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drugs (we're gonna get hi, hi, hi)
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I don't smoke myself, but at least half my high school regularly smokes weed, and I'm in the next school district over from Birmingham (bloomfield hills), so I'm pretty sure it's the same. Pretty much any place with a ton of high schoolers should have some weed hanging around, maybe try the Palladium movie theater downtown and ask around?
And if you don't mind me asking, wth are you doing in michigan? There's almost nothing here lol.
okay enough of this clueless bath salts nonsense, you guys have no idea what you're talking about.
as for all this bath salts talk and how it makes you do crazy things, this is usually related to the face eating man who has been confirmed to NOT have been on bath salts, he just smoked pot. basically, this anti-bath salts talk is misinformed bullshit. for example, methadone is marketed as a bath salt, and it's used (legally) for heroin addiction treatment.
also, i've done bath salts before bath salts were a thing. i did a drug called methylone several times, and found out about a couple of weeks ago that it's a bath salt. guess what i didnt go crazy. the first time i did it, on good methylone (the other couple of times i suspect i did bunk), it was pretty intense coming up, felt extremely light and had some slight visual distortions, like spatial dimensions being more fluid and unusual. when i peaked i was by the lakeside, and marveled at its beauty--the peak was better than mdma. i sat by the lakeside with my gf and we listened to radiohead for two hours. after that i had to pee constantly, was in a sort of depressed/limbo state but i was nevertheless drugged out (things moved very slowly, for example) and when we came back home we just laid around for hours until we smoked some pot and passed out.
not really interested in doing methylone, a bath salt, again, but it wasnt a terrible experience overall and the first 2-3 hours were awesome, so i dont have any regrets about it at all. it's not some grimey fucked up buzz that makes you want to scratch out your insides unless maybe you have some preexisting mental health problems, in which case you'd probably do that kind of shit with or without bath salts. i think that's just propaganda.
as for all this bath salts talk and how it makes you do crazy things, this is usually related to the face eating man who has been confirmed to NOT have been on bath salts, he just smoked pot. basically, this anti-bath salts talk is misinformed bullshit. for example, methadone is marketed as a bath salt, and it's used (legally) for heroin addiction treatment.
also, i've done bath salts before bath salts were a thing. i did a drug called methylone several times, and found out about a couple of weeks ago that it's a bath salt. guess what i didnt go crazy. the first time i did it, on good methylone (the other couple of times i suspect i did bunk), it was pretty intense coming up, felt extremely light and had some slight visual distortions, like spatial dimensions being more fluid and unusual. when i peaked i was by the lakeside, and marveled at its beauty--the peak was better than mdma. i sat by the lakeside with my gf and we listened to radiohead for two hours. after that i had to pee constantly, was in a sort of depressed/limbo state but i was nevertheless drugged out (things moved very slowly, for example) and when we came back home we just laid around for hours until we smoked some pot and passed out.
not really interested in doing methylone, a bath salt, again, but it wasnt a terrible experience overall and the first 2-3 hours were awesome, so i dont have any regrets about it at all. it's not some grimey fucked up buzz that makes you want to scratch out your insides unless maybe you have some preexisting mental health problems, in which case you'd probably do that kind of shit with or without bath salts. i think that's just propaganda.
no mention of the woman being high on bath salts in the article, just that she tried to eat a baby.
honestly, once you try bath salts you'll realize its just as ludicrous to claim it causes you to eat people as it is to claim that you'll blow your head off with a shotgun because you're high on "reefer"
they have been highlighted since someone said (incorrectly) that maybe some dude ate somebody's face while on them possibly, which was like, what, 2-4 months ago tops?
you'd probably see them in headshops etc and be like "yeah, this seems like a good idea" if you're the kind of dumb high school stoner kid who still gets a rush from being in a head shop. Alternatively, you're a supply-constrained individual who likes drugs.
