[Overview]
<p>Moltres was always a bad Pokemon to use in OU. Losing 50% of its health from Stealth Rock, having a mediocre 90 base Speed, being weak to Electric-, Rock-, and Water-type moves, and being outclassed by the Fire-types of OU were the main reasons that Moltres never saw any real use. However, Moltres got Hurricane in BW2 which gave, giving it a reason to be used in OU. While it faces stiff competition with the tier's prime Hurricane user, Tornadus-T, itMoltres has its own unique traits to distinguish it. Thoese traits are a much stronger Hurricane,; the ability to get pastovercome Jirachi, Bronzong, and Metagross, and; OHKOing Ferrothorn in rain, unlike Tornadus-T,; and lastly, the ability to easily switch into many Pokemon that sun teams carry, and from there punch holes with a stupidly strong Fire Blast. Even if those traits are not enough for Moltres to escape from the shadow of Tornadus-T and its other flaws, Moltres and Tornadus-T form a destructive Hurricane combo when combined together, where Moltres weakens the Pokemon that prevent Tornadus-T from cleaning up late game. So, while MoltresIn short, despite needsing a ton of support to work, it has a specific nicheMoltres has a definite niche in OU: the ability to work as a wallbreaking partner for Tornadus-T, which makes it viable in OU.</p>
[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Hidden Power Fighting / Hidden Power Ground
move 4: U-turn / Roost
item: Choice Specs / Sharp Beak
nature: Modest / Timid
evs: 24 HP / 252 SpA / 44 SpD / 188 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Moltres hasis tied with Tornadus-Incarnate for the most powerful Hurricane in OU together with Tornadus, and with Choice Specs attached, its power is phenomenal. To give you an example of itMoltres's power, offensive Heatran is always 2HKOed by Hurricane after just Stealth Rock. In addition, itMoltres's typing allows it to check some dangerous offensive threats, such as Sheer Force Landorus, Lucario, and Volcarona, that no other Hurricane user in OU can do. As with any Hurricane user, Moltres needs Drizzle support from Politoed to function properly. ButHowever, unlike most Hurricane users, Moltres has the ability to perform admirably under sun as nothing except Heatran can take its Fire Blast, and; to make matters worse for opposing sun teams, Moltres gets many switch-in opportunities against common PokePokemon commonly found in sun teams such as Ninetales, Heatran, Volcarona, Xatu, and Victreebelenusaur. Hurricane is the move Moltres should be using most of the times and for good reason, as it 2HKOes every Pokemon that doesn't resist it and isn't Blissey or Chanseynot named Blissey or Chansey that doesn't resist it. Fire Blast 2HKOeswill at worst 2HKO every Steel-type under rain that can tank Hurricane, such as Jirachi, Bronzong, and Metagross, and OHKOes Ferrothorn, which is a boon for many rain teams, as many of themrain teams lack a way to quickly dispose of it. IFire Blast is also Moltres's main weapon against sun teams, as Moltres can find many switch-in opportunities against sun teams and proceed to blast themfire off, serving as a useful asset to have against themun boosted STAB Fire Blasts, pulling its weight even in sun. Hidden Power Fighting is used to 2HKO any Tyranitar and Heatran; more specificallyfurthermore, offensive Heatran and Choice Scarf Tyranitar are always OHKOed after Stealth Rock. Hidden Power Ground OHKOes any Heatran, while 2HKOing any choiced Tyranitar, but fails to do any significant damage to specially defensive variants of the latter. U-turn allows Moltres to scout for its counters, Chansey, Blissey, and Tyranitar, while also doing a fair bit of damage to Tyranitar. Roost gives Moltres the ability to heal off Stealth Rock damage and survive longer.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Modest is the primary nature because the extra power gives Moltres certain OHKOs and 2HKOs. Specifically:</p>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>- Hurricane vs 4 SpD Heatran: 45.82 - 54.17%, sure 2HKO after Stealth Rock</li>
<li>- Hurricane vs 184 HP Rotom-W: 51.56 - 60.62%, 94.14% chance to 2HKO</li>
<li>- Hurricane vs +2 SpD 0 HP Volcarona: 97.1 - 114.46%, 81.25% chance to OHKO</li>
<li>- Hurricane vs 4 SpD Dragonite: 96.9 - 114.24%</li>
