Garchomp Vote

Aeolus · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:22:09 PM

Vote.

Explanations are welcome, but not required.

29 votes is the magic number.

Articanus · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:26:23 PM

I voted Chomp uber after a long time of discussing it with friends and frankly, myself. Why did I decide on uber in the end? Easy: the suspect metagame is so much more fun!

Jimbo · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:30:33 PM

Voted uber, all the reasons have been explained in depth yea.

remlabmez · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:40:50 PM

Voted.

Fishin · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:41:22 PM

Voting uber. I honestly believe it's too close of a call for Chomp's status to be determined by any real sort of solid evidence. If something like Darkrai was allowed in OU, we'd find ways to get around it without losing our whole team, sure, but that wouldn't really change its status. Since Garchomp was allowed without (much) question from the beginning of D/P, I feel that "finding ways to get around it" is what we've been doing; Garchomp is just that much better than any other OU. To be honest, I'm actually going to miss it to an extent should it get banned since I prefer a heavily offensive metagame, but as far as balance goes I'm set in my belief that banning it is the best decision.

**Limitless** · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:41:25 PM

I kind of voted for OU, but I meant to vote Ubers... If someone could change that, I would appreciate it. However, if you can't that's fine too.

***Great Sage***** · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:52:37 PM

I voted Uber, for largely the same reasons as Fishin. Also, from experience, I've found that the Yache set in particular is extraordinarily difficult to kill without sacrificing a Pokemon.

FDS · Sep 10th, 2008, 7:53:35 PM

I voted OU because of my agreement with many of the reasons stated on the first page of the "Would banning Garchomp from standard play even solve the problem?" thread.

Kevin Garrett · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:03:24 PM

I believe Garchomp is uber. It's an easy Pokemon to abuse since it's over powerful, which could be attributed to why it stayed in OU for so long. Its usage statistics over the months display its dominance. The suspect metagame has proven to be more balanced and exciting. Garchomp's absence hasn't affected the metagame in an extremely negative way. Counters for other sweepers have been emerging more because there is no longer a need to have an anti-Garchomp defensive core or revenge killer needed to prevent a mass sweep. The quality of play is enriched without Garchomp.

Hipmonlee · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:06:02 PM

Voted uber. I think I have explained why enough times.

Have a nice day.

**Elevator Music** · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:06:28 PM

I think Garchomp in a way ruins the competitive spirit of the game. It's definitely not as Uber as RBYMewtwo, but it's still enough to make the metagame less fun.

Since what the vote really boils down to is whether or not you like the suspect metagame more (as that's really the best way to determine whether Garchomp makes the game less competitive), I vote Garchomp to Uber.

Rag · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:06:45 PM

I voted Garchomp OU, mainly because I like our current metagame better then the suspect metagame.

Syberia · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:09:02 PM

Uber, no explanation needed. It speaks for itself.

***Aldaron**** · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:13:27 PM

Voted Uber.

ToF · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:21:18 PM

Voted uber for basically all reasons mentioned.

Truthi · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:23:32 PM

Voted Uber, done with chomp.

Gouki · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:31:00 PM

Voted Uber.

Loki · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:40:21 PM

voted uber

**kd24** · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:44:40 PM

voting uber for all of the reasons stated above and in jrrrrrr's post

Havak · Sep 10th, 2008, 8:49:25 PM

Voted OU.

Aeolus · Sep 10th, 2008, 9:19:57 PM

29 votes is the magic number

matty · Sep 10th, 2008, 9:24:40 PM

Voted Uber

Bologo · Sep 10th, 2008, 9:25:23 PM

I have voted for OU.

Farmer · Sep 10th, 2008, 9:29:05 PM

I voted uber for reasons all ready stated throughout this thread.

Stallion · Sep 10th, 2008, 9:45:40 PM

Voted OU

View Poll Results: Garchomp
OU	15	27.78%
Uber	39	72.22%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:22:09 PM	#1
Aeolus Bag Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,636 St. Louis	Garchomp Vote Vote. Explanations are welcome, but not required. 29 votes is the magic number. Last edited by Aeolus; Sep 10th, 2008 at 9:19:38 PM.

