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It's not even better on a sand team. Say both chansey and blissey are at full health and got hit by genesect's u-turn in a non sand environment
+1 252 Atk Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 214-253 (30.3 - 35.9%) -- 44.9% chance to 3HKO
+1 252 Atk Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 294-346 (41.1 - 48.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Assuming max rolls chansey is left at 64.1% and blissey will be left with 57.4% after leftovers. 6.7% difference
Now in a sand environment.
Assuming max rolls chansey is left at 58.1% after sand damage and blissey will be left with 51.4%. 6.7% diffference.
The myth about blissey being better in sand always baffled me because instead of blissey recovering 6% chansey loses 6% which for all intents and purposes are the same thing.
2 words: Knock OffThere is actually nearly zero reason to use Blissey instead of Chansey, which is better in almost every (relevant) way, but the beginning of the overview seems to imply otherwise. I would change it to something like: "Blissey is one of the only Pokemon in the game in the unfortunate position of actually being worse than its pre-evolution. Blissey is much worse than Chansey because of these reasons: (reasons). However, Blissey still has a small niche over Chansey, which is (niche)." There's very little reason to ever use Blissey when Chansey is available, and the analysis needs to reflect this (preferably in the first sentence or two).
Blissey arguably hates Knock Off just as much so the point is nearly irrelevant.2 words: Knock Off
The thing is, Knock Off is fairly easy to see coming and Chansey would never switch in on any of the common users of the move anyway. Furthermore, Blissey hates Knock Off almost as much as Chansey, since it takes away the only thing Blissey has over Chansey (Leftovers recovery).2 words: Knock Off
At least in terms of the set listed, Flamethrower is slashed with Heal Bell, so if you run Flamethrower, you lose the option of using Heal Bell. Obviously, you can run whatever you want, but I believe it's only a 20% chance of burn (I may be wrong). Plus, with Natural Cure, you can save Heal Bell's PP if you only need to cure status on Blissey.Flamethrower works well with Serene Grace, so how come it doesn't get a mention? Blissey can just use Heal Bell to get rid of status, and Blissey could definitely use the opponent's attack dropping due to it's low def compared to it's sp.def. So how come Serene Grace doesn't get a mention?
But Natural Cure only works upon switching out, so what if you want Blissey to stay in? 20% is pretty good, and you could go with ice beam even for the freeze. Also, status only be the case if the rest of your Pokemon are really slow and are Speciall Attackers. But I just don't think there's a point in running both, just like I don't think anyone should run Moxie and DD on Salamence, It's overkill.At least in terms of the set listed, Flamethrower is slashed with Heal Bell, so if you run Flamethrower, you lose the option of using Heal Bell. Obviously, you can run whatever you want, but I believe it's only a 20% chance of burn (I may be wrong). Plus, with Natural Cure, you can save Heal Bell's PP if you only need to cure status on Blissey.
Could you clarify?Also, status only be the case if the rest of your Pokemon are really slow and are Speciall Attackers.
But the question about Moxie and DD isn't about "overkill"; Salamence just isn't as effective running Moxie over Intimidate. Blissey is as effective, if not more so, using Natural Cure over Serene Grace. I'm not QC, so I can't say whether or not Serene Grace should get a mention or not, but I don't think Serene Grace is as useful on Blissey as you believe.But I just don't think there's a point in running both, just like I don't think anyone should run Moxie and DD on Salamence, It's overkill.
I get what you're saying about the name, but Seismic Toss is more important to run than Heal Bell.I know its done and all, but wouldn't it make more sense to slash Flamethrower with Seismic Toss? The only reason I'm saying is because it is called "cleric", but it isn't exactly a very good cleric if it isn't running any cleric moves, so it would instead be more of a special wall rather than a cleric without it.
Could you clarify?
Oh well, it was worth asking. Thanks.No. Blissey gets forced out enough for this to ever work well.