RHYP GON' EAT YA!
Also I think the OP messed up the sprites, female Venusaur has the seed and female Rhyp have smaller horns, but the no seed/big horns are on the Females page.
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RHYP GON' EAT YA!
Also I think the OP messed up the sprites, female Venusaur has the seed and female Rhyp have smaller horns, but the no seed/big horns are on the Females page.
Rotofridge has Bolt Beam.
Depends on if it can keep moves.
If so, Blizzard/Overheat/Thunderbolt/Leaf Storm Specs Rotom ftw?
Yep, there's definitely something wrong with those pages. NidoranM in female section? No NidoranF?
RHYP GON' EAT YA!
Also I think the OP messed up the sprites, female Venusaur has the seed and female Rhyp have smaller horns, but the no seed/big horns are on the Females page.
Lol, pony.
Every sprite seems pretty good so far; better than the D/P sprites.
That looks like the prize exchange in veilstone city. Maybe they used the same visual look for pastoria, but since I can't read japanese it's undecided.
Lol, pony.
Every sprite seems pretty good so far; better than the D/P sprites.
I honestly liked the dp sprites better.
Bronzong, Spiritomb, Gible, Lucario, Hippowdon, Infernape, Empoleon, Honchkrow, Weavile, Yanmega, Absol, and Gardevoir have such awesome new sprites. Fantastic find!
Holy shit, sudden influx of Smogoners clicking on sprites? It won't load for me.
Re: move tutor list
This time, I systematically searched every move. Everything in that file should be here now. Stuff I missed before is in Blue. Pokemon that could already get the move in Emerald were not included.
Re: move tutor list
This time, I systematically searched every move. Everything in that file should be here now. Stuff I missed before is in Blue. Pokemon that could already get the move in Emerald were not included.
Where are you getting that Zapdos learns Heat Wave from?Zapdos with heat wave? Do we even need moltres anymore?
Any good upgrades for Gengar? :(
also gengar lost some weight in platinum :(
I love some of these sprites, some are kinda lame... (Abomasnow lol)
Yanmega, Gliscor, Lucario and Garchomp are great IMO <3
As well as Weavile, Magmortar, Vaporeon, Rampardos, Infernape, Snorlax, Rhyperior... ALSO MUNCHLAX LOL
Yanmega, Gliscor, Lucario and Garchomp are great IMO <3
As well as Weavile, Magmortar, Vaporeon, Rampardos, Infernape, Snorlax, Rhyperior... ALSO MUNCHLAX LOL
Tier 0 (CS Users, and >130 base speed)
+nature/252: A pokemon with a beneficial speed nature, and 252 EVs in Speed.
252: A pokemon with a neutral speed nature, and 252 EVs in Speed.
+nature/[number]: A pokemon with a beneficial speed nature, and a certain amount of EVs in Speed.
[number]: A pokemon with a neutral speed nature, and a certain amount of EVs in Speed.
-nature/[number]: A pokemon with a hindering speed nature, and a certain amount of EVs in Speed.
CS: A pokemon holding a Choice Scarf.
One Stage: A pokemon before or after one speed boost.
Two Stages: A pokemon before or after two speed boosts. Remember two speed boosts is equal to one use of Rock Polish/Agility.
([number]): A pokemon with a certain base speed.
no-speed: The pokemon does not have a beneficial speed nature, or any speed EVs.
-nature/31IV: The pokemon has a nature that reduces its speed, but has 31 IVs in speed.
-nature/0IV: The pokemon has a nature that reduces its speed, and also has 0 IVs in speed.
How to use this list: Find the poke you’re building, and see how high on the list it can hit (searching on the page helps). Then, see how far you can go down the list without losing to someone you want to outspeed.
For example: Jolly (+Speed, -Sp.Atk) Garchomp with 252 EVs can hit 333 speed. But the next highest group is at 329 speed (neutral-nature Azelf/Starmie). So Jolly Garchomp can safely run 330 speed (240 EVs) and never lose any extra matchups.
