BasePowerMons (edited, look at post #87)

[The Shellder Smuggler]

hollywood approved

Welcome to

BasePowerMons!

note: it will be extremely hard for your pokemon to stay alive in this meta

This metagame is standard XY OU, but has one rule that may completely change the viability rankings for it.

Each Pokemon retains its same movepool, abilities, and base stats. However, the moves themselves are changed completely. They each retain the same typing, but their base power change. For each letter there is in the name of a move that does damage, that move gets +8 Base Power. Spaces count.

For example, take Moonblast. It is normally base 95 power. However, in BasePowerMons, since it has 9 letters, it is nerfed to base 72 power. However, since Fire Blast is now being nerfed to a base 64, Flamethrower takes the spotlight as a new base 96 completely accurate move!

And well, then there's the base 56 power Thunder.

Also, since priority moves have very long names (Extreme Speed, Ice Shard, Quick Attack, etc.) they will be capped at base 80 power (which is strong for priority so argue about it), with the exception of Extreme Speed, which is now base 100 power to still give it a niche and due to its low PP as well as rare distribution.

STAB is still factored in, so a now Base 80 Fire Punch with STAB is basically a base 120 power Fire Punch.

Also, Hidden Power (now base 96) does not factor in what type it is. Hidden Power Fire will not be base 136 power.

Fixed damage moves such as Seismic Toss will now stay the way they are, but moves such as Gyro Ball will adapt to the new rule.

Threatlist

Aegislash (Base 88 Shadow Ball, Base 80 Shadow Sneak for priority, Base 96 Sacred Sword, and Swords Dance and Kings Shield)

Mega Manectric (Base 88 Thunderbolt, Base 88 Volt Switch, Base 96 Flamethrower, Base 88 Hidden Power Ice, as well as Intimidate)

Thundurus (Prankster Thunder Wave and Nasty Plot, complimented by Base 88 Thunderbolt)

Dragonite (Base 88 Dragon Claw, Base 80 Fire Punch, Base 100 Extreme Speed as well as access to Dragon Dance)
Mega Venusaur (Base 80 Giga Drain and Leech Seed)

Landorus (Base 88 Earth Power and Base 96 Hidden Power Ice)

Mega Medicham (High Jump Kick gg, Thunderpunch gg)

Talonflame (Base 240 Acrobatics, with STAB and the effect)

Banlist

OHKO Clause
Moody Clause
Sleep Clause
Endless battle clause
Uber Tier Pokemon

Possible suspects:

Aegislash

Heliolisk (Parabolic Charge)

Talonflame

I'm not sure where this playable yet, so for the moment, discuss!

 

[-Flygon-]

This is really cool dude! Really throws you for a loop huh? Dragonite is death, and Aegislash scares grown men into crying. Good luck with the meta! :D

 

[Throbulator36]

Twineedle: 90 BP dual hit move that can poison
Knock off: 90 BP to start
Leech life: 100 BP health drain move
Draining Kiss: 130 BP w/75% HP recovery and a wicked offensive typing. Wow. Much kill. Such overpower. Wow.

 

[EV]

Shellder Smuggler, what are you going to do about multi-hit moves? Water Shuriken comes to mind, as just about anything else. Bullet Seed, Rock Blast, Icicle Spear, heck even Comet Punch would have insane damage outputs.

 

[DoW]

What happens with multi-hit moves? I ask because icicle spear cloyster springs to mind, with a not bad rock blast and ice shard getting a nice boost as well.

Edit: Greninja'd by literally a half a minute at most.

 

[Valmanway]

Fury Cutter is a 110 BP attack that gets stronger with each consecutive use. Nerf, please.

 

[Arhops]

Rock Slide = 100 Base Power
Iron Head = 90 Base Power
Extrasensory = 120 Base Power
Close Combat = 120 Base Power
Knock Off = 90 Base Power (before the boost gg)
Freeze Dry = 100 Base Power (mamo swine will kill all the water)
V-Create = 80 Base Power Monte Cristo will not agree

Basically greninja has the craziest coverage now, and Charizard-X will eat your family with Dragon Claw and Thunder Punch.

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Shellder Smuggler, what are you going to do about multi-hit moves? Water Shuriken comes to mind, as just about anything else. Bullet Seed, Rock Blast, Icicle Spear, heck even Comet Punch would have insane damage outputs.

Dammit, I had a rule for those but forgot to put them in the OP, thanks for reminding me - they'll be capped at 30.

Valmanway Fury Cutter shouldn't be nerfed unless it becomes a problem when the server is up.

