trace or Ditto to come in and ruin your Attack. Shed Skin is the only real choice for a bulky sweeper anyway. Personally, I run 252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Def EVs and 0 Speed IVs, Shed Skin and Lefties. (Careful nature I think? The -speed...

My only problem with DD sets is that it IS easily countered by Ditto, and bulky fightings like Roopushin. I haven't seen how a 'frail' Zuru would fare against a Mach Punch from either Roopushin or Breloom, though. If you run Bulk Up with Dragon Tail though, you don't have to worry a single bit...

Personally, I stay away from anything other than Bulk Up Dragon Tail because otherwise Mach Punch and Ditto will most likely outclass it, and both ditto/roopushin are very prevalent in the current meta. On the other hand, Shandera has very good synergy with speedy sweeping Zuruzukin because...

Besides, Roopushin's much easier to predict. He's only viable when beefed up Specially via EVs and Bulked up Physical. Zuruzukin can be extremely Physically beefy, extremely Specially beefy, any combination of both, or a Dragon Dance sweeper. He also has the likes of Rest, Shed Skin, STAB dark...

Dang, that's pretty awesome. I can't really get his niche working right though, I mean, he's really Specially Bulky, but since the meta's mostly physical, a lot of the time they just switch in a Roopushin or something, unless I trick them by switching in on a Stone Edge or something to make them...

I have a question, exactly how much can a Max HP/Sp. Def Zuruzukin a +Sp.Def nature survive with full health and lefties? It would be too much to ask to take 2 Focus Blasts from a specially-heavy pokemon, right?

I love it because he's such a lovable little guy, but he's such a beast. All the other threatening pokemon all look so intimidating, and then here comes pantslizard, wrecking everything and not giving a damn.

I see, I never really played around with phazing moves before so I never realized they had negative priority. In that case, nevermind. I guess I'll probably try Slow BU with Ice Punch for coverage. Also as a side note, I really dislike Intimidate as an ability on a physical attacker, the reason...

Hey guys, what do you think about this set? Zuruzukin@Lefties Shed Skin (Defensive spread of your choice)/252 Spe Nature: Jolly Dragon Dance Drain Punch Crunch Dragon Tail Basically, the strategy behind this is that Zuruzukin stays in the field as long as possible, making a nuisance of himself...