We can battle tomorrow and I show you that ur calcs are so bs cuz ur theorymoning and a real battle is sometimes/often different and I wouldn't pair it with the Keys. Wobbu is better
Well the point is that SD Ray is a wallbreaker first, and I was showing what Ray could do to probably one of the best physical walls Ubers had to offer. The idea of SD Ray is that it doesn't have a real cleaning move to utilize (Seriously dont use Outrage on SD Ray), but has that nuclear V-create to destroy almost any wall in the tier. However, due to V-create's drawbacks, Rayquaza cannot use its most powerful tool to sweep. So, the next best thing is to have it break walls in order to pave the way for
other sweepers. SD Ray is just another offensive support mon for sweepers to work with, not the sweeper itself. I'm not saying that Klefki is required, but it is a good partner to help Ray break walls easier. Klefki in general is a really awesome utility mon in general, and it and Ray's support combined can put a lot of pressure on Defoggers and walls, in addition to making the way clear for sweeps like a GeoXern sweep, or primarily sweepers that dislike Steel-types. SD Ray isn't and should never be the centerpiece of a team, just a wallbreaker that assists a sweeper. Having a crapton of support like Sticky Web for a support member isn't that great of an idea imo instead of support for a sweeper. This situation also applies for MixQuaza, whose role is a lure.
On the other hand, DD Ray really does like Wobb, as Ray now IS the sweeper unlike SD Ray and MixQuaza. Wobbuffet allows Ray a possible setup opportunity, and can remove support Arc formes easier than Ray can with a +1 V-create. Also, Wobb can scout out possible Scarfers that could revenge kill DD Ray mid-sweep, in addition to Fairy-types. DD Ray does have a sweeping tool in Outrage, and with the adapted meta, it can also function outside of it with V-create and ESpeed, at the cost of only being able to use Outrage to clean. Wobbuffet in general partners well with sweepers, and even though Ray needs a setup turn, it shouldn't be supporting SD Ray because it simply can't clean unless the team is extremely weakened, unlike DD Ray who can clean relatively easily due to Outrage.
Imo, most calcs are theorymonning. There are chances that something can't get a boost, therefore making a calc invalid. Maybe you didn't pressure the Defogger enough, it removes the single layer of Spikes and kills your hazard setter. I'm just showing what Ray can do when specific conditions are met, which it can defeat Groudon after just 1 SD and 1 layer of Spikes, in which EKiller can't do that. Hell, maybe SD Ray is assisting EKiller in defeating the Groudon so EKiller can sweep. Getting up a layer with Spikes with Keys isn't that hard, and its typing works well with Ray, can deter Xerneas, and has awesome support moves to further assist its team. Since both have a common goal and the two of them can scare away threats that the other can't handle (Keys scares away Fairies and Defog Arc, Ray scares away Steel-types), and just bc a battle can turn up differently doesn't mean you should pair a wallbreaker with something that supports sweepers.
Also you forget that my horrible battling skills prevent me from actually proving a point.