You've never heard anyone say anything good about them because:
they have historically been little more than a footnote in everybody's mind: shitty alternatives to speed etc. sold in head shops and sketchy convenience stores
what did get them some attention is a remarkably over-blown news story blaming them for murder
there's not much good to say about them, because it's not hard to find Adderall/cocaine/rolls whatever if you're looking in the right places or just generally looking.
eagerly awaiting the point in time when everybody gets over this "bath salts" thing and generally stops thinking they're Alexander Shulgin or something
there's such a great variety of other, well-researched, happy good drugs that i don't know why anyone would want to research chemicals (maybe some of the 2-cs because they have been around for awhile)
i didn't smoke when i got to college and i wasn't looking and it took me maybe 4 days to be in the same room as a vaporizer? pot in college is not a challenge to find at all and don't worry about it
i didn't smoke when i got to college and i wasn't looking and it took me maybe 4 days to be in the same room as a vaporizer? pot in college is not a challenge to find at all and don't worry about it
lol have you even tried bath salts? shitty alternative to speed? mind you my personal experience was slightly underwhelming and there are a family of drugs considered to be bath salts, some of which i havent tried, but bath salts are nothing like speed or prescription uppers like ritalin/adderall... the closest drug in terms of subjective experience would have to be mdma, just shorter rolls with very slightly more visual distortions and dissociative effects and a more pronounced comedown. i mean everyone has unique experiences but nobody i know thought it was like speed, which is basically just being up, with varying levels of euphoria depending on the drug/cut.
where do you people get these things damn it
you mean like a little brown bottle of liquid (100ish hits), or is vial some kind of drug hippie code word or something
either way i'm jelly
I have taken shrooms once and it was the coolest experience of my life.
The standard recommendations are:
- A controlled setting (your house, a friend's house, somewhere you're familiar). Somewhere you can go back to and chill out, ideally with some neat trip toys and comfortable couches.
- A good state of mind (pre-trip anxiety is one thing, but you probably shouldn't have any responsibilities/anxieties for a day or more afteer you plan on tripping)
- A trip sitter (especially on the first time). Someone who can calm you down if you freak out, knows how to handle such a situation, and is willing and able to move you around if you so desire.
- A tripping buddy. Having someone there who's on the same wavelength as you (a metaphor that takes a really interesting meaning on mushrooms, I find) is pretty cool, and talking to them about how they feel is a pretty good way to keep yourself in check.
Smoking weed was, for me, the impetus to my trip: I felt nothing until I took a few bong rips. After that, I was fucking gone. That said, I dunno if I'd recommend it: most people seem to find it just makes things more intense, rather than calming you down as you might expect.
If at any point you feel a bit scared, or overwhelmed (hint: you probably won't) just remind yourself: It's just a drug, and it'll be over before you know it.
tl;dr: "set and setting." Good mindset, familiar setting, and you should be good. Good luck, and have fun.
Flounder would be very correct.
At the above, did you even read the article?
So basically, if you abuse cannabis while you are young (read: smoking it multiple times a week, not just occaisionally with friends or whatever) then it will have adverse affects. Congratulations, the same shit goes for alcohol, tobacco, and even fucking food. Most importantly, this is one study of realistically less than 1000 people. Taking that as proof is laughable amongst a scientfic community. And reacting to headlines in the manner you just did is almost as funny.
At the above, did you even read the article?
So basically, if you abuse cannabis while you are young (read: smoking it multiple times a week, not just occaisionally with friends or whatever) then it will have adverse affects. Congratulations, the same shit goes for alcohol, tobacco, and even fucking food. Most importantly, this is one study of realistically less than 1000 people. Taking that as proof is laughable amongst a scientfic community. And reacting to headlines in the manner you just did is almost as funny.
I wouldn't start smoking before 18 anyways tbh because there is also kind of a social stigma and you will be branded an outcast by your peers which can negatively affect your development. I didn't start until I was 17 and I think my brain functions perfectly well, and I didn't smoke more than once a week or month until I was 18.
