Let's all stop using Gyarados to sweep and instead use it as a Sleep Talker. Nattorei makes for an excellent partner for Gyarados, resisting it's weaknesses in Electric- and Rock-type attacks while Gyarados resists Fire- and Fighting-type attacks.
Does Flamethrower get the same 2HKOs? If so, I'd use that for anti-miss purposes.Fire Blast is an option on Gyarados for Nattorei. Even Adamant Gyara manages a 2HKO on Nattorei with SR and LO.
Gyarados@Life Orb
Adamant; 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Waterfall
Fire Blast
Stone Edge
Dragon Dance
It crisps Nattorei and Tangrowth for a solid 2HKO, as other Grasses (Celebi, Shaymin) are really nowhere to be seen this gen, so it gets the nod over Ice Fang I guess.
You can't use a -SAtk nature and it needs about 176 SAtk (stat, not evs, so 80 probably taken from speed, as long as you outspeed Tyranitar before D-Dance it's good) to have a good chance of 2 hit koing max/max Nattorei and other Nattoreis always with Flamethrower.Does Flamethrower get the same 2HKOs? If so, I'd use that for anti-miss purposes.
Except that Nattorei will eventually win out against bulky Dragon Dance Gyrados because of no recovery and since it isn't intimidated, Power Whip is a likely 3 hit ko while Gyrados doesn't even with +3 Waterfall without rain at if Nattorei has any defense.On the other hand, Gyarados can simply carry taunt and nab another dragon dance in the face of Nattorei anyway. =/
I assume Dragon Dance/Waterfall/Earthquake/Stone Edge? You need Taunt to prevent Thunderwave/Roar (or take out Nattorei first) and Waterfall/Earthquake is resisted by a number of things that are threatening.Couldn't you just run Earthquake instead of Fire Blast/Bounce?
I haven't seen any Tangrowth, so I don't feel like it's a problem.
Lanturn and Gyarados work amazingly together.From peoples experience does the old electric immune ability combination work or is team preview too much
It might get the 2hk0 on physically bulky, but care to take a look at other scenarios?:Fire Blast is an option on Gyarados for Nattorei. Even Adamant Gyara manages a 2HKO on Nattorei with SR and LO.
Gyarados@Life Orb
Adamant; 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Waterfall
Fire Blast
Stone Edge
Dragon Dance
It crisps Nattorei and Tangrowth for a solid 2HKO, as other Grasses (Celebi, Shaymin) are really nowhere to be seen this gen, so it gets the nod over Ice Fang I guess.
Thanks Saint :)Lanturn and Gyarados work amazingly together.
Like your mom was.I leik gyrados is gud pokemon
i think it is just you, gyarados ran the same set WITHOUT moxie last generation and totally dominated. what nature are you running? adamant or jolly, Adamant may give you the power you want.Is it just me, or is the offensive Moxie dragon dancer pretty much useless outside of rain. It just doesn't hit hard enough. I found with the bulky dancer I could often get two DDs which allow Gyara to hit decently hard while being able to check many fighting types.