GTS Cloning Trick

gorm · May 3rd, 2007, 10:47:31 PM

Edit: So people have kinda got this working can someone post a better way to do this than that gfaqs quote that's there now?

Please lock/tdc this if it's been verified and debunked/been found and is old news

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=35071623

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Leo

1. put something with anything attached into the GTS, make your offer ridiculous (Lv9- dialga).
2. Count the number of turns of the clock you see in the bottom-right corner it takes for your game to say "_____ will be put up for trade"
3. Take it back out. REMEMBER the exact turns and where it stopped.
4. Put it back in, and two movements before what it took last time for the pokemon to be transferred to GTS, shut it off.
5. Check the box where you chose the pokemon for trade. It should still be there, BUT there is also the clone which is 'still up for trade'
that clear?

bolt · May 3rd, 2007, 10:56:53 PM

Oh yeah I heard of that.

I heard it acually works. I'm not trying it until someone else does, because i'm not risking shit.

You go first Gormenghast.

Dagger · May 3rd, 2007, 10:57:44 PM

It'd be cool if it were real, but I'm not to keen on turning off the power when it is saving or whatnot. Nor do I want to accidentally corrupt my data.

gorm · May 3rd, 2007, 11:03:01 PM

What's been said is that the corrupt data happens anyways and all that happens is it loads the old save file, and either it has the clone, or doesn't.

This is stupid to even discuss before this is confirmed (and I believe there are safe ways to test it, known by Surgo among others) but it looks like another partial save error, except much more sketchy than emerald.

Surgo · May 3rd, 2007, 11:05:07 PM

This is actually fairly well-known, or at least something very similar to it that also abuses the GTS. You need to have exact timing, though, and it's very slow. Expect something like 1% of the efficiency of Emerald cloning, if that. I wouldn't even bother for that very reason.

Little Green Yoda · May 3rd, 2007, 11:11:46 PM

Sounds eerily similar to Colosseum cloning.

EDIT: From my experience with Colosseum, the timing seems random - I've managed success from 6 seconds to 8 seconds. Not sure if it'll be the same with the GTS trick though.

bolt · May 3rd, 2007, 11:12:51 PM

So we have tp exactly wait 8 full rotation of the loading clock? EXACTLY 8?

gorm · May 3rd, 2007, 11:15:44 PM

apparently 7.3~7.5~8. read the thread

it's sketchy. I'm pretty sure the devs made sure it wouldn't mess up your data, but the chance of cloning itself is eh.

MKDS_PoKE · May 3rd, 2007, 11:19:05 PM

Someone test it already, I'm not testing until someone else does :O But I'm betting it works

Dagger · May 3rd, 2007, 11:30:29 PM

I'm gonna try it...I'll edit with results...Wish me luck that I don't corrupt my game...>_>

bolt · May 3rd, 2007, 11:35:07 PM

Godspeed, Dagger. Godspeed.

Dagger · May 4th, 2007, 1:09:55 AM

DUDE I FUCKING DID IT. It is in fact possible. However, it is extremely hard to get the timing because the time it takes for the pokemon to upload to the GTS varies...>_>

I'm trying to clone an awesome IVed azelf now...

Little Green Yoda · May 4th, 2007, 1:52:33 AM

So it DOES work like Colosseum cloning. Too bad it's so damn hard to do. =(

CardRaider · May 4th, 2007, 2:13:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dagger

DUDE I FUCKING DID IT. It is in fact possible. However, it is extremely hard to get the timing because the time it takes for the pokemon to upload to the GTS varies...>_>

I'm trying to clone an awesome IVed azelf now...

Does the glitch do anything negative to your game file?

Amazing Ampharos · May 4th, 2007, 4:23:42 AM

I would think the main use of this will be to harvest a few extra Stealth Rock TMs and other items that you can't clone on Emerald (you just need to make a new one every time you want to use one so you never run out). This will also let us share 4th gen event Pokemon, good native DP Dittos, and that sort of thing, but if the time factor is considerable, that might really slow the whole affair down and limit this sort of sharing to sharing with people you know well enough that you're willing to do them favors. I bet it's still much faster than beating Ranger though, and it drastically improves my odds of ever having a legitimate Manafi.

