Zapdos can't use wish though.. so it depends what you want. Wish can be extremely helpful, not just to sweepers but especially to support members or walls that lack recovery.
Zapdos also has 90/85/90 Defenses, as opposed to Jolt's 65/60/95 defenses. With your spread, Jolteon has 334 HP, 209 Defense, and 271 Special Defense. Zapdos achieves those defenses using 52 HP, 0 Defense (and he still beats it by 7 points), and 220 Special Defense, with a Neutral SpD Nature. This gives him 236 other EVs and his Nature to further bolster his defenses, Special attack (which is already higher as well), or Speed (which already hits 472 after one Agility, which outspeeds scarfed Pokemon up to positive base 90s/neutral base 100s).
So you switch something that can cope with the move in question in. Pursuit is the real problem I've found- Pursuit leads that are faster get basically a surefire win.
Lead Uxie
Uxie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/194 Def/64 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Stealth Rock
- Memento
- Thunder Wave/Reflect
This Uxie works as a set-up machine. Trick in the 1st turn incapacitate Stealth Rock/Spikes user, forcing the opponent to switch. Set Stealth Rocks during the switch and paralyze the next Pokemon with Thunder Wave. Memento gives the next Poke a free turn to set-up whatever you want. Stealth Rock or Thunder Wave may be replaced by Rain Dance/Sunny Day/Trick Room for Weather/Trick Room based teams
Uxie great defensive stats allows him to take some hits while using Stealth Rock and Thunder Wave. He can survive a Pursuit from a Choice Banded Tyranitar expecting a switch, paralize him and drop his attack with Memento. 64 Speed Evs allows Uxie to reach 399 Speed with Choice Scarf, outspeeding everything not scarfed (except Ninjask and Electrode)
Taunt leads stops this, but Trick will force the opponent to switch.
Memento let the next Pokemon get a free-turn to set-up, Azelf's Explosion is quite predictable, most players will switch in a ghost or steel type when they see Azelf is going the explode. Memento affects ghost types too.
This takes too much prediction to use, and uses Outrage for Blissey alone. You have to predict the switch to Blissey, and if anything else switches in, you're locked into a fairly weak Outrage and easy to pick off. A Sub Calm Mind Latias would almost always be a better choice, as Blissey without S-Toss can't touch Latias once you have a sub and a few CMs. You're also missing 6 EVs.
Name: Mixed Latias
-Outrage
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Earthquake / Thunderbolt / Grass Knot / Recover
Item: Life Orb
EV's: 252 Atk/252 Spe
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Hasty
At first glance, you would probably ask: "Wait, can't Salamence do this better?"
Well, no. Have you ever seen a mixed Latias? even if you did, it would probably be one in a houndred. The whole deal here is the element of surprise. This thing is meant to be a wall breaker, beating Blissey and denting phisical walls with no big problem and paving the way for your sweepers to do their job.
First, play this like a usual LO Lati, firing off Draco Meteors and scouting the opponent's team. Don't do this too much though, since a smart opponent will see the somewhat lacking damage from your special attacks.
Then, when your opponent least expects it, fire off Outrage on his SpD Walls. Her Outrage will do 47.06% - 55.46%to max HP & Def Bold Blissey, a OHKO with SR damage. Her Surf still does enough to badly damage most bulky grounds, even with no SpA envesment.
Earthquake deals with unsuspecting Heatran, Jirachi, Magnezone and Empoleon, but if you want to do some good damage to bulky waters, Thunderbolt is for Gyarados and Grass Knot is for Swampert, and both will help with the 'LO Latias' bluff. If you want some healing to make use of her bulk, Recover is an option.
*Well, what do you think? Trust me, this thing works really well in the right hands.
Props to this guy for coming up with this. I've been trying out this lead on my alt on shoddy and it's actually been pretty successful as an anti-lead, although I tried it out as originally suggested and had to make a few changes to suit my playing style. Here's my suggested spread:Lead Empoleon
@ Leftovers / Chople Berry
Modest
EV: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 6 Speed
Hydro Pump / Surf
Ice Beam / Aqua Jet
Grass Knot
Stealth Rock
Dig means that Ninjask will most likely be taking a hit to his terrible defenses after he emerges from underground unless you can force a switch. I would go for protect.Toxic Stall... Ninjask?