<li>- Hurricane vs 56 HP Gyarados: 90.72 - 107.24%</li>
<li>- Hurricane vs 4 HP Garchomp: 100 - 118.15%</li>
<li>- Hurricane vs 252 HP Skarmory: 62.87 - 73.95%</li>
<li>- Fire Blast (rain) vs 252 / 224+ Jirachi: 57.92 - 68.31%</li>
<p>Choice Specs is the main item because of the huge power it provides, and because Moltres should be using Hurricane most of the times anyway. However, Sharp Beak is an option if one prefers the freedom to change moves and the ability to use Roost, which comeis very handy in some situations. The Speed EVs enable Moltres to outspeed Timid Politoed and Jolly Breloom, both of which are OHKOed by Hurricane. With 44 EVs in Special Defense, Choice Scarf Genesect gets an Attack boost against Moltres and cannot OHKO with Thunderbolt, while Moltres OHKOes back with either STAB move. When using Hidden Power Ground with a Modest nature, running max Speed is an option to outrun Timid 252 Speed Heatran and Smeargle. By using a Timid nature, Moltres has the advantage of outspeeding max Speed Jolly Mamoswine, Timid Rotom-W, Modest Kyurem, neutral natured Kyurem-B, Adamant Haxorus, and Modest Hydreigon. With a Timid nature, Moltres should use this spread: 248 SpA / 44 SpD / 216 Spe. E, giving it enough Speed to outrun Modest Hydreigon, 44 SpD EVs for Genesect, and rest toplacing the rest of the EVs in Special Attack. Hidden Power Fighting is the superior third move because removing Tyranitar from the game is more vital to Moltres's success than removing Heatran.</p>
<p>Sleep Talk is a viable option as Moltres can easily switch into Breloom, Venusaur, and Amoonguss. Hidden Power Grass allows Moltres to OHKO offensive Rotom-W, 2HKO specially defensive Rotom-W, and 2HKO any choiced Tyranitar after Stealth Rock. Life Orb can be used over Sharp bBeak if you find that any move other than Hurricane lacks power, but the Life Orb recoil, the Stealth Rock damage, and any other damage that Moltres may receive will leave Moltres wanting to use Roost all the time, having little time to actually attack, which defiecontradicts the purpose of the set.<p>
<p>Politoed is mandatory as a teammate, obviously, to make Moltres's Hurricane 100% accurate. A way to get rid of Stealth Rock is also obligatory when using Moltres, which means using either Rapid Spin or Magic Bounce support. Starmie and Tentacruel are the rRapid sSpinners that work the best with Moltres and are the best spinners for rain teams too; Starmie is usually the option for more offensive teams, and can revenge kill some Pokemon that outspeed and OHKO Moltres, such as Terrakion, Thundurus-T, and Keldeo, while Tentacruel is the option for more balanced teams, and still deals with many Pokemon that trouble Moltres such as Keldeo, Terrakion, and Choice Scarf Politoed. Moltres in turnIn turn, Moltres can take Ground-, Bug-, and Grass-type attacks aimed at themStarmie and Tentacruel, and beat Pokemon that they hate facing, such as Celebi, Ferrothorn, and Amoonguss. As for Magic Bouncers, neither Espeon nor Xatu work particularly well with Moltres in rain teams, but they are both an option if one is using Moltres on an offensive VoltTurn team, the only way thatwhich is the only team archetype in which the Magic Bounce Pokemon will manage to keep Stealth Rock off the field for enoughany period of time. Tornadus-T is the best offensive partner for Moltres, and their combination of the two is the main reason to use Moltres in OU. Tornadus-T forms a dual Hurricane combo with Moltres, and together they break down Flying-type resists, and and, in general, can wear down each other's counters in general. Tornadus-T with Taunt is the best variant to use alongside Moltres, as it can beat Blissey, Chansey, Heatran, and Tyranitar, while Moltres weakens Rotom-W, Rotom-H, and Zapdos, as well as handlesing Jirachi, Bronzong, Scizor, Skarmory, and sun teams, and they. Additionally, both Tornadus-T and Moltres can both bring each other in safely in with U-turn. This allows Tornadus-T to easily clean whole teams late game.</p>