Serebii’s D/P Stat Calculator lets you figure out how many EVs you’ll need to hit a certain speed. It’s also useful if you have a pokemon with a less than 31 IV in speed, or if your specific pokemon isn’t listed. However, keep in mind: if your pokemon has less than a 31 IV in speed, you will never be able to hit a +nature/252 speed listed for your poke!
One Speed Boost: you can find a target speed you’d like to hit after one speed boost, and then multiply that target speed by 2/3. Rounding up the result will give your desired starting speed. Add one if the result does not need to be rounded.
So if you wanted to hit 404 speed after one Dragon Dance (outspeed CS 252 Heracross), type this into your calculator:
404 * 2 / 3
to get 269.33 -> which is 270 speed.
Rock Polish/Agility/Swift Swim: you can choose a target speed after one use (or in the rain), and then divide in half. Rounding up the result will give your desired starting speed. Add one if the result does not need to be rounded.
So if you wanted to hit 419 speed after one use (outspeed CS 252 Moltres, Lucario, PorygonZ), half of that is 209.5 -> so you’d want 210 speed.
Things to be aware of:
Some pokemon that normally don't invest in speed will invest their extra 6 EVs into speed, so if you want to outspeed such a pokemon, you might want to outspeed it by 2 points.
Pokemon with Hidden Power fire and fighting automatically must have a 30 speed IV, and such pokemon usually drop down to one or two points above the next closest benchmark. Be careful to consider the 30 speed IV when adjusting your speed.
Notes:
All speeds are determined by pokemon with a 31 speed IV unless otherwise noted.
Pokemon that run speed EVs but not the maximum amount that are on this list are sets that get some decent attention in the OU metagame.
- 540 - Rain Dantzel
- 538 - CS 252 Aerodactyl, RD Qwilfish (130)
- 523 - CS 252 Weavile (125)
- 508 - Rain 232 Kabutops
- 504 - +nature/252 Deoxys-S (180)
- 499 - CS +nature/252 Garchomp (102)
- 480 -Rain Special Kingdra
- 478 - CS 252 Gengar, Tauros, Froslass (110)
- 475 - One Stage +nature/252 Electivire (95)
- 462 - +nature/96 Deoxys-S
- 460 - +nature/252 Ninjask (160)
- 459 - CS +nature/252 Lucario, Porygon-Z, Roserade (90)
- 459 - 252 Deoxys-S (180)
- 456 - Rain Mixed Kingdra, 208 Ludicolo
- 454 - CS 252 Garchomp (102)
- 448 - CS 252 Slaking, Flygon, Jirachi, Staraptor, BellyZard (100)
- 433 - One Stage 252 Electivire, Yanmega, CS Sharpedo (95)
- 430 - Rock Polish from 215 speed, Rock Polish Rampardos
- 430 - One Stage +nature/252 Gyarados (81)
- 426 - CS +nature/252 Togekiss, Venasaur, Medicham, DDance Dragonite (80)
- 419 - 252 Ninjask (160)
- 418 - CS 252 Lucario, Porygon-Z, Roserade, RD Omastar, RD Relicanth (90)
- 417 - CS +nature/252 Heatran (77)
- 405 - One Stage from 270 speed (outspeeds CS Heracross)
- 405 - 36 Deoxys-S
- 404 - Two Stages from 202 speed(outspeeds CS Heracross), AgiliGross
- 403 - CS 252 Heracross, Pinsir (85)
- 396 - One Stage from 264 speed (outspeeds all base 130s)
- 396 - Two Stages from 198 speed (outspeeds all base 130s)
- 394 - +nature/252 Jolteon, Crobat, Aerodactyl (130)
- 383 - +nature/252 Swellow, Weavile (125)
- 379 - CS 252 Heatran (77)
- 372 - +nature/252 Dugtrio, Alakazam, Sceptile (120)
- 366 - One Stage from 244 speed (outspeeds all base 115s and 252-speed base 130s)
- 361 - +nature/252 Raikou, Azelf, Ambipom, Starmie (115)
- 359 - 252 Jolteon, Crobat, Aerodactyl (130)
- 350 - +nature/252 Gengar, Tauros, Jumpluff (110)
- 349 - 252 Swellow, Weavile (125)
- 346 - +nature/252 Infernape (108)
