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This was a discussion in the NFE topic which wasn't really relevant, so I wanted to continue it here.
Sorry about the crit rate, my bad. Gliscor is immune to TBolt...
Noctowl can NEVER pose a threat to your opponent in the way Gligar can. It cannot keep taking stuff like Quake+Edge early to mid game and clean up in the end with SD. And really, it was stupid of me to look at its Attack stat, but you really shouldn't compare those 2 Pokemon.
I never said Hypno would fucking beat Noctowl in a battle(now theres a stallfest!), I said it would beat the shit out of it at special walling, taking hits much better, providing wish support, not being excessively weak on the physical side and having an overall better typing.
You were the one who gave Noctowl as an example of one of the many similarly bulky Pokemon, not me....
And Wobby really isn't UU at any rate, once it comes in on something that isn't Ghost or Fighting, that thing is going down.
And Steelix is really a terrific physical wall, despite being EQ weak, 200 base Def is great. Its low special defense and average attack sort of let it down though. But with its awful speed, Gyro Ball becomes really powerful, but since nothing in UU is really THAT fast, its BP won't usually exceed 70-80.
You're wrong about the crit chance, it's actually 12%. Also, "fucking" 25BP versus 20% accuracy doesn't make rock slide useless. In fact, there are some pokemon who would prefer 100% accuracy (in fact, this is the whole thunderbolt versus thunder argument, and honestly, that is a 30% difference and they chose accuracy over power. Also a 25 BP difference there. 20% accuracy is better, but you realize that rock slide has a 30% chance to crit, so some pokemon like the accuracy over power)
What are you talking about? You began comparing them, and what are you even trying to say? You're comparing two pokemon in two different roles. Your first witty comeback stated that noctowl had 50 base attack. Well he doesn't use that stat, and you were comparing two pokemon from two different roles. If you actually knew anything, you'd know that noctowl can take UU boltbeam like a champ and roost it all off. Also, throwing a special wall against a special wall makes no sense. If noctowl knew whirlwind (which it probably would) I don't see how hypno can beat noctowl, considering as it also has insomnia. Not to mention you're making an argument similar to "heracross sucks because weavile can kill it with aerial ace!!!!" Wow, one pokemon might be able to beat it!!! Shut up.
I mean seriously. You haven't done the calc's for boltbeam (not to mention gliscor is also weak to boltbeam) and for rock "noctowl clearly won't be staying in" and your argument makes no sense. So get over it.
Sorry about the crit rate, my bad. Gliscor is immune to TBolt...
Noctowl can NEVER pose a threat to your opponent in the way Gligar can. It cannot keep taking stuff like Quake+Edge early to mid game and clean up in the end with SD. And really, it was stupid of me to look at its Attack stat, but you really shouldn't compare those 2 Pokemon.
I never said Hypno would fucking beat Noctowl in a battle(now theres a stallfest!), I said it would beat the shit out of it at special walling, taking hits much better, providing wish support, not being excessively weak on the physical side and having an overall better typing.
You were the one who gave Noctowl as an example of one of the many similarly bulky Pokemon, not me....
And Wobby really isn't UU at any rate, once it comes in on something that isn't Ghost or Fighting, that thing is going down.
And Steelix is really a terrific physical wall, despite being EQ weak, 200 base Def is great. Its low special defense and average attack sort of let it down though. But with its awful speed, Gyro Ball becomes really powerful, but since nothing in UU is really THAT fast, its BP won't usually exceed 70-80.