I would also appreciate it if you did not categorically call us "idiots." It's pretty dumb!
I would also appreciate it if you did not categorically call us "idiots." It's pretty dumb!
fuck off, don't be an idiot etc etc
besides, this thread is generally pro post-development drug use
edit: see, vadre echoes himself from posts past, and affirms my statement.
edit in response to several people
To be fair, the hype about bath salts is generally referring to mdpv(i think that's the acronym), not the wide variety of designer chemicals that get sold as bath salts (although I think methylone and mephedrone are close on the list of use frequency). Regardless I agree with the sentiment of "crazy people are crazy, drugs don't make them crazy". There was a boxer who did mushroom tea and fucking murdered someone while high. Does this mean nobody should ever do mushrooms again? Fuck no, that shit's the bomb and I love it. I've never wanted to hurt someone on mushrooms. Only love now.
Can't speak to acid, but totes mcgotes disagree for shrooms.
Rooms are my favorite drug by far, I've never had a bad experience with them, and I find after your first time and you know what to expect, it's not to hard to be on mushrooms and in public, or really in any situation. Do it in a park with some people you're confident won't be stupid, laugh and cry and have fun :>
Nature is very cool on mushrooms and definitely worth experiencing, I wouldn't recommend too much physical activity though, particularly cardio (walking up hills/trails). I've done mushrooms several times, and every time I find my body feeling more tired and heavy, like I've been carrying around wrist and ankle weights all day. Not that running around isn't fun, but it can get exhausting.
Parks are nice places to do them. We're talking big parks though, I'm not sure if you live in a big enough city in rado for their to be something like what I'm talking about. Like central park in new york is the kind of size I've done it in. Could be fun on your first trip, if you're at all nervous about it, then don't do it in a city park.
I'd personally recommend a house for your first time. My first time was this fucking baller as hell house out in the suburbs, with a big pool and hot tub and all that white people stuff, and it was very very fun. Admittedly I didn't do anything except lie down on the stones by the pool and vomit once or twice, but it was still an amazing experience because I felt completely safe.
As for mental state, as I said I've had nothing but good experiences on mushrooms, and I've done it in a bunch of different headspaces. One time I was torn up about a girl and feeling awful, did shrooms, realized she was a hoe, and felt amazing for the next eight hours. Another time I was really drunk and passed out when a friend wakes me up and tells me to drink this smoothy and watch pulpfiction with him. About a quarter of the way through the movie he tells me about the mushrooms in the smoothy, and I realized that I felt amazing, and thanked him for dosing me. Other times I've just wrapped myself in a blanket and cuddled with fellow mushroom goers. That being said, one of my friends just can't do mushrooms. He's going through a lot of stress right now (I have absolutely none by comparison), and every time he's done shrooms his muscles just get super tensed up and he get's really quiet and irate.
tealdear for this paragraph: mushrooms are awesome, I think it's hard to have a bad trip on them, I'm a very happy person though, and I know people have had bad experiences with them, so take my personal feelings with a grain of salt.
Err also, I hope this goes without saying but, don't fucking drive cars on shrooms (this isn't directed at anybody in particular). I've driven under the influence weed, alc, k, meth, and shrooms; alcohol and mushrooms are the only drugs I don't feel at all comfortable operating a vehicle while doing.
while the study's conclusion is perfectly valid and implies causation to some extent, it's important to note that the study demonstrated *no* effect on adults who persistently used cannabis.
don't smoke until you're in college kids. the legal smoking age should be 18 or 21
flounder's right
don't smoke until you're in college kids. the legal smoking age should be 18 or 21
flounder's right
<~v> tobi
<~v> is rikudo sage
<~v> i dont wanna argue tho
<~v> lol
<~v> i am on a LOT of lsd
<~v> and i vaped a bowl too
<%Lovestoned> lol
<%Lovestoned> dont die
<%Lovestoned> i still have to do some sort of drug with you
<~v> lol
<~v> im not gonna die
<~v> from lsd
<~v> altho
<~v> i dont think i jave ever done
<~v> this much
<~v> before
<~v> man
<~v> you know
<~v> every time i do lsd
<~v> i listen to sgt pepper
<~v> the album
<%Lovestoned> lol
<~v> i do
<~v> mr kite
<~v> is about to end
<~v> For the Benefit of Mister Kite!
