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Best Users of EVIOLITE
- Thread starter magnusmistro
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wheres munchlax? I swear that thing is beast with eviolite
Munchlax@Eviolite
252hp 252 def 4spd
bold
-toxic
-counter
-protect
-rest
Munchlax@Eviolite
252hp 252 def 4spd
bold
-toxic
-counter
-protect
-rest
that moveset sucks when you die to alakazam, one of the first things that you're supposed to win against. in fact, that moveset means that you die to roserade and nidoking as well, which is strange considering munchlax is supposed to be a special wall. and finally, snorlax exists with his way better offensive presence.
arguably speaking this brings nothing to the table, using this just makes me feel "god, chansey is like over 9000x better". i wouldn't mind eviolite munchlax but there really needs to be something that can distinguish itself from chansey/snorlax.
i'd probably suggest body slam/whirlwind/sleep talk/rest but idk if munchlax learns whirlwind to begin with
UU is technically in the top half of tiers, and it still has a considerable power creep, so it could be considered a higher tier. Munchlax just isn't gonna hang with pokes with better defenses when it can't hit hard like its big brother.
Well aware, which is why Munchlax won't see much use.
Cool sets
I am going to have to try out some of these. Surprisingly shelmet with eviolite is a great spiker and toxic stalker. Not sure if anyone said machoke yet but he works great as well
I am going to have to try out some of these. Surprisingly shelmet with eviolite is a great spiker and toxic stalker. Not sure if anyone said machoke yet but he works great as well
murkrow's defenses are horrible, they are like, 60/42/42 but murkrow IS a good user of eviolite
murkrow gets featherdance and roost so it gives off the impression of *decent defense*, unboosted + eviolite is like base 75.
but hey, murkrow's main use is prankster, i doubt without prankster it would even be mentioned.
but hey, murkrow's main use is prankster, i doubt without prankster it would even be mentioned.
I have a theoretical setup, now that I have a good place to put it I was wondering what you think of it.
Lairon @ Evolution Stone
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 0 Atk / 252 Def / 0 SAtk / 0 SDef / 4 Spd
Impish Nature/Rash Nature
- Iron Defense
- Metal Burst
- Head Smash
- Double-Edge???
the theory is quite simple. eviolite boosts defenses to very high levels, and a sandstorm boosts SpD even more. it plays as follows: switch into a non-threat forcing the switch. take advantage of the switch setting up iron defense. use available attacks as a potent-ish threat. the cool thing is it will draw counters hoping to take advantage of it's 4X weaknesses, but is tough enough to handle life orb lucario's close combat and metal burst nearly ko's or ko's back (I forget which). I am left with some questions though. 1) does an impish nature or a rash nature provide greater benefit to the set? 2)what should I put in the fourth slot, I simply don't see what would be best. 3) most importantly, how do eviolite and sandstorm stack? 4) would an alternative EV setup be better? any input would be appreciated as I am not all that familiar with this type of setting up.
Lairon @ Evolution Stone
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 0 Atk / 252 Def / 0 SAtk / 0 SDef / 4 Spd
Impish Nature/Rash Nature
- Iron Defense
- Metal Burst
- Head Smash
- Double-Edge???
the theory is quite simple. eviolite boosts defenses to very high levels, and a sandstorm boosts SpD even more. it plays as follows: switch into a non-threat forcing the switch. take advantage of the switch setting up iron defense. use available attacks as a potent-ish threat. the cool thing is it will draw counters hoping to take advantage of it's 4X weaknesses, but is tough enough to handle life orb lucario's close combat and metal burst nearly ko's or ko's back (I forget which). I am left with some questions though. 1) does an impish nature or a rash nature provide greater benefit to the set? 2)what should I put in the fourth slot, I simply don't see what would be best. 3) most importantly, how do eviolite and sandstorm stack? 4) would an alternative EV setup be better? any input would be appreciated as I am not all that familiar with this type of setting up.
Rash is terrible and nonsensical on that set.
Also there are much better physical walls than Lairon(mainly ones that don't die to incredibly common fighting attacks) and it's useless as a special wall due to it's stats. Offensive Roserade 2HKOs in even in sand.
Also there are much better physical walls than Lairon(mainly ones that don't die to incredibly common fighting attacks) and it's useless as a special wall due to it's stats. Offensive Roserade 2HKOs in even in sand.
the idea was actually to draw the counters and hit them hard with metal burst rather than actually wall anything, but point taken.
also I meant careful instead of rash, I was reading my chart backwards.
also I meant careful instead of rash, I was reading my chart backwards.