 

[FireArrow]

Shellder Smuggler, what are you going to do about multi-hit moves? Water Shuriken comes to mind, as just about anything else. Bullet Seed, Rock Blast, Icicle Spear, heck even Comet Punch would have insane damage outputs.

I'd imagine the power could just be the total power. For example, Bullet Seed is base power 110, which would be 22 per hit.

EDIT: Aww, I liked my idea better. ^^

 

[Throbulator36]

Fury Cutter is a 110 BP attack that gets stronger with each consecutive use. Nerf, please.

Still caps at 160 BP
Also 160 BP Parabolic Charge

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Still caps at 160 BP
Also 160 BP Parabolic Charge

Fury Cutter won't be nerfed

Parabolic charge probably will, but has really low distribution to even it out (kinda)

 

[Soul Fly]

Extreme Speed called. It's having an OP syndrome

EDIT: Draco Meteor's back to 120, so that's good news but useless, since Dragon Pulse provides the same BP without the SpA drop now.

 

[Valmanway]

Still caps at 160 BP
Also 160 BP Parabolic Charge

Ah, I forgot about that cap.

 

[RotomPoison]

Bad user bad idea bad meta

Stop encouraging the use of Dusknoir...

Also, RIP Surf ._. GG Thundershock...

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

Extreme Speed called. It's having an OP syndrome

Read the OP, I said it was capped at 100 due to the low distribution and type as well as low PP, while all the other priority moves are capped at 80 :p

 

[MoxieInfinite]

if you want shit to develop, dont make a threat list. let people figure out stuff themselves.

 

[Soul Fly]

That's no fun. You're making this more like a pet mod. For all you know it might be fine.

Whatever. Your meta, your call.

 

[Snaquaza]

Power-Up Punch has 130 BP and raises Attack, GG

 

[The Shellder Smuggler]

That's no fun. You're making this more like a pet mod. For all you know it might be fine.

Whatever. Your meta, your call.

TEG suggested I cap it, so I did, we'll see I guess

 

[Throbulator36]

aare dual hit moves gonna have a cap?

 

[Arhops]

Hyper Voice Gardevoir (110 Base Power) is probably gonna be a huge threat, and Gothitelle can kill pretty much anything with its crazy strong coverage too. Dazzling Gleam (130 Base Power) is now god coverage on everything too.

 

[Valmanway]

I'll just make a list of good moves to use here:

List Of Good Moves

Fury Cutter - 110 BP
Air Cutter - 110 BP
Ancient Power - 120 BP
Aurora Beam - 110 BP
Brick Break - 110 BP
Charge Beam - 110 BP
Dazzling Gleam - 140 BP
Disarming Voice - 150 BP
Dragon Breath - 130 BP
Dragon Claw - 110 BP
Drain Punch - 110 BP
Energy Ball - 110 BP
Extrasensory - 120 BP
Fell Stinger - 120 BP
Hidden Power - 120 BP
Infestation - 110 BP
Magical Leaf - 120 BP
Luster Purge - 120 BP
Pursuit - 70 BP, 140 BP against switching foe
Wing Attack - 110 BP
Acid Spray - 100 BP
Aura Sphere - 110 BP
Struggle Bug - 120 BP
Rapid Spin - 100 BP
Secret Power - 120 BP

Will work on this gradually.

 

[EV]

Ah, I forgot about that cap.

Rollout stronker. Starts at 70 and doubles for the next 5 turns. No Guard Golurk....
Ice Ball starts at 80, but has terrible distribution.

E:

if you want shit to develop, dont make a threat list. let people figure out stuff themselves.

You're right, a 7-Pokemon threatlist just gave everything away.... *rolls eyes*
Shellder Smuggler is just trying to give people an idea of what works in the new meta. Pretty standard in OMs.

 

[Arhops]

Dynamic Punch = 130 Base Power + Confusion Machamp will eat all your kids.

 

[DoW]

More good moves:

110 BP Ominous Wind is a Bug Buzz replacement I guess.
100 BP BubbleBeam or Muddy Water for Surf.
110 BP Fiery Dance means is still viable for Volc.
120 BP Flash Cannon (someone's probably already mentioned this).
110 BP Meteor Mash sounds interesting.
Will Nature Power be 120 or turn into Tri-Attack for 100?
120 BP Sky Uppercut and Zen Headbutt.
120 BP Land's Wrath, alongside 100 BP Espeed, perhaps Zygarde will be viable?

Edits:
Umbreon with 120 BP Synchronoise, OP. Meanwhile, Lick's base power has doubled!
120 BP Grass Pledge would be nice were it not for Giga Drain's boost.
Rollout's still a gimmick, but is it a usable gimmick now?