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Counters Project
Hey guys. Recently I noticed that some of the "Checks and Counters" sections of Pokemon on site are not very in-depth. This section is arguably the most important section, and is one of the main reasons as to why analyses are read. For this reason, Setsuna has given me the go ahead to kickstart this project to revamp some of the sections. This does not mean we are completely rewriting them - we are just going to add more information. We will be starting with OU, and if it is successful I see no reason why it cannot move to the other tiers too.
There will only be a few of us working on writing the sections. However, as we will post the updated versions here and leave them for a couple of days, feel free to jump in with any small additional changes that you feel necessary. The people working on this project are harsha, jrrrrrrr, Nachos, and Pocket. I am more than confident that they can produce great work.
An example update is below. As you can see, it is essentially a case of adding more detail. Almost all of the Pokemon listed are OU, and it is a case of simply providing the reader with more information.
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Landorus's counters depend heavily on what set and moves he's running. When playing against Landorus, it is important to be wary of switching into an obvious U-turn which would give the opponent the upper hand. Gliscor can take any sets lacking Hidden Power Ice with ease, stalling out Stone Edge's low PP. Outside of Smack Down and heavily boosted attacks, both Skarmory and Bronzong are excellent switch-ins to Landorus. Skarmory can use Whirlwind to get rid of Landorus in the short term, or can alternatively use Brave Bird to deal some heavy damage. Bronzong can abuse its low Speed, hitting Landorus very hard with Gyro Ball. Ice Beam Cresselia is immune to Earthquake and can use her massive Defense to sponge Stone Edge, while Hippowdon is able to take anything besides a boosted Earthquake and can hit hard with Ice Fang. Both Slowbro and Tangrowth are able to sponge Landorus's attacks, and are also able to regain HP via their ability Regenerator. Virizion resists Earthquake and Stone Edge, and can hit Landorus with a fatal Hidden Power Ice. Even after Stealth Rock, Gyarados can survive an unboosted Stone Edge from an Intimidated Landorus, and will usually knock Landorus out with Waterfall. Cloyster is easily able to survive a hit from Choice Scarf Landorus and will OHKO with Icicle Spear. Rotom-W can abuse its Ground-type immunity to avoid Landorus's Earthquake, and can use Hydro Pump to remove him from play. Defensive Rotom-W can take a Stone Edge, whereas a Choice Scarf set can immediately outspeed and threaten Landorus. Bulk Up Breloom can 2HKO with Seed Bomb whereas Landorus will fail to 2HKO back with Hidden Power Ice.
If unboosted, Landorus's Speed stat leaves him at the mercy of being revenge-killed by fast sweepers. Starmie and Choice Specs Latios can both OHKO Landorus, while Choice Band Terrakion will on average score an OHKO with Stone Edge after Stealth Rock damage. Gengar is immune to Earthquake and can shrug off Hidden Power Ice, and can use Substitute and Disable to prevent Stone Edge from connecting. Gengar can then hit Landorus hard with a Life Orb Shadow Ball. Life Orb Mienshao can outspeed and use Hidden Power Ice, while Choice Scarf Politoed can destroy Landorus with a rain boosted Surf. Priority users are a problem for Landorus; Weavile and Mamoswine can Ice Shard him into oblivion, much like how Azumarill deals massive damage with his super effective Aqua Jet. Scizor and Dragonite can also revenge kill weakened Landorus with Bullet Punch and ExtremeSpeed respectively.
Counters Project
Hey guys. Recently I noticed that some of the "Checks and Counters" sections of Pokemon on site are not very in-depth. This section is arguably the most important section, and is one of the main reasons as to why analyses are read. For this reason, Setsuna has given me the go ahead to kickstart this project to revamp some of the sections. This does not mean we are completely rewriting them - we are just going to add more information. We will be starting with OU, and if it is successful I see no reason why it cannot move to the other tiers too.
There will only be a few of us working on writing the sections. However, as we will post the updated versions here and leave them for a couple of days, feel free to jump in with any small additional changes that you feel necessary. The people working on this project are harsha, jrrrrrrr, Nachos, and Pocket. I am more than confident that they can produce great work.
An example update is below. As you can see, it is essentially a case of adding more detail. Almost all of the Pokemon listed are OU, and it is a case of simply providing the reader with more information.
Old:
Landorus's counters depend heavily on what set and moves he's running. Gliscor can take any sets lacking Hidden Power Ice with ease, stalling out Stone Edge's low PP. Without boosted Stone Edge, Skarmory checks Landorus, as does Bronzong should Landorus lack Hammer Arm. Hippowdon takes anything besides boosted Earthquake and Grass Knot. Also, Landorus risks being revenge-killed; faster users of super effective moves can take down the Swords Dance set, while strong attackers can take down the Rock Polish set if Landorus doesn't OHKO. Air Balloon users are a problem that plagues Landorus lacking Hammer Arm, most being able to take a unboosted Stone Edge easily and retaliate. Priority users are also a problem for Landorus, Azumarill being the worst of the bunch due to having an absurdly powerful super effective priority attack in Aqua Jet.
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Landorus's counters depend heavily on what set and moves he's running. When playing against Landorus, it is important to be wary of switching into an obvious U-turn which would give the opponent the upper hand. Gliscor can take any sets lacking Hidden Power Ice with ease, stalling out Stone Edge's low PP. Outside of Smack Down and heavily boosted attacks, both Skarmory and Bronzong are excellent switch-ins to Landorus. Skarmory can use Whirlwind to get rid of Landorus in the short term, or can alternatively use Brave Bird to deal some heavy damage. Bronzong can abuse its low Speed, hitting Landorus very hard with Gyro Ball. Ice Beam Cresselia is immune to Earthquake and can use her massive Defense to sponge Stone Edge, while Hippowdon is able to take anything besides a boosted Earthquake and can hit hard with Ice Fang. Both Slowbro and Tangrowth are able to sponge Landorus's attacks, and are also able to regain HP via their ability Regenerator. Virizion resists Earthquake and Stone Edge, and can hit Landorus with a fatal Hidden Power Ice. Even after Stealth Rock, Gyarados can survive an unboosted Stone Edge from an Intimidated Landorus, and will usually knock Landorus out with Waterfall. Cloyster is easily able to survive a hit from Choice Scarf Landorus and will OHKO with Icicle Spear. Rotom-W can abuse its Ground-type immunity to avoid Landorus's Earthquake, and can use Hydro Pump to remove him from play. Defensive Rotom-W can take a Stone Edge, whereas a Choice Scarf set can immediately outspeed and threaten Landorus. Bulk Up Breloom can 2HKO with Seed Bomb whereas Landorus will fail to 2HKO back with Hidden Power Ice.
If unboosted, Landorus's Speed stat leaves him at the mercy of being revenge-killed by fast sweepers. Starmie and Choice Specs Latios can both OHKO Landorus, while Choice Band Terrakion will on average score an OHKO with Stone Edge after Stealth Rock damage. Gengar is immune to Earthquake and can shrug off Hidden Power Ice, and can use Substitute and Disable to prevent Stone Edge from connecting. Gengar can then hit Landorus hard with a Life Orb Shadow Ball. Life Orb Mienshao can outspeed and use Hidden Power Ice, while Choice Scarf Politoed can destroy Landorus with a rain boosted Surf. Priority users are a problem for Landorus; Weavile and Mamoswine can Ice Shard him into oblivion, much like how Azumarill deals massive damage with his super effective Aqua Jet. Scizor and Dragonite can also revenge kill weakened Landorus with Bullet Punch and ExtremeSpeed respectively.