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Little Cup Metagame Development
From this thread we will promote and expand the fast paced and fun new metagame of Little Cup.
I will post links to all relevant info about Little Cup in this post.
The old thread
The Little Cup Forum
We now have our own Little Cup Forum to work on Little Cup Analysis and Guides, they will still all be posted in this thread, but only once they are complete.
Most of the stuff we have writen is ONLY on the LCF right now. We plan to arrange to have it all put up on Smogon at some future stage but for now it is by far the best place to look.
From now on please post new Guides, Analysis or anything smiler in the forum, once a mod (on the LC Forum) approves it you may post it here and it will be linked to.
If you have written a LC analysis or Guide please repost it on the new forum.
The Little Cup Wiki
To try to improve the quality of our Analysis and Guides we have chosen to start a Wiki, the format of a Wiki is also easier to read then Forums.
Not that much of our stuff has been loaded onto it yet but it is progressing.
Little Cup Analysis:
For many more analysis (and up to date versions of these) please view our Analysis Workshop on the Little Cup forum, or our new Analysis list on the Wiki which has only a few of the Analysis right now but is in a better format.
Otherwise here are the ones that are on Smogon.
Ubers
Tangela
OU
Abra
Bronzor
Buizel
Cranidos
Cyndaquil
Dratini
Diglett
Elekid
Gligar
Magby
Meowth
Misdreavus
Munchlax
Murkrow
Ponyta
Rhyhorn
Snover
Staryu
BL
Aron
Bagon
Buneary
Cubone
Eevee
Exeggcute
Geodude
Houndour
Lickitung
Makuhita
Mankey
Mantyke
Porygon
Psyduck
Rattata
Teddiursa
Treecko
Wynaut
Zigzagoon
Totodile and Croagunk
Other (UU/UUBL/NU)
Remoraid
Shinx
Spinarak
Squirtle
Useful Guides/Information:
(More (and more up to date versions of these) in the Guides section of the LC forums.)
Little Cup Tiers
Little Cup Speed Tiers
A guide to making EV spreads for Little Cup
A guide to Move Legality in Little Cup
Smogon's on-site guide to Little Cup (Rules and Banned list are quite outdated)
Little Cup Warstorys:
By ODDish
By DN/SkarmBlissCounter
By tentaintcool
By PirateDelux
By KinglerDude24
Other stuff:
A very useful Little Cup Stat Calculator
Proof that you can get any EV spread at Lv 5
On Site Little Cup Analysis Workshop
A Brilliant RMT by Kinglerdude24
Rules and Clauses for Little Cup matches
Sleep Clause
Self KO Clause
Only Pokemon that can evolve, but have not are allowed (so Machop is allowed, but even though Machoke is not the final stage it has evolved once so it is automatically banned. Any Pokemon that is in its final stage is also banned.).
All Pokemon must be lv. 5 (Levels 1, 30, 50 and 100 are used by some people, but Lv 5 is by far the most common)
The moves Dragon Rage and Sonicboom are banned.
OHKO clause
Banned Pokemon:
The "Uber Tier" Of Little Cup.
Scyther
Reason: Sword Dance, Agility great Attack/Speed, Technician Quick Attack and a nice movepool make it near unstoppable. It has not been tested yet due to this post, it may be moved to under testing at some future time.
Yanma
Reason: Speed Boost. It sweeps with ease in a metagame so focused on speed. Hypnosis for those it can't 1KO.
Sneasel
Reason: High Attack and Speed, its STAB Ice Shard+Sword Dance 1KOs most Scarfers that try to revenge kill it.
Meditite
Reason: VERY high attack and high powered STAB moves (so high it can 1KO Bronzor without any boosts using a neutral STAB attack) and decent speed (scarf can give it 24 speed so not easy to revenge kill).
Tangela
Reason: Great Def and Sp.A, the Sunny Day set is near unstoppable. Can sweep teams with ease. The wall set is not broken, but we can't ban movesets.
Clamperl (only with Deepseatooth):
Reason:
A massive 36 Sp.A and decent defenses, if your team can pass speed or set up Trick Room tis thing will take down a few Pokemon. It may be retested and possibly unbanned at some stage.
Under Testing:
Feel free to suggest Pokemon to be moved here (remember to back up your arguments).
Murkrow
What you can do to help promote Little Cup:
Play the game, most of the LC players go to DJD's server as there is a LC ladder there. The Server's address and port can be found here.
Join the Little Cup Forum, most of the stuff we do is there.
Help to rewrite the on site guide.
Write a guide on a specific part of Little Cup.
Help us construct a tier list and threat list for Little Cup.
Talk about it and tell other people.
Discuss any "under testing" Pokemon.
Write a good Little Cup RMT or Warstory.
Write an Analysis for a Pokemon, or comment on some else's to help them improve it. Please do not post single movesets or incomplete analysis, we don't expect you to get it perfect first draught but at least write each section, use this format for analysis. Post Analysis in the Forum's Analysis Workshop.
Smogon's high up members have decided (for now) not to put the Little Cup Analysis on site, but don't let that stop you from writing them as I will put a link to them in this OP so they can be accsesed by players.