Dan Dan · May 4th, 2007, 4:26:02 AM

So who wants a Manaphy xD

IJsthee · May 4th, 2007, 7:25:39 AM

this could be nice for grass knot, stealth rock, avalanche and other TM's!

ADH · May 4th, 2007, 8:34:47 AM

I have Diamond and Pearl, I'd rather just restart one of them and get another set of TMs and legendaries, rather than risk this stuff on the GTS.

Mike B · May 4th, 2007, 10:06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dan Dan

So who wants a Manaphy xD

pick me!

this is fantastic. i lost my emerald, and found salvation in this xD

kingbattlus · May 4th, 2007, 10:39:03 AM

actually there's a better item cloning glitch. it involved doing a double battle with a theif user and a ditto or something i don't remember the specifics. but you theif your partner after they've transformed or something and you keep both items, no risks. granted it does take a bit and you have to charge up teh vs seeker everytime, but i think for TMs it's pretty sweet.

West · May 4th, 2007, 10:41:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Little Green Yoda

Sounds eerily similar to Colosseum cloning.

EDIT: From my experience with Colosseum, the timing seems random - I've managed success from 6 seconds to 8 seconds. Not sure if it'll be the same with the GTS trick though.

Colosseum cloning? How is it done?

(Asking because I have Colosseum and no Emerald)

Chozo · May 4th, 2007, 10:48:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat kingbattlus

actually there's a better item cloning glitch. it involved doing a double battle with a theif user and a ditto or something i don't remember the specifics. but you theif your partner after they've transformed or something and you keep both items, no risks. granted it does take a bit and you have to charge up teh vs seeker everytime, but i think for TMs it's pretty sweet.

Wasn't that patched for the English release?

denw0 · May 4th, 2007, 10:50:08 AM

Can you do this with eggs? (manaphy egg)

Little Green Yoda · May 4th, 2007, 2:17:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat hp [leaves]

Colosseum cloning? How is it done?

(Asking because I have Colosseum and no Emerald)

Pretty much the same concept as this trick except it involves trading between Colosseum and a GBA game. The key point is that Colosseum saves first; then there is a very brief lag period before the GBA game saves. Turn off the GBA during this lag period.

Since Colosseum has already saved, whatever Pokemon you sent over to the GCN game will be saved to your memory card. The GBA game will say the file got "corrupted" but it'll revert back to the backup save (from before the trade occurred).

The timing, though, does vary a bit and it takes some patience and a little luck to pull off multiple times.

Callum · May 4th, 2007, 2:26:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dan Dan

So who wants a Manaphy xD

I'll take you up on that offer =D

Seriously, though, this is the fourth gen where there's been a cloning glitch? Surely they could have sorted it out by now.

May 3rd, 2007, 10:57:44 PM	#3
Dagger Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 189 NC	It'd be cool if it were real, but I'm not to keen on turning off the power when it is saving or whatnot. Nor do I want to accidentally corrupt my data. __________________

May 3rd, 2007, 11:03:01 PM	#4
gorm Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,191 ½gone	What's been said is that the corrupt data happens anyways and all that happens is it loads the old save file, and either it has the clone, or doesn't. This is stupid to even discuss before this is confirmed (and I believe there are safe ways to test it, known by Surgo among others) but it looks like another partial save error, except much more sketchy than emerald. __________________ pretentious like a 7th son infectious like h1n1

May 3rd, 2007, 11:05:07 PM	#5
Surgo goes to eleven Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,570 Sitting on the edge of time	This is actually fairly well-known, or at least something very similar to it that also abuses the GTS. You need to have exact timing, though, and it's very slow. Expect something like 1% of the efficiency of Emerald cloning, if that. I wouldn't even bother for that very reason. __________________ This signature had to be removed :-(

May 3rd, 2007, 11:11:46 PM	#6
Little Green Yoda Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,439 Dagobah m i rite?	Sounds eerily similar to Colosseum cloning. EDIT: From my experience with Colosseum, the timing seems random - I've managed success from 6 seconds to 8 seconds. Not sure if it'll be the same with the GTS trick though. Last edited by Little Green Yoda; May 3rd, 2007 at 11:16:03 PM.