<p>There are also some more optional partners for Moltres. Dugtrio is of great help to Moltres, as Moltres can bring it in safely with U-turn, allowing it to trap and eliminate Heatran and Tyranitar, winning the weather war and allowin the case of the latter and giving Moltres an opening to wrecak havoc simultaneously in the latter's case. When using Dugtrio, Moltres also puts Choice Scarf Genesect in a checkmate position, as the only way that Genesect can KO Moltres is with Thunderbolt, and if it does that, it gets trapped and KOed by Dugtrio. If it doesn'Genesect fails to use Thunderbolt, Moltres can act as a great switch-in to Genesect, shielding your team from its other attacks. This fact makes Moltres a good lead against teams with Genesect teams, as most of themGenesect use Choice Scarf, and if they don't, they usually don'tGenesects that do not hold Choice Scarf don't typically lead. Terrakion, especially the Choice Band set, murders all of Molltres's checks and counters, making for a great teammate. Celebi has amazing defensive synergy with Moltres, checking Pokemon such as Keldeo, Terrakion, Thundurus-T, Calm Mind Substitute Jirachi, and Starmie, while Moltres can get many free switche-ins via Celebi's U-turn against the many Steel-, and Grass-types that Celebi attracts. Finally, specially defensive Jirachi can pass Wishes to Moltres with ease, as they have excellent defensive synergy, helping itMoltres with its longevity problem and can also takeing Rock- and Dragon-type attacks aimed at Moltres.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>A defensive set utilizing Substitute and Roost alongside Flamethrower and Hurricane or Flamethrower and Toxic is the most viable Moltres set not already listed. Thanks to Pressure, Moltres can easily PP stall moves from Pokemon that would otherwise hurt it badly by alternating between Substitute and Roost, such as Stone Edge from Tyranitar and Hydro Pump from Rotom-W and Choice Specs Politoed. The following spread should be used with this set: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe with a Timid nature. EThis spread gives Moltres enough Speed to outrun positive natured base 70s, such as Breloom and Politoed, and restplaces the rest of the EVs into HP and Special Defense because Moltres's typing is better suited to take special hits. However, this set can be walled and rendered useless by many common Pokemon such as Roar Heatran, Hippowdon, Calm Mind Jirachi or specially defensive Jirachi with Thunder, and Tentacruel, and is checked by many other Pokemon depending on the secondary move of choice Moltres chooses to run (Hurricane or Toxic). It is also hurt pretty badly by Stealth Rock, as with Stealth Rock up it can't wall any of the threats that it otherwise could and has to spend all of its time using Roost. Substitute can be used with Life Orb on the offensive set when running Roost, to take advantage of Pressure and stall out moves that could hurt Moltres, scout faster switch-ins, and ease prediction, but betweemn Substitute, Life Orb damagerecoil, and Stealth Rock damage, Moltres will rarely find time to attack or heal. Choice Scarf is an option on the offensive set so thatto enable Moltres canto act as a moderately powerful revenge killer, but it is outclassed by pretty much any other revenge killer in OU due to a huge Stealth Rock weakness and a mediocre Speed stat. Lastly, an Agility set is a viable option in sun teams, and can act as a decent cleaner late game, but faces a lot of competition from better sun sweepers such as Volcarona, Venusaur, and Victini, and thus is generally outclassed.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p> Chansey and Blissey are the only surefire counters to Moltres. Tyranitar and Heatran work too, but they both get hurt pretty badly by Hidden Power, and Heatran can't do any immediate damage back atto Moltres, except fromhaving to settle for Toxicing it or setting up Stealth Rock and phazing itMoltres with Roar. Rotom-W, Rotom-H, and Zadppdos and Jirachi in rain are all good checks, but are prone to getting worn down or, and lose if a Hurricane confusion occurs. Everything faster than Moltres that can take a hit is an okay check, namely Scarf Rotom-W, Thundurus-T, and Calm Mind Jirachi, as they can switch into Moltres once or twice and force it out. Finally, everthere are many offensive Pokemon that can revenge kill Moltres serves as a good revenge killer for Moltres, meaning that; Pokemon such as Keldeo, Latios, Starmie, and Terrakion will do the trick.</p>