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Durant:

Originally Posted by Fat Molk

Durant:No retest

Im kinda on the fence about retesting Durant tbh, Durant was one of the most debated suspects during its time due to its lack of coverage and the fact that it DID have a few checks, but i feel that its just too overpowering for the metagame now. The old checks to durant that were mentioned were Magneton, Steelix, Aggron, Gligar, Cofagrigus, Poliwrath, Qwilfish, and Normal Rotom. Out of these, two of them are no longer RU, 3 of them get OHKOed by superpower, and one struggled to damage durant in return, this leaves Poliwrath and Normal Rotom. Normal Rotom can be beaten if you predict correctly and hustle doesnt fuck you over, and Poliwrath lacks reliable recovery. Poliwrath also takes about 70% from +1 hustle LO superpower. Combine the fact that durant is still a very fast pokemon with the equivalent of base 188 attack and the fact that a lot of its previous checks just get wrecked now, as well as the fact that it resists quite a few priority moves, and has the bulk to take the ones it doesnt, and you have a monster on your hands. Ive heard people also say that hone claws durant has 4mss, being walled by something no matter what it does, but this is untrue. Hone Claws/Iron Head/X-scissor/Superpower hits everything durant needs to hit, and before you say anything about Moltres...

+1 Life Orb boosted Hustle Iron Head vs 0/0 Moltres 712 Atk vs 216 Def & 321 HP (80 Base Power): 183 - 216 (57.01% - 67.29%) (Guarenteed OHKO after stealth rock).

....yeah.

On the other hand, Durant still does have a few flaws that might just make it retestable, namely its shitty as fuck special defense stat, Hustle giving all of its moves the accuracy of stone miss, and the fact that there are pokemon that are still faster than it, but overall i think Durant is still going to be pretty overpowering.

Originally Posted by Fat Texas Cloverleaf

Retest Durant

Durant is somewhat similar to Cresselia, but on the opposite end of the tape. When Durant left the meta it had few counters ad couls easily break through teams. Even then it was a controversial ban. With the release of BW2 Durant gained Superpower, leaving it with ways to deal with each of its counters, through either Iron Head, Superpower, Rock Slide or Thunder Fang (X-Scissor being mandatory). However, Durant cannot run all of these moves, and must pick two out of four coverage moves, lest it go without a set up move to remove its accuracy issues. From my own experience using Durant in the Shaking Up RU Tournament I found Durant to be very underwhelming. ITs bulk is subpar, and its Speed, while very god, is vulnerable to revenge killing making it difficult for Durant to find an opportunity to set up. While I do believe that Durant will remain to be broken with the addition of its new move, I also feel that alongside Cress it could drop into a solid equilibrium in RU, and should be retested to, if nothing else, validate the results of the Round 5 Suspect Test.

Originally Posted by Fat DittoCrow

Retest Cresselia
Retest Durant

Both Pokemon have new threats to worry about that they did not have back when they were banned. Escavalier and the increase in Spiritomb and more offensive Pokemon pose a threat to Cresselia, while the new offensive metagame will limit Durant's opportunities to switch in. Durant and Cresselia deserve a chance to be brought back and tested, as they don't immediately seem to be broken like Venomoth would be.

Originally Posted by Fat ShakeItUp

Durant: Do Not Retest

This thing is way too strong and fast. It outruns a large part of the unboosted RU tier, and hits ridiculously hard. It can even boost its attacks with Hone Claws, which also makes up for Hustle in the process. Steelix is one of the few Pokemon that can wall it, but it doesn't have recovery, making it less reliable. Between X-Scissor, Iron Head, and Rock Slide , Durant can easily tear apart almost all of the tier, and in tandem with its solid Speed stat, makes it a very potent attacker that it is too strong for RU.

Originally Posted by Fat august

durant

In a fast paced offensive metagame, Durant fits in quite nicely. Durant is checked by some common balanced pokemon like Steelix and Poliwrath, and often struggles with accuracy prior to a boost from Hone Claws (which may be hard to obtain in a fast paced metagame with Durant being rather frail). Should Cress be unbanned, Durant is also a nice way to offset Cresselia's unbanning, as Durant functions as a decent Cress check, 2HKOing and only fearing Thunder Wave and Hidden Power [Fire]. Durant suffers from 4 moveslot syndrome as well, and cannot defeat even common offensive pokemon without running 4 attacks with no Hone Claws (ie: loses to Moltres without Rock Slide). I think Durant would be a nice addition to RU. Unban!!

Originally Posted by Fat SilentVerse

Durant - Retest

Durant is a bit of an interesting case. While it has only gotten better with the addition of Superpower, when Durant was banned, it was mostly banned because of theorymon, and many people have expressed a regret that Durant was banned. Even with Superpower, Durant still suffers from a lot of the same issues that it had back before it was banned; an awful special defense stat making it incredibly prone to revenge killing, Stone Edge-esque accuracy on all of its moves, and few opportunities to really switch in without taking a huge amount of damage. And, though Superpower does allow Durant to smash through its old counters in Steelix and Magneton, this isn't much different than, say, Moltres, who has only two real "counters" in Lanturn and Regirock now that it has Hurricane, and those two Pokemon are 3HKOed by Hidden Power Grass. While Durant may prove to be overpowering with Superpower, we will not know until we try it out again; therefore, I support giving Durant a retest.

Originally Posted by Fat Omicron

Durant: Retest

I am also all for retesting Durant, as it no longer is the insane threat it used to be with things like Nidoqueen in the tier, which completely walls Durant other than Iron Head, as well as Steelix and Magneton which handle Durant quite well other than Superpower. Durant also destroys Cresselia, so it would be a good balance to retest them both at the same time.

With a close 5-2 vote to retest, the Senate has decided that Durant will be given a retest!

Thanks everyone for getting your votes in so promptly! A new np thread will be up shortly.