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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by mingot, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Morbz

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    (Copied from my previous post) I am using Diamond version here. I got the IVs that I needed, but it is not a shiny. Why is it not shiny? I ticked the shiny tab with my ID and SID (also it got the !!! shiny symbol in the RNG reporter) but did not show up. Thanks.
  2. Setosama

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    UPDATE:

    Decided to say F**K KECLEON and skip Banette and Move on to Absol... Absol's RNG process seems to be working just fine. o.O

    I wonder what was making Kecleon so difficult.

    ...ok. maybe might go back for Banette.
  3. ShadowMonkey

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    Is there a guide anywhere for PID abuse in Emerald? If so, is it possible to get flawless method 1 spreads, that are also shiny? (for the legendaries of course)

    I know it's supposed to be difficult, but I don't have access to HGSS for the RSE legends, and I already have emerald.

    Also, when using the 4th gen time finder to find a PID for TID/SID abuse, I can't find any flawless IV spreads that are both lonely and have HP Fire. Does this mean it is not possible to get a flawless HP fire giratina (cause that's what it's for)?
  4. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    something in your game, is doing something weird, just hit it tried 30min ago

    shadowmonkey
    check hozu sig

    EDIT
    31/31/30/30/31/30

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    In 3gen at best near flawless
  5. ShadowMonkey

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    i don't think that's quite what im looking for, in his sig anyways

    so emeralds only good for cloning masterballs huh? :(
  6. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    oh, according Hozu retail sid abuse on emrald a no-no
    emerald good for
    breeding
    lower frame on some method 1 frames then r/s
    mew
    dexoys
    other stuff
  7. ShadowMonkey

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    ok then.

    what about the 4th gen TID/SID abuse? i know there is a guide but the spread i wanted does not show up on RNG reporter..
  8. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    31/30/31/30/31/30- No
    31/31/30/30/31/30 - Yes
    Pid is tied to IV so not there is a restriction on some nature and IV combination, hozu and/or a mod and/or someone who knows alot more about the mechanics, like fisheman p can tell you more
  9. ShadowMonkey

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    Cool beans. forgot the IVs could swapped around a little and still get the same hidden power.

    thanks
  10. DDyPhoenix

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    I am doing RNG on my Pokemon Platinum and had something odd come up.

    For the seed I want to hit, I have a frame of 114, but method J says none, method J sync says 71, and method J sync f? says none. Does that means I need to do a sync or can I just shoot for frame 114? Please advise, thanks!
  11. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    Are you using pokrng?
    If so, use the rngreporter

    If not and you are using the reporter, plz provide seed.

    By the way you describe it you must have a sync pokemon and the frame will be 71 instead of 114, but again I need the seed

    Also when it says none that mean that pid/iv spread is unavailable at the method

    i.e (just a random created data timid 31/1/31/1/31/1)
    Method J: None - not available
    Method J Sync: 70 -available with sync at 70
  12. Hozu

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    Frame 114 w/o sync or frame 71 w/ sync. One or the other.
  13. DDyPhoenix

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    Answered my own question.
  14. Colossus

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    Trying to capture Regigigas in Diamond
    Seed is 0C0E02C2, frame is 77, delay is 692
    Verified seed- HHTHTTHTTHTHTHT
    Adamant Nature, Characteristic good perseverance
    Advanced frame by switching between one that only had "flew to snowpt" and one with a caught bibare (night)
    Gigas was supposed to have 31//31/17/31/31/31
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    Ok...and your result was?...
  16. Morbz

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    Also in the spread it has the !!! symbol for a shiny, but no shiny came.:pimp:
  17. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    Please post ID and SID
  18. Morbz

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    TID: 61316
    SID: 53848

    Found my SID through Find SID from Chained Shinies in the 4th Gen Tools of RNG Reporter 9.96.5 BETA.
  19. honchkro13

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    I am trying to RNG an ID/SID combo of 59214/15852 for a PID of 8EFB545D in SoulSilver. I am following this guide, post #2. I am aiming for a delay of 5000 with a seed of 65131395. I am also searching in the year 2013 (all the numbers I listed here except for the PID are generated in Pandora's Box in RNG Reporter).

    I am confused about when to take an action for the first timer. Am I supposed to press A at the "Press Start" screen (where Lugia is swimming underwater) when the first timer reaches 0? Or am I supposed to soft-reset instead when the first timer reaches 0 after I am already in the game and the game wants to explain the controls (just like in pretty much every other 4th gen RNG)?
  20. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    That seed does not yield a shiny naughty, 31/31/28/0/29/31 with that SID/ID combination, henceforth way you're not getting shinies

    You soft-reset when the first timer hit zero
    You press A on the second timer when oak says "ill see you later"
  21. honchkro13

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    Just did that and plugged the ID I got into Pandora's Box to see what delay I actually hit. I set the search frames from 4000-6000. Only 1 result showed up, and it had a value of 3 seconds instead of the target second of 0 that I am going for. Can you tell me why that happened? Apparently, I hit a 5153 delay, which is a whopping 153 delays off from my target 5000.

    Should I just update my EonTimer with the 5153 delay, even though in Pandora's Box it corresponds to a 3 second target and not a 0 second target?
  22. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    According to ever stone
    You must subtract 3 from your target second to hit the actual target second

    Edit read under bullentin 3
  23. honchkro13

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    So I'm good then, since, lol, 3-3=0?

    Just out of curiosity, how do I change my target second from 0 to something else? I can't find an option to do that in Pandora's Box.

    Thanks for all your help!

    EDIT: 5153 is a lot farther than I expected from my target of 5000. I've already got my calibrated delay and second from a previous save file. I'm guessing this giant offset is because at the beginning of a new file, we haven't done stuff like showing Elm the Togepi egg, showing Pokerus and defeating the Elite Four to make RNGing easier?
  24. DarkChaos (HCZ)

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    Either look for a time in pandora that have a target second of 3 then input 0 as the target second in eontimer
    Or
    in eontimer input your target second as 57, to hit target second 0

    It's best to do the first one, in my opinion but your free to do either


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    By subtract 3, I meant from eontimer not pandora, ie change your target second to 57 instead of 0
  25. honchkro13

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    I've expanded the min/max frames in Pandora to 4000-10,000. Everything is still has a target frame of 0. Other than expanding the min/max frames, do you know another way to find seeds with a target second other than 0, preferably 3 like you said?

    I also tried 57 in Eontimer instead of 0 just once, and ended up with a target second of 1. I'll try again with 57 and if it still doesn't work, I guess I'll try 56.

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