Gen V PU - NU in NU

Discussion in 'Other Metagames' started by Detective Dell, May 19, 2012.

  1. PeterTheHegemon

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    I've been experimenting with Shelgon/Kecleon as my defenses.

    Shelgon has a wealth of resistances and has access to recovery via wish. Can tank those powerful hits from Rampardos and the like.

    Kecleon's Special Defense is insane and I think that people really underestimate his ability. Choice specs/scarf users like the 3 monkeys or rotom are forced to switch out since their hits suddenly become ineffective. He also has recovery and access to stealth rock. I like to run Knock Off on him because eviolite users are so common.

    Though the duo has an obvious weakness to dragons, since once Kecleon is hit by a dragon move they suddenly because super effective.
  2. JacobNinja

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    I've found parafusion krow to be able of beating pretty much everything
  3. vyomov

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    Shiftry with Sun is amazing, after a Growth things are pretty much over
  4. Captain

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    Has anyone had any success with using gabite defensively?
  5. JoshuaMunoz

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    Physically defensive Gabite could work, as it has really good bulk with Eviolite and Rough Skin. Pair it up with a Specially Defensive resistant to ice and there's a core right there.
  6. Harbinger of Peace

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    Although this may not be the best set, I find using an offensive Corsola to be quite interesting, and it's also fun to use, no matter how gimmicky it may seem.
    Corsola, the Destroyer!


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    Corsola @Choice Band
    Ability: Hustle
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Sdef
    Adamant Nature
    - Rock Blast / Stone Edge
    - Icicle Spear
    - Sucker Punch
    - Earthquake

    With an Adamant nature, max Attack EVs, and a choice band, Corsola has 532 attack. Although Corsola is a poor pokemon in general, with mediocre speed and middling speed, attack is nothing to mess with. Although this set is rather gimmicky, it can be a ''Monster'' and something that will really catch your opponent off guard. (This set does a lot better in trick room btw)

    WARNING: Due to amazingly high power levels of this set, I reccomend you use with care and with great caution.
  7. OceanicLanturn

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    I started PU yesterday. I loved it. AndI love this set. It's actually pretty good against leads.

    Furret @ Choice Band
    Trait: Frisk
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature
    - Trick
    - U-Turn
    - Return
    - Fire Punch

    I'm having some trouble with Scarfed Rotom-F, since it's pretty fast. Does anyone have any good solutions except like, the cats?
  8. Harbinger of Peace

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    @Oceanic Lanturn

    Simisear and Rapidash can outspeed Rotom-F and KO it, and Specially defensive Flareon and Camerupt can wall it and resist its blizzard. I believe Regigigas can wall it, too. (Regi is so bulky in PU.)
  9. WhiteDMist

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    Um he already said that he had trouble with Scarf Rotom-F. Neither Rapidash nor Simisear typically uses Choice Scarf, so they are always outsped. The other Pokemon you mentioned are far more reliable in checking Rotom-F, and you can always run your own Rotom-F (not always the best idea). Just beware of Trick. It is actually pretty tough to stop Rotom-F without defensive Pokemon, which doesn't really bode well for offensive teams. However, by having something immune to Volt Switch, you can also restrict the momentum that it generates. Keeping up Rocks is a great idea as well, since it means that it can only come in 5 times max. Priority is always useful to keep it contained, though you'll have to look hard for a decent priority user that works with your team.
  10. Emerld Shuckle

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    Woops, didn't see that date of the OP. That's what happens when you just learn about something today. You think it was created today.

    Anyway, has anyone had any success with Combusken?
  11. TalkTakesTime

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    I'm unsure if anyone has done this already but I can't be bothered sorting through the thread trying to find the same post, so if I am just repeating then I do apologise.

    Just thought I'd show the PU mons sorted by their base stats. This doesn't include those NFEs that are viable, simply because I didn't feel like going through the list and picking out the ones that are usable. However, if anyone wants to suggest any I should include then just let me know and I'll update it.