<%Lovestoned> v dont make me derail the naruto thread and turn it into "drug chats with Jesus and V"
<%Lovestoned> i'll do it man
<%Lovestoned> dont test me
<~v> lol
<~v> o man
<~v> my vision id fucked
<~v> yeah
<~v> nina drop acid with me
<~v> some time~
<%Lovestoned> its on my list and will happen if you dont die like i said
<%Lovestoned> i aim to check everything off my list before i die
<%Lovestoned> do you realize that i am posting our chat in the naruto thread?
<~v> my keyboard is swimming
<~v> o
<~v> lol
<~v> hahahahaa
This is where it starts to get good:
<~v> i am starting to trip
<~v> really hard
<%Lovestoned> shit v i have a song for you
<%Lovestoned> listen to this whiles you trip hard
<%Lovestoned> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpwXBkq15XQ
<%Lovestoned> that song
<%Xaqwais> JUST GO MY WAY
<%Xaqwais> oh god
<%Xaqwais> now its stuck in my head
<%Lovestoned> haha
<%Lovestoned> oh God, mine too
<%Lovestoned> also i am going to stop posting the chat
<~v> lol
<~v> why
<%Lovestoned> xaqwais can you help me convince v that obito/tobi is not the sage of the 6 paths
<%Lovestoned> this is just rediculous
<%Xaqwais> at least it wouldn't be as stupid as obito-tobi
<~v> hes rikudo sage
<%Lovestoned> haha
<~v> my explanation
<~v> makes sense
<~v> but im not arguing
<~v> atm
<%Lovestoned> why
<%Lovestoned> v
<%Lovestoned> convince me
<~v> i dont wanna
<~v> lol
<~v> you cannot conceive
<%Lovestoned> lol
<~v> of the cosmic power coursing through my veins
<%Lovestoned> you dont know that
<%Lovestoned> i think my harry potter theory makes the most sense
<%Lovestoned> xaqwais have you seen it? i recently posted it in the naruto thread
<%Xaqwais> yeah haha
<%Lovestoned> i mean, it totally makes sense
<%Lovestoned> v is just too high
<%Lovestoned> and doesnt believe in magic
<%Lovestoned> he never got his letter
<~v> i was so
<~v> fuckin disappointed
<~v> when my hogwartz letter
<~v> did not come
<%Lovestoned> haha
<~v> gdi
<~v> i wanted to he
<~v> be
<~v> good at transfiguration
<~v> that was the coolest magic
* zebrafk is now known as zeb
<%Xaqwais> I wanted a broomstick man
<%Xaqwais> thats all
<%Xaqwais> quidditch would be cool too
<~v> lol
<~v> i did not want broomsticks
<~v> apparation
<~v> perfect
<%Xaqwais> okay yeah that is prolly the best nevermind
<~v> plus
<~v> voldemort's dudes can just straight fly
<%Lovestoned> i just wanted to fucking kick umbridge's ass
<%Lovestoned> more like umBITCH
<%Lovestoned> ok NOW i'm going to stop posting the chat in the naruto thread
<~v> i moved yr post
<~v> to the drugs thread
<%Lovestoned> haha
<%Lovestoned> wow v
<%Lovestoned> THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANTED MY FIRST POST EVER IN THE DRUGGIES THREAD TO BE WHY DID YOU MOVE MY POST
<~v> is rikudo sage
<~v> i dont wanna argue tho
<~v> lol
<~v> i am on a LOT of lsd
<~v> and i vaped a bowl too
<%Lovestoned> lol
<%Lovestoned> dont die
<%Lovestoned> i still have to do some sort of drug with you
<~v> lol
<~v> im not gonna die
<~v> from lsd
<~v> altho
<~v> i dont think i jave ever done
<~v> this much
<~v> before
<~v> man
<~v> you know
<~v> every time i do lsd
<~v> i listen to sgt pepper
<~v> the album
<%Lovestoned> lol
<~v> i do
<~v> mr kite
<~v> is about to end
<~v> For the Benefit of Mister Kite!
