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![]() A special thanks goes out to Pocket, who helped me greatly in developing this project and for running the Hall of Fame section, Mafeking for maintaining the Registered Users section, and V0x, who provided thoughts and a grammar check! Preface: Check out what's NEW! Hello! Here we are, the tentative final month of the Dark Horse Project. At the end of this month, we'll finally get to see if we've had any overall change on the centralizing forces of BW OU. If this is your first experience with the Dark Horse Project, please read through the entire opening post to get a sense of what we're about. However, if you're a seasoned veteran in how this works, then feel free to hop right into it! Here's a list of all of the changes from last month's opening post:
For those of you that are new, hello! I'm posting here to shake up the way in which DST functions and thinks. Ever since we ditched Suspect Voting, DST has lost a bit of its competitive edge. What I'm presenting within this topic is an effort to reignite some of that spark to get us back on track! Furthermore, I hope to increase appreciation for Dark Horse Pokemon, or rather, Pokemon that are currently unpopular but have the potential to shine in OU. The purpose of this project threefold. It should increase diversity in the OU metagame by encouraging the competitive use of great Pokemon that unfortunately fall on the lower end of usage. This project also aims to initiate discussion on how Dark Horse Pokemon fit in the context of the OU metagame. Finally, it should assist in the the sharing of unique team ideas and Pokemon sets to spark creativity into the competitive minds of DST. Let's begin. Rules: This project, simply put, aims at recognizing users who put forth the effort to create a competitively successful team that utilizes Pokemon that aren't often used in OU. Anyone with a Smogon account has a chance of reaching the Hall of Fame within this project. Here are the rules by which this project is run:
Registration: You are eligible to register for the Dark Horse Project at any time of the month! The third post in this topic contains an index for easy access to all participants, so don't worry about your Registration Form getting lost in the sea of discussion. Get started by filling out the below form: Quote:
Within your registration post, feel free to upload battle logs and teammates that you are using at the bottom! Also feel free to utilize Pokemon sprites to add visualization. Really anything can go here. If you've made posts elsewhere or even a RMT, feel free to link to it there. Here's an example of what a registration post might look like:
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Once you've registered, you're all set to go! You can start teambuilding and laddering whenever you like. Feel free to update your registration posts whenever you like, whether it be with ladder ranking updates, your teammate selections, battle logs, sprites, or whatever you like! Discussion: This topic also serves a second purpose to initiate discussion on battlers' teambuilding and laddering progress; in this thread, you share your struggles and success, and reflect upon the Dark Horse Pokemon's niche in the current OU metagame. This thread is not only a place to show off successful challenges, but also a place to help each other achieve their goals via posting your problems and receiving quality input from others. Challengers should not hesitate to post their teams and/or team ideas to receive help from the community. You are allowed to post your thoughts and opinions. However, here is a "Do and Do Not" list that posters in this topic must adhere to:
Also, remember that good discussion points and tips will be logged in the Discussion & Learning section for the use of anyone who's looking to become a better battler. Hop to it! Hall of Fame: Now comes the competitive aspect of this project. Once you've reached a ranking within the Top 80 on Smogon's competitive OU ladder (with a minimum of 1350 points) with your Dark Horse Pokemon, you are eligible to enter the Hall of Fame! The Hall of Fame is located within the post below the OP and recognizes each user that has entered its halls. Once you've reached the Top 80, please fill out the following Hall of Fame Registration Form: Quote:
Now, there is one final catch to this project. You see, only one of each Dark Horse Pokemon is allowed into the Hall of Fame per month. For example, only the first challenger who laddered to the Top 80 with Jolteon will be accepted this month; any subsequent Jolteon challengers cannot enter the Hall of Fame until a new round begins next month. That's where the competitive edge comes into play. You are racing against other users for a place in the Hall of Fame! Furthermore, the Hall of Fame ranking is based off of peak ladder ranking points, meaning the more points you score, the higher you'll be placed. So now that you know the rules, get registered and start team building! Best of luck. If you have any questions, send me a PM or VM. I hope to see you in the Hall of Fame. Last edited by Birkal; Mar 4th, 2012 at 11:11:20 PM. |
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![]() Credit goes to the highly talented Aluriiya for the above Blitzle image. Used with her personal permission. Current Hall of Fame (7): Be one of the few to conquer the Ladder with your Dark Horse, and you will be forever recorded in our Hall of Fame! Remember, admission now requires you to obtain the Top 80 on Smogon's ladder with 1350 ladder points minimum. - Noodlez - Kingdra"Kingdra is a beast once you get rain dance up, you guys should all try this set out!" Peaked at: 1470 (#9) on 3/4/2012 Entered the Hall of Fame at: 1364 (#72) on 3/2/2012