    Sorted by HP (open)
    Code:
    Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 
    
    Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
    Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
    Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
    Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
    Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
    Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
    Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
    Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
    Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
    Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
    Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
    Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
    Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
    Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
    Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
    Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
    Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
    Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
    Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
    Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
    Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
    Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
    Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
    Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
    Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
    Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
    Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
    Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
    Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
    Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
    Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
    Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
    Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
    Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
    Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
    Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
    Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
    Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
    Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
    Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
    Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
    Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
    Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
    Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
    Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
    Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
    Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
    Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
    Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
    Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
    Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
    Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
    Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
    Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
    Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
    Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
    Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
    Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
    Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
    Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
    Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
    Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
    Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
    Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
    Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
    Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
    Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
    Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
    Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
    Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
    Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
    Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
    Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
    Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
    Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
    Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
    Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
    Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
    Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
    Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
    Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
    Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
    Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
    Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
    Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
    Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
    Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
    Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
    Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
    Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
    Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
    Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
    Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
    Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
    Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
    Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
    Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
    Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
    Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
    Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
    Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
    Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
    Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
    Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
    Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
    Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
    Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
    Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
    Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
    Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
    Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
    Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
    Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
    Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
    Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
    Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
    Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
    Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
    Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
    Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
    Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
    Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
    Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
    Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
    Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
    Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
    Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
    Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
    Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
    Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
    Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
    Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
    Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40
    


    Sorted by Attack (open)
    Code:
    Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 
    
    Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
    Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
    Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
    Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
    Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
    Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
    Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
    Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
    Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
    Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
    Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
    Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
    Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
    Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
    Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
    Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
    Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
    Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
    Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
    Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
    Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
    Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
    Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
    Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
    Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
    Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
    Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
    Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
    Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
    Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
    Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
    Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
    Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
    Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
    Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
    Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
    Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
    Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
    Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
    Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
    Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
    Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
    Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
    Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
    Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
    Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
    Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
    Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
    Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
    Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
    Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
    Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
    Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
    Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
    Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
    Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
    Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
    Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
    Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
    Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
    Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
    Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
    Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
    Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
    Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
    Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
    Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
    Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
    Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
    Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
    Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
    Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
    Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
    Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
    Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
    Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
    Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
    Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
    Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
    Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
    Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
    Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
    Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
    Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
    Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
    Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
    Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
    Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
    Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
    Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
    Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
    Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
    Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
    Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
    Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
    Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
    Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
    Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
    Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
    Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
    Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
    Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
    Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
    Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
    Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
    Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
    Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
    Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
    Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
    Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
    Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
    Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
    Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
    Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
    Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
    Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
    Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
    Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
    Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
    Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
    Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
    Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
    Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
    Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
    Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
    Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
    Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
    Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
    Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
    Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
    Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
    Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
    Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
    


    Sorted by Defense (open)
    Code:
    Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 
    
    Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
    Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
    Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
    Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
    Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
    Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
    Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
    Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
    Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
    Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
    Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
    Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
    Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
    Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
    Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
    Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
    Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
    Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
    Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
    Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
    Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
    Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
    Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
    Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
    Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
    Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
    Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
    Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
    Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
    Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
    Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
    Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
    Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
    Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
    Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
    Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
    Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
    Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
    Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
    Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
    Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
    Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
    Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
    Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
    Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
    Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
    Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
    Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
    Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
    Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
    Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
    Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
    Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
    Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
    Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
    Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
    Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
    Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
    Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
    Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
    Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
    Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
    Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
    Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
    Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
    Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
    Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
    Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
    Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
    Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
    Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
    Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
    Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
    Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
    Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
    Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
    Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
    Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
    Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
    Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
    Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
    Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
    Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
    Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
    Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
    Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
    Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
    Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
    Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
    Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
    Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
    Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
    Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
    Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
    Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
    Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
    Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
    Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
    Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
    Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
    Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
    Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
    Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
    Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
    Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
    Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
    Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
    Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
    Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
    Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
    Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
    Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
    Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
    Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
    Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
    Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
    Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
    Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
    Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
    Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
    Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
    Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
    Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
    Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
    Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
    Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
    Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
    Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
    Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
    Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
    Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
    Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
    Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
    


    Sorted by Special Attack (open)
    Code:
    Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 
    
    Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
    Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
    Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
    Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
    Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
    Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
    Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
    Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
    Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
    Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
    Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
    Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
    Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
    Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
    Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
    Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
    Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
    Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
    Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
    Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
    Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
    Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
    Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
    Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
    Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
    Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
    Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
    Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
    Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
    Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
    Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
    Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
    Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
    Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
    Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
    Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
    Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
    Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
    Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
    Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
    Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
    Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
    Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
    Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
    Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
    Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
    Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
    Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
    Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
    Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
    Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
    Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
    Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
    Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
    Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
    Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
    Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
    Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
    Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
    Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
    Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
    Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
    Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
    Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
    Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
    Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
    Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
    Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
    Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
    Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
    Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
    Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
    Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
    Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
    Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
    Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
    Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
    Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
    Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
    Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
    Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
    Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
    Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
    Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
    Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
    Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
    Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
    Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
    Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
    Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
    Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
    Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
    Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
    Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
    Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
    Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
    Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
    Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
    Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
    Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
    Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
    Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
    Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
    Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
    Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
    Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
    Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
    Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
    Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
    Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
    Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
    Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
    Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
    Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
    Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
    Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
    Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
    Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
    Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
    Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
    Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
    Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
    Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
    Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
    Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
    Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
    Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
    Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
    Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
    Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
    Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
    Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
    Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
    