- 343 - CS +nature/252 Machamp (55)
- 343 - CS 252 Scizor (65)
- 339 - +nature/252 Mismagius (105)
- 339 - 252 Alakazam, Dugtrio, Sceptile (120)
- 334 - One DD from 223 speed (outspeeds all base 100s, Garchomp, and 252-speed base 115s), BulkyGyara
- 333 - +nature/252 Garchomp (102)
- 329 - 252 Raikou, Ambipom, Azelf, Starmie (115)
- 328 - +nature/252 Zapdos, Celebi, Flygon, Salamence, Jirachi, Staraptor, Shaymin (100)
- 319 - 252 Gengar, Tauros, Jumpluff (110)
- 317 - +nature/252 Houndoom, Yanmega, Gliscor, Electivire (95)
- 315 - 252 Infernape (108)
- 309 - 252 Mismagius (105)
- 308 - +nature/176 Zapdos, Celebi, Jirachi (100)
- 306 - +nature/252 Lucario, Porygon-Z, Roserade (90)
- 303 - 252 Garchomp (102)
- 299 - 252 Zapdos, Celebi, Flygon, Salamence, Jirachi, Staraptor, Shaymin (100)
- 295 - +nature/252 Heracross, Pinsir (85)
- 291 - +nature/252 Magmortar (83)
- 289 - 252 Houndoom, Yanmega, Gliscor, Electivire (95)
- 287 - +nature/252 Gyarados (81)
- 284 - +nature/252 Dragonite, Medicham, Togekiss, Mamoswine (80)
- 279 - 252 Lucario, Porygon-Z, Roserade (90)
- 278 - +nature/252 Heatran (77)
- 273 - +nature/252 Smeargle (75)
- 270 - One DD hits 405 (outspeeds CS 252 Heracross/Pinsir), DDMence
- 270 - 176 Electivire (95), 136 Jirachi (100)
- 269 - 252 Heracross, Pinsir (85)
- 265 - +nature/252 Honchkrow (71)
- 265 - 252 Magmortar (83)
- 264 - One DD hits 396 (outspeeds +nature/252 base 130s)
- 262 - +nature/252 Breloom, Butterfree, Metagross (70)
- 261 - 252 Gyarados (81)
- 259 - 252 Dragonite, Medicham, Togekiss, Mamoswine (80)
- 253 - 252 Heatran (77)
- 245 - 36 Celebi, Zapdos, Jirachi (100)
- 244 - One Stage hits 366 (outspeeds +nature/252 base 115s, and 252 base 130s)
- 244 - 192 Dragonite, Gallade (80)
- 243 - +nature/252 Tyranitar (61)
- 241 - 252 Honchkrow (71)
- 240 -+nature/252 Abomasnow (60)
- 239 - 252 Breloom, Metagross (70)
- 236 - +nature/252 Rampardos (58)
- 236 - no-speed Zapdos, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin, Miltank (100)
- 226 - no-speed Gliscor, Leafeon, Uxie (95)
- 223 - One Stage hits 334 (outspeeds all base 100s, Garchomp, and 252-speed base 115s), BulkyGyara
- 222 - 128 Heatran (77)
- 221 - 252 Tyranitar (61)
- 216 - no-speed Moltres (90)
- 215 - 252 Rampardos (58)
- 207 - +nature/252 Marowak (45)
- 207 - 196 Tyranitar (61)
- 206 - no-speed Cresselia, Suicune (85)
- 203 - 148 Scizor (65)
- 202 - Two Stages hits 404 speed (outspeeds CS Heracross/Pinsir)
- 198 - no-speed Milotic (81)
- 198 - Two Stages hits 396 speed (outspeeds +nature/252 base 130s)
- 196 - no-speed Mamoswine, Venasaur, Togekiss (80)
- 190 - no-speed Heatran (77)
- 189 - 252 Marowak (45)
- 181 - +nature/252 Wobbuffet (33)
- 178 - 128 Machamp (55)
- 177 - 84 Magnezone (60)
- 176 - no-speed Skarmory, Breloom, Metagross (70)
- 166 - no-speed Vaporeon, Umbreon, Scizor (65)
- 165 - 252 Wobbuffet (33)
- 157 - -nature/76 Abomasnow
- 156 - no-speed Swampert, Porygon2, Magnezone, Weezing (60)
- 152 - no-speed Rampardos (58)
- 147 - TyraniBoah
- 146 - no-speed Blissey (55)
- 140 - -nature/31IV Mixpert, Weezing (60)
- 136 - no-speed Tangrowth, Lickilicky, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Donphan (50)
- 126 - no-speed Dusknoir, Marowak (45)
- 116 - no-speed Rhyperior (40)
- 106 - no-speed Spiritomb (35)
- 102 - no-speed Bronzong, Wobbuffet (33)
- 98 - no-speed Bidoof (31)
- 96 - no-speed Snorlax, Slowbro, Steelix (30)
- 76 - -nature/0IV Forretress
- 63 - -nature/0IV Bronzong
+nature/252: A pokemon with a beneficial speed nature, and 252 EVs in Speed.
