i did bt its only possible to do the iv rng and the nature gender is luck.....Has anyone successfully RNG'ed the starter for BW2? Can you share your tips? I have already RNG'ed my TID/SID so all that's left is to get the Pokemon...
So far I'm going on 10 attempts, and yes, it takes hours just to get a spread. I'm glad I'm not the only one agonizing over this.I had the same struggle and the same hours of finding a spread. Just keep using Adjacent Seeds to check what you're hitting. It's probably just Timer0 fluctuations.
How many times have you tried to hit it? If it's less than 30 you shouldn't complain just yet.
My question: For Chatot pitches, am I supposed to hear the pitch ON the target frame and know I'm ready to collect, or is the pitch one BEFORE the target frame the one I'm supposed to hear to know I'm done.
That sucks... Anyway if I ain't gonna get shiny then there is no point, lol...i did bt its only possible to do the iv rng and the nature gender is luck.....
when you hear a pitch you are currently on the corresponding pitch (pid)frame...so when you battle you get the next frame...so you should stop 1 frame before ur target frameI had the same struggle and the same hours of finding a spread. Just keep using Adjacent Seeds to check what you're hitting. It's probably just Timer0 fluctuations.
How many times have you tried to hit it? If it's less than 30 you shouldn't complain just yet.
My question: For Chatot pitches, am I supposed to hear the pitch ON the target frame and know I'm ready to collect, or is the pitch one BEFORE the target frame the one I'm supposed to hear to know I'm done.
Picking up from the daycare man counts as 1 frame advancement too right?when you hear a pitch you are currently on the corresponding pitch (pid)frame...so when you battle you get the next frame...so you should stop 1 frame before ur target frame
Good lord, looks like I'm in for pure hell. Any reason why this is so finnicky compared to the Keldeo Wondercard?Genesect guy: Just make sure you confirm what it is you're hitting, which is super easy with Wondercards via adjacent seeds.
It took me about 3 combined hours to find two spreads with different natures, but I did RNG both.
The first took me a ridiculous amount of tries, between 20 and 30 I would say.
The second took me only 2.
Right now I'm on god knows what # Nidoran attempt, I am hitting the frames ONE BELOW AND ONE ABOVE my target! DAMN YOU CPUs! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
Ugh, that really knocked the drive out of me. BTW, What IV spread did you search for (and ultimately have success with)?Cefiro said:BW2 has apparently, what, 12 Timer0s that it is capable of shifting between? Way more than BW1. And while it tends to go back and forth between only 2 (at least it did with me), it does occasionally stray farther. Mix that with the occasional mistiming at the title screen, or chatot screw-ups if you have a lot and that's a lot of work.
Bad idea. NPC advancements change per save and per seed, so the only way that'll work is pure dumb luck. You're better off sticking to the same seed and finding what you hit with one Chatot, then adjusting accordingly.Protip for noobs: When breeding, if you don't want to deal with advancement crap, pick up an egg 2 or 3 times, find out how many advancements from initial you are getting from just mashing A upon entering the game. Then just search for a seed with that many advancements, load the game at that time and mash A. Took me 3 tries (and one of those my seed changed).
I said this in the post above yours: NPC advancements change per save and per seed, not to mention how long you take on the overworld when they can move. There is no set number above 0, for any of it (I've personally done seeds/saves for BW1 breeding with NPC frame advances of 2-3, 0, 8, and even higher, so no, not even that).Im going to rng Virizion, Cobalion and Terrakion because my last game ones were not so good. The issue is they are not alone anymore. I was just wondering if anyone can tell me in advance how much the npcs move the pidrng i believe its called. I know in Black and White the day care advanced by around six. Just tell me if you know already. Otherwise I guess Ill have to test it.
That's why you calibrate per save and per seed once to three times ahead of time to know the general frame advancements of the NPCs. I just bred another Pokemon, took me 20 minutes. Took me over 7 goddamn hours of not getting my first one with the other method - now THAT felt like sheer dumb luck. This one has been working out, however. I can usually tell with Chatot pitches when I missed my seed. But telling when I'm 1 frame prior to it, hell, I failed that as badly as one could.Bad idea. NPC advancements change per save and per seed, so the only way that'll work is pure dumb luck
Which doesn't matter as soon as you move on to a new one, since you'll have to do it over again, anyway.That's why you calibrate per save and per seed once to three times ahead of time to know the general frame advancements of the NPCs.
No, the IVs are set in stone (all 30, though). You can come back for it later.Is N's Zorua RNG-able? And can you come back and pick it up at any time?
That's when you use distinguishable sequences close to your target, so you know where you are, and count from there. If your target is too low, you can count right away and adjust for NPC movement if you need to try again, since in that case it won't take as long to retry.I can usually tell with Chatot pitches when I missed my seed. But telling when I'm 1 frame prior to it, hell, I failed that as badly as one could.
Better to use information on one seed for a different seed, as opposed to using it on the same seed. What am I missing?I'm aware my method is luck based. However, to others struggling for literally hours on a single Poke, I would argue it works better.
Just that it took me 7 hours to get nothing the proper way, and 35 minutes to get 2 things my half-assed luck way (no sarcasm or exaggeration, this pretty much is an accurate description of what happened).What am I missing?
i barely use chatot pitches when rnging eggs...but i find this is faster than checking pitches for long time....Picking up from the daycare man counts as 1 frame advancement too right?
Well damn, my most recent attempt I heard the low low low high and then picked it up, and did indeed miss my mark by one frame.
Geez, the three low low low in a row right before my frame does not help me much at all. But I'm so close that I don't want to switch seeds.
NIDOKING IMMA COMING!
The worst part is that right when I think I am getting used to the pitches my Timero fluctuates and I loose the groove.
And the guy who asked about the gender for the king n queen, when you look at the main menu after generating your seed on it, there is a box that states what gender you got (ignore the actual gender boxes, they don't matter).
if you hit the same seed they will move the same way for that seed.
so say you saved when an npc is facing right and when you hit your seed say you saw him move upward,and when you hit that seed again he will move upward again.
so the npc movement is definite pattern for a particular seed on a particular save(so it depend on when you save too.)
first of all as said above,
there are 2 types of frames for a single seed
IV frame-determines ivs
and the pid frame-determines nature ,shinyness and ability
when rnging an egg.your starting iv frame is 8.
and your starting pid frame is between 40-60ish
npcs only advance pid frame.so your ivs are safe
in the main rng reporter window
chose breeding (BW)
and if your pokemon is holding everstone ,choose which nature is the holder
enter your seed into the seed (hex) box
then click calculate initial pidrng frame
then you'll get a value of 40-60 in the starting frame box.
hit generate
say you got 47 for your starting frame.,that means if there are no npcs you will get the nature ,ability corresponding to frame number 47.
but since there are npc ,that frame will shift up by about 2-7ish frames.
so what you need to do is find that shifted starting frame.
hit the seed and mash X when the season screen displays to get to the menu ,then quit and mash A as fast as you can to get your egg.now hatch it and match the nature gender and ability you got with the frames of the results you generated(for example if my initial frame is 47 ,ill match them 47 upwards).then if you get a match say frame 49,then deduct that from your target frame(say 57).and thats the number of advances you should do by chatots(57-49=8 chatot flips).then rehit your seed ,do the advances and get the egg
to verify whether you hit your seed.after getting the egg go to a place where you can catch a high level pokemon like victory road or something(your choice)then catch a pokemon with sweet scent,check its ivs and match them with the IV frames of your seed,
in the range of 14-25ish