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- Bad Ass - Raikou Slowbro"The main goal of the team was to use Nattorei to come in on all the bulky waters and lay hazards while Slowbro gave me a nice core and counter to SS teams (...) Lucario and Raikou played cleanup -- Lucario moreso. I often used Raikou's bulk to handle bulky waters, Gengar, and more special attackers. He also tore down rain teams." Peaked at: 1446 (#16) on 3/7/2012
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- Molk - Virizion"virizion is just a beast if it sets up, pretty antimeta providing a check to things like rotom-W (...) i used a CM varient because its one of my favorite sets in BW" Peaked at: 1421 (#37) on 3/18/2012 Entered the Hall of Fame at: 1375 (#70) on 3/17/2012
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- Lady Alex - Suicune"This is just a baton pass team I made a loooong time ago, except I got rid of Celebi for Suicune. Suicune worked ok in this team. It's coverage helped frequently, but whatever." "Looking back on it, I guess I was just trying to use Suicune as an inferior Latias, which is something that disappoints me." Peaked at: 1399 (#46) on 3/8/2012 Entered the Hall of Fame at: 1371 (#70) on 3/8/2012
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Mew Deoxys-D"For mew, I was inspired to use nasty plot mew after having seen snunch's success with it in ST8, and I was not disappointed at all by its performance. Mew is a powerhouse once it gets to +2, and, with deoxys-d support, it has to worry a lot less about barely missing the 1hko like it normally does." Peaked at: 1374 (#72) on 3/12/2012 Discussion Repsone (below); log replay, 2, 3
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- toshimelonhead - Porygon2 VictiniPeaked at: 1372 (#73) on 3/9/2012
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- Texas Cloverleaf - Sceptile"Sceptile's role is usually that of clean up, a job it performs admirably, with Grass/Fighting/Ice getting solid coverage on the majority of the tier. As very little can outspeed Sceptile its quite easy to clean through teams, Giga Drain recovering off any Life Orb and residual damage that may be incurred" Peaked at: 1367 (#79) on 3/5/2012 RMT
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- Raseri - Azumarill ToxicroakPeaked at: 1361 (#79) on 3/4/2012
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Hall of Fame Archive (22): (click on the poke icon for more info!) Gold Class: 1499-1450 1. ToF 1/30/12 - 1465 (#18) 2. Lady Alex 2/11/12 1455 (#14) (RMT) 1/25/12 1355 (#81) - (Discussion Response) 3. Pearl 1/16/12 - 1455 (#38) (ladder update) 2/7/12 1385 (#79) (icons linked to multiple posts!) Silver Class: 1449-1400 4. AccidentalGreed 1/22/12 - 1438 (#25) (Discussion Response; RMT) 5. ala 1/16/12 1433 (#27) 6. Pwnemon 2/14/12 1410 (#27) (ladder update) 7. Berserker Lord 1/7/12 1409 (#43) - (ladder update) 8. Zoap 2/20/12 1405 (#29) - (icons linked to multiple posts!) Bronze Class: 1399-1350 9. lampeskaerm2 2/25/12 1390 (#33) - (log replay; ladder update) [Total HoF Entry with Spinda: 2] 10. Jcpdragonx 1/15/12 1371 (#78) 11. Noodlez 2/5/12 1367 (#77) 12. ginganinja 1/10/12 1363 (#84) (Discussion Response; RMT) 13. YAYtears 2/14/12 1360 (#70) (log replay) 14. Boorego 2/23/12 1358 (#70) 15. ssbm 1/5/12 1357 (#87) (diff links for each icon!) 16. toshimelonhead 1/10/12 1356 (#95) (RMT) 17. Patolegend! 2/29/12 1354 (#70) 18. Master of the Six Kings 2/19/12 1352 (#79) 19. fairytale 1/8/12 1352 (#100) 20. ~Mercury~ 2/8/12 1351 (#72) Honorable Mention: < 1350 21. NoJohns 1/5/12 1345 (#95) (Discussion Response) 22. Metagross66 1/4/12 1339 (#98)
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![]() Credit goes to the excellent Xous54 for the above Blitzle image. Used with his personal permission. Registered Users (**IMPORTANT** Please Read!!): This month, the registration function will be handled slightly differently! In an effort to reduce needless searching through the out-dated threads for people who may be updating there, I would like everyone to make a post in this thread with a re-registration! This DOES NOT mean that you must restart with a different alt or Pokemon! The re-post is solely in the interest of streamlining the registration process. Additionally, people who are no longer interested in competing in the project will not get on the new list due to not re-registering, reducing overall clutter. I'll be checking every post here daily, so don't worry about notifying me if you have plans on adding or switching Pokemon! When the post will be updated, of course, will vary depending on your time zone relationship to me and when I'm home from school and stuff like that. However, if you notice that the list has been updated and I've missed you, for whatever accidental reason, please let me know by VM or PM so I can fix it! Thanks guys! :) If you don't see this post and don't re-register for the project immediately, don't worry! You can register and submit your final ranking in the same post for all I care! For posterity, here is the old list from Volume 2. You can go directly to your post and just copy/paste your registration into this thread and I'll add you to the new list! Thanks much!