252: A pokemon with a neutral speed nature, and 252 EVs in Speed.
+nature/[number]: A pokemon with a beneficial speed nature, and a certain amount of EVs in Speed.
[number]: A pokemon with a neutral speed nature, and a certain amount of EVs in Speed.
-nature/[number]: A pokemon with a hindering speed nature, and a certain amount of EVs in Speed.
CS: A pokemon holding a Choice Scarf.
One Stage: A pokemon before or after one speed boost.
Two Stages: A pokemon before or after two speed boosts. Remember two speed boosts is equal to one use of Rock Polish/Agility.
([number]): A pokemon with a certain base speed.
no-speed: The pokemon does not have a beneficial speed nature, or any speed EVs.
-nature/31IV: The pokemon has a nature that reduces its speed, but has 31 IVs in speed.
-nature/0IV: The pokemon has a nature that reduces its speed, and also has 0 IVs in speed.
How to use this list: Find the poke you’re building, and see how high on the list it can hit (searching on the page helps). Then, see how far you can go down the list without losing to someone you want to outspeed.
For example: Jolly (+Speed, -Sp.Atk) Garchomp with 252 EVs can hit 333 speed. But the next highest group is at 329 speed (neutral-nature Azelf/Starmie). So Jolly Garchomp can safely run 330 speed (240 EVs) and never lose any extra matchups.
Serebii’s D/P Stat Calculator lets you figure out how many EVs you’ll need to hit a certain speed. It’s also useful if you have a pokemon with a less than 31 IV in speed, or if your specific pokemon isn’t listed. However, keep in mind: if your pokemon has less than a 31 IV in speed, you will never be able to hit a +nature/252 speed listed for your poke!
One Speed Boost: you can find a target speed you’d like to hit after one speed boost, and then multiply that target speed by 2/3. Rounding up the result will give your desired starting speed. Add one if the result does not need to be rounded.
So if you wanted to hit 404 speed after one Dragon Dance (outspeed CS 252 Heracross), type this into your calculator:
404 * 2 / 3
to get 269.33 -> which is 270 speed.
Rock Polish/Agility/Swift Swim: you can choose a target speed after one use (or in the rain), and then divide in half. Rounding up the result will give your desired starting speed. Add one if the result does not need to be rounded.
So if you wanted to hit 419 speed after one use (outspeed CS 252 Moltres, Lucario, PorygonZ), half of that is 209.5 -> so you’d want 210 speed.
Things to be aware of:
Some pokemon that normally don't invest in speed will invest their extra 6 EVs into speed, so if you want to outspeed such a pokemon, you might want to outspeed it by 2 points.
Pokemon with Hidden Power fire and fighting automatically must have a 30 speed IV, and such pokemon usually drop down to one or two points above the next closest benchmark. Be careful to consider the 30 speed IV when adjusting your speed.
Notes:
All speeds are determined by pokemon with a 31 speed IV unless otherwise noted.
Pokemon that run speed EVs but not the maximum amount that are on this list are sets that get some decent attention in the OU metagame.
And we haven't seen them animated, interesting to see what they do with spiritomb.
OK
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