May 3rd, 2007, 11:15:44 PM	#8
gorm Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,191 ½gone	apparently 7.3~7.5~8. read the thread it's sketchy. I'm pretty sure the devs made sure it wouldn't mess up your data, but the chance of cloning itself is eh. __________________ pretentious like a 7th son infectious like h1n1 Last edited by Surgo; May 3rd, 2007 at 11:18:46 PM.

May 3rd, 2007, 10:56:53 PM	#2
bolt Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 616 Southern California	Oh yeah I heard of that. I heard it acually works. I'm not trying it until someone else does, because i'm not risking shit. You go first Gormenghast.

May 3rd, 2007, 11:12:51 PM	#7
bolt Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 616 Southern California	So we have tp exactly wait 8 full rotation of the loading clock? EXACTLY 8?

May 3rd, 2007, 11:19:05 PM	#9
MKDS_PoKE Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 595 Mario Kart DS Pokemon Master	Someone test it already, I'm not testing until someone else does :O But I'm betting it works __________________ B/W: 3310 3826 7984

May 3rd, 2007, 11:30:29 PM	#10
Dagger Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 189 NC	I'm gonna try it...I'll edit with results...Wish me luck that I don't corrupt my game...>_> __________________

May 3rd, 2007, 11:35:07 PM	#11
bolt Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 616 Southern California	Godspeed, Dagger. Godspeed.

May 4th, 2007, 1:09:55 AM	#12
Dagger Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 189 NC	DUDE I FUCKING DID IT. It is in fact possible. However, it is extremely hard to get the timing because the time it takes for the pokemon to upload to the GTS varies...>_> I'm trying to clone an awesome IVed azelf now... __________________ Last edited by Dagger; May 4th, 2007 at 1:15:08 AM.

May 4th, 2007, 1:52:33 AM	#13
Little Green Yoda Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,439 Dagobah m i rite?	So it DOES work like Colosseum cloning. Too bad it's so damn hard to do. =(

May 4th, 2007, 4:23:42 AM	#15
Amazing Ampharos Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559	I would think the main use of this will be to harvest a few extra Stealth Rock TMs and other items that you can't clone on Emerald (you just need to make a new one every time you want to use one so you never run out). This will also let us share 4th gen event Pokemon, good native DP Dittos, and that sort of thing, but if the time factor is considerable, that might really slow the whole affair down and limit this sort of sharing to sharing with people you know well enough that you're willing to do them favors. I bet it's still much faster than beating Ranger though, and it drastically improves my odds of ever having a legitimate Manafi.

May 4th, 2007, 4:26:02 AM	#16
Dan Dan Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,740 Ingerland	So who wants a Manaphy xD

May 4th, 2007, 7:25:39 AM	#17
IJsthee Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 249 yes	this could be nice for grass knot, stealth rock, avalanche and other TM's!

May 4th, 2007, 8:34:47 AM	#18
ADH Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Manassas, VA	I have Diamond and Pearl, I'd rather just restart one of them and get another set of TMs and legendaries, rather than risk this stuff on the GTS. __________________ Sure, I suck, but I have fun while I'm at it.

May 4th, 2007, 10:39:03 AM	#20
kingbattlus Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,472 Michigan	actually there's a better item cloning glitch. it involved doing a double battle with a theif user and a ditto or something i don't remember the specifics. but you theif your partner after they've transformed or something and you keep both items, no risks. granted it does take a bit and you have to charge up teh vs seeker everytime, but i think for TMs it's pretty sweet.

May 4th, 2007, 10:50:08 AM	#23
denw0 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 108	Can you do this with eggs? (manaphy egg)