    Sorted by Special Defense (open)
    Code:
    Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 
    
    Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
    Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
    Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
    Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
    Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
    Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
    Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
    Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
    Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
    Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
    Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
    Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
    Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
    Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
    Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
    Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
    Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
    Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
    Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
    Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
    Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
    Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
    Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
    Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
    Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
    Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
    Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
    Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
    Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
    Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
    Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
    Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
    Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
    Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
    Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
    Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
    Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
    Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
    Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
    Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
    Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
    Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
    Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
    Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
    Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
    Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
    Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
    Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
    Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
    Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
    Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
    Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
    Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
    Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
    Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
    Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
    Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
    Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
    Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
    Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
    Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
    Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
    Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
    Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
    Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
    Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
    Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
    Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
    Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
    Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
    Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
    Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
    Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
    Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
    Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
    Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
    Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
    Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
    Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
    Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
    Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
    Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
    Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
    Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
    Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
    Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
    Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
    Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
    Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
    Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
    Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
    Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
    Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
    Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
    Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
    Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
    Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
    Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
    Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
    Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
    Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
    Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
    Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
    Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
    Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
    Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
    Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
    Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
    Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
    Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
    Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
    Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
    Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
    Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
    Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
    Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
    Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
    Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
    Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
    Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
    Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
    Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
    Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
    Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
    Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
    Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
    Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
    Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
    Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
    Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
    Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
    Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
    Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
    


    And finally, the one I think is probably most useful to have:
    Sorted by Speed (open)
    Code:
    Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 
    
    Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
    Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
    Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
    Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
    Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
    Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
    Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
    Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
    Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
    Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
    Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
    Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
    Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
    Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
    Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
    Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
    Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
    Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
    Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
    Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
    Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
    Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
    Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
    Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
    Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
    Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
    Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
    Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
    Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
    Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
    Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
    Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
    Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
    Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
    Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
    Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
    Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
    Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
    Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
    Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
    Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
    Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
    Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
    Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
    Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
    Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
    Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
    Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
    Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
    Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
    Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
    Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
    Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
    Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
    Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
    Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
    Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
    Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
    Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
    Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
    Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
    Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
    Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
    Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
    Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
    Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
    Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
    Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
    Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
    Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
    Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
    Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
    Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
    Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
    Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
    Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
    Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
    Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
    Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
    Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
    Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
    Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
    Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
    Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
    Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
    Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
    Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
    Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
    Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
    Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
    Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
    Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
    Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
    Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
    Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
    Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
    Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
    Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
    Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
    Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
    Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
    Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
    Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
    Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
    Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
    Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
    Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
    Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
    Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
    Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
    Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
    Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
    Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
    Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
    Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
    Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
    Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
    Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
    Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
    Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
    Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
    Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
    Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
    Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
    Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
    Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
    Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
    Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
    Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
    Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
    Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
    Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
    Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
    Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
    Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
    


    Looks like bases 50, 65 and 70 are the ones to aim to creep.
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    From what I see, outspeeding base 67 (Fraxure) is a must on any average Speed Pokemon, since letting it get a free Dragon Dance is likely to be fatal. The next significant Speed tier would be base 70, since most of thee Pokemon actually run max Speed (unlike the base 50s and 65s) and are likely to boost their Speed). If you want to consider the lower SPeed mons, then I'd say consider them at +1 and +2, since their natural Speed is too poor otherwise. Base 80 and 85 are very pivotal to keep an eye on, with stuff like Stoutland, Golduck, Shiftry and Arbok all being very powerful threats that all teams must keep an eye on when facing. Of course, one must never turn their back on the Pokemon with Speed higher than the 85s, since they are the main targets for your Choice Scarf Pokemon to outspeed (and most of them rarely use Choice Scarf).
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    So I decided to give this tier a spin on more a whim then anything else, and I've had a lot of fun with it thus far n_n I would have to agree with those that have said the tier is rather diverse, despite a fairly obvious offensive skew to the metagame their are an array of feasible 'mons and playstyles to work with, and besides some ubiquitous 'mons like Rotom-F there isn't even much to talk about in terms of "over centralization" (yeah, Fraxure and such are threatening, but not overbearing imo). That said, I've been having a lot of fun with heavy offense, particularly dual screens offense, since the tier sports 'mons such as Linoone and Swoobat that in my mind are practically the epitome of high risk, high reward sweepers, both having managed to nearly solo entire teams with some maneuvering. Oh, also Solrock is way too cool to not be seeing the light of day, suicide screens is really cool and being the one of the few defensive 'mons that can spread burns, heal itself, and repeatedly check 'mons such as Dodrio, Rapidash, and more is really chill :<
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    Hey, I know the PU list updates with every other tier every three months, but why doesn't the PU list update with the NU usage stats every month? Wouldn't that make more sense? Some pokemon have dropped in usage since April, enough to make them PU. But, they're still considered NU according to usage stats from over a month ago. I think changing the PU list would be very good now, because PU is the metagame of the month. I hope the PU list can update, because there's a certain pokemon I'm itching to use, but can't...
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    Well after playing this tier after it being part of the OM of the Month I learned quite a bit about this metagame.
    I sort of found out that it's very easy to be successful in this tier if you use the top tier threats such as Golduck, Jumpluff etc. I made it into the top 10 quite easily with out much prediction involved, DC's and Time outs on my part
    This tier wasn't as diverse as I had thought but it's rather enjoyable and I loved running dual poison with Arbok + Seviper. I found that they worked strangely well with one another
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    Keiran has given ownership of this thread to Agent Dell. Let us welcome our new overlord PU leader!
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    Congrats, Agent Dell! I'm loving the work you've been doing with the Viability Ranking, and have faith that you will moderate PU towards great success!