<%Lovestoned> v dont make me derail the naruto thread and turn it into "drug chats with Jesus and V"
<%Lovestoned> i'll do it man
<%Lovestoned> dont test me
<~v> lol
<~v> o man
<~v> my vision id fucked
<~v> yeah
<~v> nina drop acid with me
<~v> some time~
<%Lovestoned> its on my list and will happen if you dont die like i said
<%Lovestoned> i aim to check everything off my list before i die
<%Lovestoned> do you realize that i am posting our chat in the naruto thread?
<~v> my keyboard is swimming
<~v> o
<~v> lol
<~v> hahahahaa
This is where it starts to get good:
<~v> i am starting to trip
<~v> really hard
<%Lovestoned> shit v i have a song for you
<%Lovestoned> listen to this whiles you trip hard
<%Lovestoned> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpwXBkq15XQ
<%Lovestoned> that song
<%Xaqwais> JUST GO MY WAY
<%Xaqwais> oh god
<%Xaqwais> now its stuck in my head
<%Lovestoned> haha
<%Lovestoned> oh God, mine too
<%Lovestoned> also i am going to stop posting the chat
<~v> lol
<~v> why
<%Lovestoned> xaqwais can you help me convince v that obito/tobi is not the sage of the 6 paths
<%Lovestoned> this is just rediculous
<%Xaqwais> at least it wouldn't be as stupid as obito-tobi
<~v> hes rikudo sage
<%Lovestoned> haha
<~v> my explanation
<~v> makes sense
<~v> but im not arguing
<~v> atm
<%Lovestoned> why
<%Lovestoned> v
<%Lovestoned> convince me
<~v> i dont wanna
<~v> lol
<~v> you cannot conceive
<%Lovestoned> lol
<~v> of the cosmic power coursing through my veins
<%Lovestoned> you dont know that
<%Lovestoned> i think my harry potter theory makes the most sense
<%Lovestoned> xaqwais have you seen it? i recently posted it in the naruto thread
<%Xaqwais> yeah haha
<%Lovestoned> i mean, it totally makes sense
<%Lovestoned> v is just too high
<%Lovestoned> and doesnt believe in magic
<%Lovestoned> he never got his letter
<~v> i was so
<~v> fuckin disappointed
<~v> when my hogwartz letter
<~v> did not come
<%Lovestoned> haha
<~v> gdi
<~v> i wanted to he
<~v> be
<~v> good at transfiguration
<~v> that was the coolest magic
* zebrafk is now known as zeb
<%Xaqwais> I wanted a broomstick man
<%Xaqwais> thats all
<%Xaqwais> quidditch would be cool too
<~v> lol
<~v> i did not want broomsticks
<~v> apparation
<~v> perfect
<%Xaqwais> okay yeah that is prolly the best nevermind
<~v> plus
<~v> voldemort's dudes can just straight fly
<%Lovestoned> i just wanted to fucking kick umbridge's ass
<%Lovestoned> more like umBITCH
<%Lovestoned> ok NOW i'm going to stop posting the chat in the naruto thread
<~v> i moved yr post
<~v> to the drugs thread
<%Lovestoned> haha
<%Lovestoned> wow v
<%Lovestoned> THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANTED MY FIRST POST EVER IN THE DRUGGIES THREAD TO BE WHY DID YOU MOVE MY POST