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New List: (Last Update; through Xanderpitz) Quote:
- Aeromence - Abomasnow / Froslass / Kyurem - alexwolf - Dugtrio / Shaymin - Ambicrow3 - Shuckle - Bad Ass - Raikou / Slowbro (Success! March 7th) - badabing - Rotom-Neutral - Berserker Lord - Escavalier - Byrn Dragonstone - Metagross / Snorlax - /B/utterfree - Parasect - complete legitimacy - Nidoking - D4RR3N - Cloyster - Dcae - Delibird - dragonboy52 - Jynx - DrunkDemon - Aggron / Bronzong / Chandelure / Hitmontop - Expert Physics - Tornadus - finestcrab71 - Swellow / Toxicroak / Scolipede - "Furry" Furai - None, as Raikou made it to the HoF - ginganinja - Empoleon - Harsha - Feraligatr / Tornadus - HiipFire - Darmanitan - .I Wish You Well. - None, as Slowbro made it to the HoF - Iceydude168 - Cobalion - JSND - Druddigon - Katakiri - Cobalion - Lady Alex - Suicune (Success! March 8th) | Mew / Deoxys-D (Success! March 12th) - lampeskaerm2 - Spinda - Leethoof - Archeops - LucaroakZ - Feraligatr - Mafeking - Togekiss - Master of the Six Kings - Golurk / Weavile - Molk - Virizion (Success! March 17th) | Team 2: Kyurem - mostwanted - Weavile - MrCookie - Porygon2 - NatGeo - Feraligatr - Noodlez - Kingdra (Success! March 2nd) - Novaray - Azelf / Cloyster - nyttyn - Gorebyss / Gardevoir - Pikapwnd - Staraptor / Quagsire - Plaid - Gallade / Bisharp - Pocket - Nidoking - Pwnemon - Zapdos / Venusaur / Mienshao - Raseri - Azumarill / Toxicroak (Success! March 4th) | Jynx (Team 2) - Razza - Cloyster / Azelf - Scorpio - Scrafty - Seth Vilo - Roserade / Sableye - shuckles my hero - Shuckle - SlimMan - Carracosta / Rotom-C - Sloth105 - Ninjask - Stumpen - None, as Mew made it to the HoF - SubakSupreme - Gorebyss - SuperChillarmy - Alakazam - Texas Cloverleaf - Sceptile (Team 1) (Success! March 5th) | Scrafty / Sableye / Metagross (Team 2) - ToF - Chansey / Sableye / Sharpedo - Tomahawk9 - Shaymin / Suicune - toshimelonhead - Victini / Porygon2 (Success! March 9th) - toy Soldier - Tornadus - TropiOUs - Venusaur - UltiMario - Medicham - Vix - Flygon / Manetric - WashedLaundry - Azelf - winterpetrel - Porygon-Z / Slowbro - Xanderpitz - Gastrodon / Bouffalant - YAYtears - Feraligatr - Yonko7 - Golurk - Zoap - Mienshao / Azelf Remember, registration is always OPEN.