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:26:23 PM	#2
Articanus Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,002	I voted Chomp uber after a long time of discussing it with friends and frankly, myself. Why did I decide on uber in the end? Easy: the suspect metagame is so much more fun! __________________ Check out my blog! http://articanus.blogspot.com/

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:41:25 PM	#6
Limitless Success is the best revenge. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,377 Michigan	I kind of voted for OU, but I meant to vote Ubers... If someone could change that, I would appreciate it. However, if you can't that's fine too. __________________ YouTube Account: http://www.youtube.com/user/Arrow2you?feature=mhum#p/u

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:03:24 PM	#9
Kevin Garrett is a competitor Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,237 Passaic County, NJ	I believe Garchomp is uber. It's an easy Pokemon to abuse since it's over powerful, which could be attributed to why it stayed in OU for so long. Its usage statistics over the months display its dominance. The suspect metagame has proven to be more balanced and exciting. Garchomp's absence hasn't affected the metagame in an extremely negative way. Counters for other sweepers have been emerging more because there is no longer a need to have an anti-Garchomp defensive core or revenge killer needed to prevent a mass sweep. The quality of play is enriched without Garchomp. __________________

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:30:33 PM	#3
Jimbo it's a revolution, i suppose Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,572 New Jersey	Voted uber, all the reasons have been explained in depth yea.

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:41:22 PM	#5
Fishin Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,618	Voting uber. I honestly believe it's too close of a call for Chomp's status to be determined by any real sort of solid evidence. If something like Darkrai was allowed in OU, we'd find ways to get around it without losing our whole team, sure, but that wouldn't really change its status. Since Garchomp was allowed without (much) question from the beginning of D/P, I feel that "finding ways to get around it" is what we've been doing; Garchomp is just that much better than any other OU. To be honest, I'm actually going to miss it to an extent should it get banned since I prefer a heavily offensive metagame, but as far as balance goes I'm set in my belief that banning it is the best decision.

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:52:37 PM	#7
*Great Sage* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,872 Boston, MA Mentor	I voted Uber, for largely the same reasons as Fishin. Also, from experience, I've found that the Yache set in particular is extraordinarily difficult to kill without sacrificing a Pokemon.

Sep 10th, 2008, 7:53:35 PM	#8
FDS Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,525 CT	I voted OU because of my agreement with many of the reasons stated on the first page of the "Would banning Garchomp from standard play even solve the problem?" thread.

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:06:02 PM	#10
Hipmonlee Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,299	Voted uber. I think I have explained why enough times. Have a nice day. __________________

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:06:28 PM	#11
Elevator Music there is actually no underscore in my name Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,484	I think Garchomp in a way ruins the competitive spirit of the game. It's definitely not as Uber as RBYMewtwo, but it's still enough to make the metagame less fun. Since what the vote really boils down to is whether or not you like the suspect metagame more (as that's really the best way to determine whether Garchomp makes the game less competitive), I vote Garchomp to Uber. __________________

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:06:45 PM	#12
Rag Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 457	I voted Garchomp OU, mainly because I like our current metagame better then the suspect metagame.

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:09:02 PM	#13
Syberia Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,905 Irvine, CA	Uber, no explanation needed. It speaks for itself. __________________ Black/White Friend Code: 1721 2578 4968 My Pokemon \| Free Pokemon \| YouTube \| Wonder Cards (now with Movie Celebis for Platinum and HG/SS!)

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:13:27 PM	#14
*Aldaron Don't tell me what to do. Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,370	Voted Uber. __________________ beast mode

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:21:18 PM	#15
ToF Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,029	Voted uber for basically all reasons mentioned.

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:23:32 PM	#16
Truthi Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 170 yep	Voted Uber, done with chomp. Last edited by Truthi; Sep 10th, 2008 at 8:45:44 PM.

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:31:00 PM	#17
Gouki nice times all the times Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,281 montréal	Voted Uber.

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:40:21 PM	#18
Loki like seashells Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,934 Meeeeeeechigan	voted uber

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:44:40 PM	#19
kd24 Surprise Mother Fucker Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,769 HOME	voting uber for all of the reasons stated above and in jrrrrrr's post __________________ My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLemondrop7

Sep 10th, 2008, 8:49:25 PM	#20
Havak I'm the Best. You're a Towel. Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,279 Manchester, England, UK	Voted OU. __________________ UK VGC 2009 - Top 32 UK VGC 2010 - Top 32 UK VGC 2011 - Top 8 \| UK Nationals: 1-Up Events 2011 - Top 4 I chase the dream, not the competition.

Sep 10th, 2008, 9:19:57 PM	#21
Aeolus Bag Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,636 St. Louis	29 votes is the magic number

Sep 10th, 2008, 9:24:40 PM	#22
matty lyk dis if u cry evertim Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 290 3OH!3	Voted Uber __________________ WE _BLACK ____OUT

Sep 10th, 2008, 9:25:23 PM	#23
Bologo Have fun with birds and bees. Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,828 Brampton, Ontario	I have voted for OU.

Sep 10th, 2008, 9:29:05 PM	#24
Farmer Not about this life Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 409	I voted uber for reasons all ready stated throughout this thread.

Sep 10th, 2008, 9:45:40 PM	#25
Stallion Lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,662 Canberra, Australia	Voted OU __________________