Ninjask@Leftovers
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Jolly
EV's: 252 Spe / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Toxic
Substitute
Baton Pass
Dig / Protect
Ninjask has amazing base 160 speed AND speed boost, which lets him become a very effective speed passer. However, that is this not it's only niche. Having access to toxic AND substitute, Ninjask is the fastest toxi-staller in the game. Baton Pass is to pass speed boosts that were accumulated through the stalling process. The 4th move on this set is up for debate. While protect works completely fine for stalling for speed and damage, Dig allows you to stall effectively WHILE having an attacking move.
ninjask will just bp away to the right counter. though bulletpunch will p'ably knock ninjask out of the park
On the turn that they switch to the steel type, Ninjask would be setting up a Sub so it can pass at least 1 speed boost. Not too many Pokemon know Bullet Punch besides Scizor, Metagross, and Machamp (who rarely runs it).
You're forgetting Lucario who gets BP, but even if he doesn't use it, you still have Extremespeed for priority.
What does this do better than Charm Bliss? Charm lowers Attack two stages, which is twice as good as raising you own Defense by one. Defense Curl Blissey also loses the ability to force switches it would have if using Charm, and forcing switches is a valuable ability for a stall team. Blissey usually switches in and out a lot during a battle, and therefore loses its defensive boosts. What do the EVs accomplish, as well?I wrote up an analysis for a defense curl Blissey, but it got taken down within minutes for being a gimmick set, but let me tell you that on stall teams, it is incredible. It went like this:
Pokemon Name:Blissey
Moveset Name: Defense Curl
Move 1: Defense Curl
Move 2: Softboiled
Move 3: Toxic
Move 4: Flamethrower
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature(s): Calm
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Def / 108 SpA / 56 SpD
This thing is a stall beast. It can always take a Scizor's Superpower after one Defense Curl and OHKO back with Flamethrower 100% of the time. This works best (and almost exclusively) on stall teams. Flamethrower is for the steels that are immune to Toxic. Heatran, Phazers, and Guts Machamp both give this set huge problems but if they are out of play, this can stall out the whole game.
First of all, I don't see the item, though I guess it's Damp Rock.
Don't be so sure. With a crapload of defense EV's such as the ones on the dedicated speed passer set in the analysis, Ninjask can live an LO-boosted Bullet Punch/Extremespeed/whatever.
Run 166 HP/ 240 Defense / 100 Spe. Ninjask will never survive a special attack, ever, and 4 Defense EVs reduces more damage from physical attacks than 4 HP EVs. However, with 4x resistance to Close Combat its Subs should survive, it will also be able to take a priority attack without an instant KO (Vacuum Wave, the only special priority attack is 4x resisted). You do not need Max Speed on Ninjask, EVER. Unless there is a reason you need to survive Max Speed Choice Scarf Lucario on the first turn, it is utterly pointless. My listed EVs give you 419 speed, which outspeeds all Adamant Salac/Scarf Lucario.Toxic Stall... Ninjask?
Ninjask@Leftovers
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Jolly
EV's: 252 Spe / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Toxic
Substitute
Baton Pass
Dig / Protect
Ninjask has amazing base 160 speed AND speed boost, which lets him become a very effective speed passer. However, that is this not it's only niche. Having access to toxic AND substitute, Ninjask is the fastest toxi-staller in the game. Baton Pass is to pass speed boosts that were accumulated through the stalling process. The 4th move on this set is up for debate. While protect works completely fine for stalling for speed and damage, Dig allows you to stall effectively WHILE having an attacking move.
Well, you have to constantly keep charming in order to keep that effect up, but if you defense curl, you've got the plus defense until you decide to switch out. Doesn't depend on your opponent at all.
I edited my post with your suggestion. I should point out now that the advantage Crobat has over Aerodactyl is that it isn't weak to Bullet Punch. Metagross is one of the most common leads in my experience, so that is a great selling point in the current metagame.
On Stall teams, though, isn't it one of the team's goals to force switches? Either way, Charm accomplishes what you want. If the Physical switch-in doesn't switch out, it has to fight at half attack and will likely get stalled out. If it does switch, the opponent's next Pokemon takes entry hazard damage. Defense Curl both lowers the opponent's attack relative to your defense by less than Charm does, and also doesn't have the switch-inducing potential of Charm.
