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Breeding Guide

Discussion in 'Archives' started by X-Act, May 28, 2007.

  1. X-Act

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    Part 1: Introduction to Breeding: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20653
    Part 2: The Breeding Guide: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20652
    Part 3: Probabilities to get Perfect IVs in EDP: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20650
    Part 4: Hidden Power Breeding: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20649

    First of all, I want to make it clear that this breeding guide is a joint effort between me and Peterko. Even though I posted Parts I and II and he posted Parts III and IV, all the parts were written together.

    Me and Peterko thought that Smogon deserves to have one of the best, if not THE best, breeding guide on the Internet. I think this guide took around a month to write... correct me if I'm wrong Peterko.

    There are a lot of people we'd like to thank for the realisation of this guide. Besides BobDoily and loadingNOW, which we have already given credit at the end of Parts I and II, we would also like to thank many people who have provided data for us, which are so numerous that it's impossible to list them all.

    If you find any mistakes (which there will probably be, given the sheer length of the thing), feel free to post. We tried to filter out many errors, but, inevitably, there will still be a few that we didn't manage to spot, so we'd appreciate if you notify us about them.
  2. Deucalion2

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    I'm not sure about this, but I thought if you bred a Miltank, the resulting baby could sometimes be Tauros, just like an Illumise can give birth to a Volbeat.
  3. X-Act

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    Miltank and Tauros can indeed breed, but their offspring will always be a Miltank. The only way to breed a baby Tauros is to breed a Tauros with a Ditto.
  4. Mekkah

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    All I can say is wow.

    And also...

    Magikarp can't get Dragon Dance, you'll need to evolve it into Gyarados first.
  5. X-Act

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    Fixed. Also fixed the link for my IV breeding probabilities applet, and the link for MetalKid's IV calculator, even though I'm told his site is down right now.
  6. Peterko

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    Yeah it took about a month, thanks for your help, X-Act


    by the way, I´ve been asked whether we´ve added info about the characteristics in D/P

    I´m not sure, but is the research finished? I found this topic

    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19279

    and it still doesn´t say whether it shows the random highest or in a particular order - if two or more are the same

    there´s no problem with adding that (section about how to find out the IVs of your Pokémon), but I´d like to know exactly how that works first before doing so
  7. X-Act

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    According to what I researched there, if two IVs are equal highest, the characteristic chosen between the two is random.
  8. Surgo

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    Hey this is pretty awesome, thanks a TON guys. Will go up on the site ASAP (when it's back).
  9. X-Act

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    I'm fixing the Level 5 stats of Part II so that they look a bit less messy right now.
  10. Terkhen

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    Awesome work! :)

    Just a thing I have noticed; in "The species of the baby", Phione and Manaphy info is missing.
  11. X-Act

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    Thanks Terkhen. I've just edited it with information about Manaphy and Phione.
  12. loadingNOW

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    cool it's finally finished :)
  13. X-Act

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    *bows in the direction of loadingNOW* Thanks a lot once again, man.
  14. Peterko

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    Yeah, thank you
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    I'm confused with how to use the Level 5 Stats for HP. Several of my Smeargles have 21 HP at Level 5 which is 5 more than the listed 17 for it. I did hatch them at level 1 and Rare Candy to 5, if that makes any difference.
  16. X-Act

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    Big whoops. You're right. Smeargle's maximum HP stat at Level 5 should be 22. Actually I need to fix the HP of every Pokemon... they need to be 5 more than those listed. Thanks!

    EDIT: They've been fixed now. I've doubled checked and now they're correct.
  17. Peterko

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    you´re right, actually I think all of the HPs are 5 less than they should be, X-Act will fix it as soon as possible, thnx karma thief
  18. X-Act

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    Lol, honestly that's one of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life. I was momentarily red-faced. Honest. Thank God I fixed it pretty quickly.
  19. Peterko

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    lol and I didn´t even check the list because I believed in your perfectionism :p (I take half of the responsibility)
  20. Sir Spanky

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    This is amazing, I hope you are both pleased/proud lol
  21. Mario With Lasers

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    I've said it before, but amazing work, guys. You'll be considered gods at smogon.

    BTW, could I translate this guide and post in another forum, obviously giving the right credits for you?
  22. Reflect Suicune

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    I tip my hat to X-Act and Peterko, this is an excellent guide.
  23. Vagabond Aeon

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    all tits for X-Act and Peterko
  24. Deucalion2

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    You ought to be modded for this, and given a medal, and maybe a even commemorative statue.
  25. cresselium

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    Although this may not seem like much, I do appreciate the time and effort that you two have put into this mega-guide. So thank you, this was REALLY helpful. :)

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