    Kudos, :]
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    haha good shit Dell. You have definitely shown that you have the ability to lead PU. Great job, looking forward to seeing more.
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    I, for one, welcome our Dell overlord.

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    Sorry Ive been looking around and cant seem to find the answer... Where should I go to start battling in this tier?
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    whoops i never noticed that there thanks
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    I've been playing this metagame a lot recently, and if I may put it brashly, would like to gain some improvements on my team currently. (Although revitalizing this specific thread doesn't hurt.)

    My team is based around Rain Dance, and utilizes a few threats who IMO underrated. I would sincerely appreciate some comments!

    Team (open)
    Phione @ Damp Rock
    Trait: Hydration
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Calm Nature
    - Rain Dance
    - Rest
    - Scald
    - Heal Bell
    Beartic @ NeverMeltIce
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Aqua Jet
    - Icicle Crash
    - Swords Dance
    - Stone Edge
    Mawile @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Iron Head
    - Substitute
    - Metal Burst
    - Baton Pass
    Parasect @ Leftovers
    Trait: Dry Skin
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature
    - Spore
    - Leech Seed
    - Synthesis
    - X-Scissor
    Pelipper @ Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Hurricane
    - Scald
    - Roost
    - Rain Dance
    Camerupt @ Leftovers
    Trait: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Calm Nature
    - Lava Plume
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earth Power
    - Will-O-Wisp


    My concerns currently are that it is too defensive; Mawile does not do anything but gain momentum(which is handy, but I'm unsure if there is a better set); Mawile's set is really guess work like really help me with that; Camerupt was only placed as a tentative choice to help beat Rotom-F; if the sets themselves may be bettered (especially concerning items and such).
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    You are right in that your team is very defensive; it is too defensive for a strategy that lasts 8 turns before costing you most of your momentum. Mawile doesn't seem to have much of a role on your team either, since it is at best a pivot. The fact that a standard Life Orb Golduck or Bulky SubCM Golduck can tear through so much of your team is also a major problem. The first thing I must say is that you should switch Mawile for standard Rain Dance Volbeat, who not only sets up Rain, but also provides a slow U-turn and provides Thunder Wave and Encore support to hinder Golduck a bit. Beartic wants Superpower to deal with anything that can take Icicle Crash and Aqua Jet as well. Parasect and Pelipper seem to be huge momentum killers, but I am loathe to suggest replacing both of them. Out of the two, Parasect seems to be the least useful to you since Leech Seed is much too slow for your team. In order to make some more use of the Rain, as well as provide another possible offensive check to Golduck, a Choice Scarf Raichu with Thunder looks to be one of a few possibilities. Pelipper should have an EV spread of 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD (why on earth are those 4 EVs in atk?) if you insist on being defensive (though I am in favor of maximizing power and then HP). For Phione, it should have at least 80 Speed EVs in order to outpace Adamant Rampardos so that you can Scald/Rain Dance before it hits you with Head Smash.

    There are other ways you can go about this like putting rocks on Mawile and switching Camerupt for Volbeat instead, but this isn't a rate. This is just to point out that Rain teams need to be on the offensive side if they wish to be at their best potential.

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