Wow this is great Agnaktor! \o/ thank you thank you thank you!
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Breeding Perfect Pokemon in Pokemon X&Y
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Sprocket
P(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n
Well done! This is insanely useful.
Between the first page info, your chart, and this calculator... why is this thread not a sticky already? lol
Sprocket
P(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n
Luck has everything to do with it. Since there are 25 natures you have a 1/25 shot of getting the correct nature without using an Everstone. Not outside the realm of possibility, but definitely not recommended if you can avoid it.
One thing I find very interesting after looking at this calculator is this:
#1. Breeding parents 31/31/31/x/31/31 and 31/31/31/x/31/31
IV Spread Distrubution (no modifiers)
IV SpreadChance
31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 0.5208%
31 / 31 / 31 / xx / 31 / 31 18.7500%
#2. Breeding parents 31/31/31/x/31/31 and 31/31/31/31/31/31
IV Spread Distrubution (no modifiers)
IV SpreadChance
31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 1.8229%
31 / 31 / 31 / xx / 31 / 31 17.4479%
#3. Breeding parents 31/31/31/31/31/31 and 31/31/31/31/31/31
IV Spread Distrubution (no modifiers)
IV SpreadChance
31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 3.1250%
31 / 31 / 31 / xx / 31 / 31 16.1458%
so if I understand this correctly, this means that it is more efficient to breed #1's parents to get 31/31/31/xx/31/31 than #2 and #3, right?
Not really. the chance of getting 31/31/31/x/31/31 OR BETTER remains the same in each case. The only difference is the ratio between chance of flawless vs. chance of perfect. I would say you're better off going for the higher flawless chance. No matter what, in all 3 cases, you have a 19.2708% chance of getting 31/31/31/x/31/31 or better.
hmm ok that makes since, cuz even tho the chance of getting perfect w/ perfect parents is higher than with flawless parents, the chance you could get a flawless w/ flawless parents makes up for it. thanks!
Ok, so im aiming for a 5 iv ferrothorn (IVs all maxed except speed) and so after awhile of breeding, Ive gotten a 4 iv'd ferroseed (31/31x/31/31/x). Now im trying to get a ferroseed with Def and whatever else ivs I can get to increase chance. So should I breed a ferroseed with as many other max Ivs I can get or does it matter? Also, once I do get desired Def ferroseed, should I use power item when breeding it with 4 Iv'd ferroseed? Thanks in advance
Unless you don't care about nature, you're usually best off breeding without the power item after the initial stages.
If you have it, I would breed your Ferrothorn with something else in the egg group that has at least 31/31/31/31/31/x. If not, just make sure that whatever you breed it with has 31 in Defense and as many other IVs as possible Sooner or later, you'll hatch a perfect 5-IV Ferrothorn baby. If that Ferrothorn baby is female, you can replace your current Ferrothorn with it to streamline the process in the future.
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Okay. I only have 1 female clauncher with 3 perfect IV's at the moment. I've been trying to breed her with some of my 5 IV male binacles I have, but so far it's been a bad match no matter who I put with her (don't seem to like each other). How do I make them produce eggs quicker? I have a decent male clauncher, but he only has 4 good IV's.
They will be more likely to produce eggs with Pokemon obtained through trade, especially internationally, or through Pokemon of the same species.
lmitchell0012
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So you're saying that no matter what male (binacle) I put in there with her, they will ALWAYS hate each other??
Not at all. Say for example, I trade you a male Binacle. Since that Binacle as a different OT, my male Binacle would get along better with your female Clauncher than your current Binacle does. If my Binacle was in a different language, they would get along even better than if I just gave you a same-language Binacle. Lastly, if you breed your female Clauncher with a male Clauncher, they are the same species, so they will get along as well.
lmitchell0012
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Ok. I think I was just getting unlucky with these claunchers. I managed to get a 5 IV female (flawless in everything but defense). I have a 3 IV male that is flawless in HP, defense and speed so I put them together. Even if I give the female the knot the male still has a chance to pass down the defense IV's correct?.
Correct, the Destiny Knot guarantees that 5/12 IVs (there are 6 possible IVs for each parent) will be passed down.
Sprocket
P(n) = 1 - (1 - P(1))^n
Egg
Same OT, different species: 20% every 256 steps
Same OT, same species: 50% every 256 steps
Different OT, different species: 50% every 256 steps
Different OT, same species: 70% every 256 steps
Getting the Oval Charm increases the ratios to 40%, 80%, 80%, 88%
So the fastest way to produce eggs is to have two Pokemon of the same species but different OTs, and to get the Oval Charm.
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So wait...With all curent changes to breeding, it's actually possible to breed flawless shiny pokemon through somewhat reasonable means?
I was wondering this since I obtained a japanese goomy with decent eggmoves and 31 sp def, and I wondered if I could breed a shiny one with good IV's.
I was wondering this since I obtained a japanese goomy with decent eggmoves and 31 sp def, and I wondered if I could breed a shiny one with good IV's.
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Ah, thanks, I'll look into it.
i feel like i am just the worst breeder out there.. i am quickly losing interest in this stuff. i have a 3IV protean male froakie in with a 3IV ditto, the ditto is HP, Atk, and Def, and the froakie is HP, Atk, and Speed. I will eventually get a 4IV froakie, correct?
Correct. Eventually (after enough tries) you will get one with 31/31/31/x/x/31.
One way to greatly increase the speed of breeding is to get a female (Froakie, in this case), regardless of IVs, and then breed it with a father in the same egg group (Water 1 and Water 3 for Froakie) that has 5 or 6 perfect IVs.
Froakie is hard to breed though, because it has a 87.5%/12.5% male/female ratio.
are my chances better doing the HP, Atk, Speed froakie with a Def and SpDef ditto? to get to a 4IV mon
Breeding with the first Ditto, you have a 9.3750% chance per egg to hatch a 4-IV Froakie.
Breeding with the second Ditto, that chance is reduced (slightly) to 8.3822% per egg. So no, you're better off breeding with the first Ditto.
This calculator should tell you everything you need to know.
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