Its_A_Random
A distant memory
I really thought we never needed to do this again, but we need to do something with Greninja. Again. The rationale behind this is that every time I go on IRC, I hear endless complaints from new users AND experienced users that Greninja is OP/broken and needs a nerf. When I ask why it needs a nerf, people bring up the following factors to it:
No one is saying we are going to murder Greninja to the depths of unviability with this. Heck, after the nerf, I still forsee it getting plenty of usage because even without Protean Greninja is still plenty viable. Also before people bring up Sableye et al and why Greninja is such a special snowflake, bear in mind that Sableye et al at least have reliable answers to them, you really cannot say this with Greninja because of its ability to change typing at will and ability to screw over any first order-set with ease, and this is why people have been complaining about Greninja as opposed to Sableye or Mega Gardevoir.
tl;dr, Greninja even after Mat Block nerf is still seen as an issue and we have to look at it again.
- "Impossible" to order first against / no reliable counters.
- Protean + Rare Candy.
- A blistering Speed stat.
- A wide array of coverage that gives it the tools it needs to deal with most targets as well as provide strong defensive capabilities.
- A very good array of supportive / disruptive moves.
No one is saying we are going to murder Greninja to the depths of unviability with this. Heck, after the nerf, I still forsee it getting plenty of usage because even without Protean Greninja is still plenty viable. Also before people bring up Sableye et al and why Greninja is such a special snowflake, bear in mind that Sableye et al at least have reliable answers to them, you really cannot say this with Greninja because of its ability to change typing at will and ability to screw over any first order-set with ease, and this is why people have been complaining about Greninja as opposed to Sableye or Mega Gardevoir.
tl;dr, Greninja even after Mat Block nerf is still seen as an issue and we have to look at it again.