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![]() Credit goes to the incredible Karite-Kita-Neko for the above Blitzle image. Used because it's free for public use. Huzzah! Preface: Welcome to the "Learning and Discussion" section of the Dark Horse Project! I am very excited for what's going to take place here, which will mainly be to catalog any meaningful tidbits of advice for public use. This is something new that we'll be working on as a team. As a result, this is currently under construction. However, I've devised a list of questions that you can feel free to answer at any point. Remember, it's not just the answers to these questions that will get posted here; any meaningful advice that you give also has a shot of making it here! I hope this resource can be insightful and meaningful for anyone who's looking to improve their skills with Dark Horse Pokemon. If you ever see a tidbit or piece of advice that you deem as valuable and would like to see posted here, I'll consider it if you send me a PM with the necessary information. I'll also take questions that you'd like to see answered if you're willing to provide them and add them to the below list. Thanks for your help! With Pocket and Mafeking now on board, I will be dedicating my full attention to this post. So expect some information up here very soon (from all three Dark Horse Projects)! Questions: Quote:
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HoF Standing: Not this month Darkhorse Pokemon: Tornadus Current Rank: 1000 |
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HoF Standing: n/a Darkhorse Pokemon: Kingdra Current Rank: 1285 Last edited by Noodlez; Mar 2nd, 2012 at 10:20:08 PM. |
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HoF Standing: None Darkhorse Pokemon: Tornadus Current Rank: 1000 Last edited by toy Soldier; Mar 2nd, 2012 at 11:40:23 AM. Reason: raikou sucks |
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Pokemon Online Username: aeromence22
Hall of Fame Standing: Ya Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Abomasnow / Froslass / Kyurem Current Ladder Standing: 1284 Code:
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Hall Of Fame Standing: Silver Current Dark Horse Pokemon: Zapdos, Slowbro, Roserade, Mienshao Current Ladder Standing: 1000 shit i wanna be silver. My ACTUAL peak: well actually my truest peak was 22 but i forgot to screenshot and this is CLOSE ENOUGH
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Pokemon Online Username:SusanCoffey Hall of Fame Standing:None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Empoleon Current Ladder Standing (rating?): 1240 Quick Question. I have returned to laddering after spending a month building 50+ teams, many of which (not intentionally) include Dark Horse pokemon ( 8 "perfect" Teams with another 15-20 needing finishing touches). Im going to be testing these teams and aiming to get as high up the ladder as possible. My question is do I need to create a separate account each time in order to use them under the Dark Horse Project or is there something else I could do. Ideally I don't want to create 15-20 odd alts for such a limited period of time so iI was wondering if (as leader of the Dark Horse Project) you might have an idea or two to help me avoid that. Cheers!
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Pokemon Online Username: Reckless Ska Hall of Fame Standing: none.... Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Staraptor and Quagsire Current Ladder Standing: 1000
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This is pokemon, not life or death. Last edited by Pikapwnd; Mar 2nd, 2012 at 7:56:02 AM. |
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Hall of Fame Standing: none Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Cloyster Current Ladder Standing: 1000
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HoF Standing: January and February. Now we go for March. Darkhorse Pokemon: Spinda Current Rank: 1000 |
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ginganinja, you're in HoF :o
You can register multiple mons per alt if they are in the same team. However, you need to start from blank when laddering with a different team. |
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Pokemon Online username: Vix (yay for not playing OU for who knows how long!)
Hall of fame status: if I ever get here I will still be shocked Dark horse pokemon currently working with : Flygon, manetric Current ladder standing:35380 lol
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Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Golurk Current Ladder Standing: 1050 Last edited by Yonko7; Mar 11th, 2012 at 1:56:23 PM. |
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Updated, Pwnemon's HoF status :) Make sure to keep us up-to-date with your ladder peaks via visual proof and updating your registration post!
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Pokemon Online Username: Kira Light
Hall of Fame Status: None Dark horse Pokemon currently working with: Tornadus Current ladder standing: 1125 Points |
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Sorry, D4RR3N, but Mamoswine has been above 5% usage since January, so it's not a Dark Horse :o. I also removed Mamoswine in Zoap's HoF, since that was also a mistake. Make sure to check this month's usage statistics!
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Dark Horse Pokemon: Kingdra Screenshot of Top 80 Ladder Ranking:
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Kingdra is a beast once you get rain dance up, you guys should all try this set out ! SpecsDra is also pretty nice, try him out too! Last edited by Noodlez; Mar 4th, 2012 at 1:23:08 PM. |
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ROTFL, amazing work, Noodlez, landing yourself into Hall of Fame before anyone else - in a matter of hours o_o;; Feel free to continue riding on your ladder escalator to steal the top spot in HoF archive!
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Pocket, I just realised that someone else also used Empoleon to get into the HoF. Should I cancel my challenge and use a new pokemon?
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That is the HoF ARCHIVE. The only person who made it to Hall of Fame this month is Noodlez, who used Kingdra, so you're safe to use Empoleon.
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Hall of Fame Standing: None yet Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Raikou Current Ladder Standing: 1000 ![]() Raikou @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Substitute - Calm Mind - Thunder - Hidden Power [Ice] Last edited by Furai; Mar 3rd, 2012 at 9:41:07 AM. |
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Pokemon Online Username: Dragonzdark (**alt changed on 12th March)
Hall of Fame Standing: N/A Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Jynx Current Ladder Standing: None yet. Last edited by dragonboy52; Mar 12th, 2012 at 4:08:22 AM. |
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