From this thread we will promote and expand the fast paced and fun new metagame of Little Cup.
I will post links to all relevant info about Little Cup in this post.
The old thread
The Little Cup Forum
We now have our own Little Cup Forum to work on Little Cup Analysis and Guides, they will still all be posted in this thread, but only once they are complete.
Most of the stuff we have writen is ONLY on the LCF right now. We plan to arrange to have it all put up on Smogon at some future stage but for now it is by far the best place to look.
From now on please post new Guides, Analysis or anything smiler in the forum, once a mod (on the LC Forum) approves it you may post it here and it will be linked to.
If you have written a LC analysis or Guide please repost it on the new forum.
The Little Cup Wiki
To try to improve the quality of our Analysis and Guides we have chosen to start a Wiki, the format of a Wiki is also easier to read then Forums.
Not that much of our stuff has been loaded onto it yet but it is progressing.
Little Cup Analysis:
For many more analysis (and up to date versions of these) please view our Analysis Workshop on the Little Cup forum, or our new Analysis list on the Wiki which has only a few of the Analysis right now but is in a better format.
Otherwise here are the ones that are on Smogon.
Ubers
Tangela
OU
Abra
Bronzor
Buizel
Cranidos
Cyndaquil
Dratini
Diglett
Elekid
Gligar
Magby
Meowth
Misdreavus
Munchlax
Murkrow
Ponyta
Rhyhorn
Snover
Staryu
BL
Aron
Bagon
Buneary
Cubone
Eevee
Exeggcute
Geodude
Houndour
Lickitung
Makuhita
Mankey
Mantyke
Porygon
Psyduck
Rattata
Teddiursa
Treecko
Wynaut
Zigzagoon
Totodile and Croagunk
Other (UU/UUBL/NU)
Remoraid
Shinx
Spinarak
Squirtle
Useful Guides/Information:
(More (and more up to date versions of these) in the Guides section of the LC forums.)
Little Cup Tiers
Little Cup Speed Tiers
A guide to making EV spreads for Little Cup
A guide to Move Legality in Little Cup
Smogon's on-site guide to Little Cup (Rules and Banned list are quite outdated)
Little Cup Warstorys:
By ODDish
By DN/SkarmBlissCounter
By tentaintcool
By PirateDelux
By KinglerDude24
Other stuff:
A very useful Little Cup Stat Calculator
Proof that you can get any EV spread at Lv 5
On Site Little Cup Analysis Workshop
A Brilliant RMT by Kinglerdude24
Rules and Clauses for Little Cup matches
Sleep Clause
Self KO Clause
Only Pokemon that can evolve, but have not are allowed (so Machop is allowed, but even though Machoke is not the final stage it has evolved once so it is automatically banned. Any Pokemon that is in its final stage is also banned.).
All Pokemon must be lv. 5 (Levels 1, 30, 50 and 100 are used by some people, but Lv 5 is by far the most common)
The moves Dragon Rage and Sonicboom are banned.
OHKO clause
Banned Pokemon:
The "Uber Tier" Of Little Cup.
Scyther
Reason: Sword Dance, Agility great Attack/Speed, Technician Quick Attack and a nice movepool make it near unstoppable. It has not been tested yet due to this post, it may be moved to under testing at some future time.
Yanma
Reason: Speed Boost. It sweeps with ease in a metagame so focused on speed. Hypnosis for those it can't 1KO.
Sneasel
Reason: High Attack and Speed, its STAB Ice Shard+Sword Dance 1KOs most Scarfers that try to revenge kill it.
Meditite
Reason: VERY high attack and high powered STAB moves (so high it can 1KO Bronzor without any boosts using a neutral STAB attack) and decent speed (scarf can give it 24 speed so not easy to revenge kill).
Tangela
Reason: Great Def and Sp.A, the Sunny Day set is near unstoppable. Can sweep teams with ease. The wall set is not broken, but we can't ban movesets.
Clamperl (only with Deepseatooth):
Reason:
A massive 36 Sp.A and decent defenses, if your team can pass speed or set up Trick Room tis thing will take down a few Pokemon. It may be retested and possibly unbanned at some stage.
Under Testing:
Feel free to suggest Pokemon to be moved here (remember to back up your arguments).
Murkrow
What you can do to help promote Little Cup:
Play the game, most of the LC players go to DJD's server as there is a LC ladder there. The Server's address and port can be found here.
Join the Little Cup Forum, most of the stuff we do is there.
Help to rewrite the on site guide.
Write a guide on a specific part of Little Cup.
Help us construct a tier list and threat list for Little Cup.
Talk about it and tell other people.
Discuss any "under testing" Pokemon.
Write a good Little Cup RMT or Warstory.
Write an Analysis for a Pokemon, or comment on some else's to help them improve it. Please do not post single movesets or incomplete analysis, we don't expect you to get it perfect first draught but at least write each section, use this format for analysis. Post Analysis in the Forum's Analysis Workshop.
Smogon's high up members have decided (for now) not to put the Little Cup Analysis on site, but don't let that stop you from writing them as I will put a link to them in this OP so they can be accsesed by players.