Response to billy's #717:
I'm happy you liked my post. The reason I explained my strategy about the inactive users was because picking on easy targets has been bandied about quite a bit (by you, actually, so that's consistent with your less relentless approach, and so I can't say I'm particularly bothered by it) in this game and because I want everyone to keep it in mind, incidentally. I'm curious though as to why you're happy for me to attack the idlers and not yourself, when in fact that happens to be your usual modus operandi (I don't have a village MO really except from RTMs). I can think of a few reasons but would not like to put words in your mouth.
I agree with your assessment that we should still keep pressure on them while not twisting things against them.
Response to Yeti's #719: I'm interested that you suspect billymills is neutral. While I agree he is coming across as one, you're also pursuing the UncleWolf theory (and so am I to an extent). I'm not quite sure how to explain this yet but interesting definitely.
Both Yeti and billymills did a pretty good job of defending themselves (not that they were really under fire or anything) and I can't find any real issues other than what I have mentioned, but then again I would be shocked if either dropped anything that could be really used against them. Please don't keep them out of your thoughts though guys, even you newbies, since like Yeti pointed out the combined task of prodding idlers and pressing active people is a bit tough to juggle without being ADD. In fact it would kill two birds with one stone if the inactives came out of their hiding places and posted what they thought about the active users, wouldn't it?
Interesting reads too and I thank you for the input. Not you though, Crux, because you suck >:(
I would like to mention that I think the lynch candidate conversations are important at the moment in light of the impending deadline (hence my first post dealing with Cereza), and hope my posting my opinions on other users will not divert the conversation since surely we all can multitask until we have a cardflip (vote count from Spiffy would be nice too, but it's been asked for). As such I'm not 100% sure about Yeti asking everyone to post about her; we certainly do, and I accept that she needs the data for her reads, but would like to remind everyone else to keep both discussions flowing as possible. I know full well this doesn't need to be said for the active users but with the deadline coming up a lot of the game still hasn't voted or committed to anything.
I disagree entirely that #641 contained enough information, since clearly several of us are still confused. However I will accept you do not want to talk about your role as none of us should and drop the issue. Returning to #641 though:The reason I asked people to be specific in what they wanted explained is this post. You're just being lazy. I have explained all those things in detail, some many times. If you want information about items or my voting, scroll up to the top of the previous page. 641 has opinion on the lynch, as well as all the info you are going to get about the items. No you aren't getting more because you don't need it. If there is serious suspicion based on my item claims, then I am completely fine with explaining more, the problem is there isn't.
Please clarify for us poor subs.Furthermore I had a misread on someone and realised it shortly before the lynch,
I'm happy you liked my post. The reason I explained my strategy about the inactive users was because picking on easy targets has been bandied about quite a bit (by you, actually, so that's consistent with your less relentless approach, and so I can't say I'm particularly bothered by it) in this game and because I want everyone to keep it in mind, incidentally. I'm curious though as to why you're happy for me to attack the idlers and not yourself, when in fact that happens to be your usual modus operandi (I don't have a village MO really except from RTMs). I can think of a few reasons but would not like to put words in your mouth.
I agree with your assessment that we should still keep pressure on them while not twisting things against them.
OK, fair enough. Frankly I don't think being buddied is anything to be scared of if you're town as long as you're smart enough to recognise it, which is why UncleSam and Blue_Tornado bother me (and if you think about it really they're quite similar as far as accusatory nature, paranoia about buddying, and defensiveness go... UncleSam's reaction to kingofkongs strikes me as quite similar to B_T's reaction to Crux).If you want to buddy me go for it, but don't think it will make you pass under my radar.
Response to Yeti's #719: I'm interested that you suspect billymills is neutral. While I agree he is coming across as one, you're also pursuing the UncleWolf theory (and so am I to an extent). I'm not quite sure how to explain this yet but interesting definitely.
Both Yeti and billymills did a pretty good job of defending themselves (not that they were really under fire or anything) and I can't find any real issues other than what I have mentioned, but then again I would be shocked if either dropped anything that could be really used against them. Please don't keep them out of your thoughts though guys, even you newbies, since like Yeti pointed out the combined task of prodding idlers and pressing active people is a bit tough to juggle without being ADD. In fact it would kill two birds with one stone if the inactives came out of their hiding places and posted what they thought about the active users, wouldn't it?
Interesting reads too and I thank you for the input. Not you though, Crux, because you suck >:(
I would like to mention that I think the lynch candidate conversations are important at the moment in light of the impending deadline (hence my first post dealing with Cereza), and hope my posting my opinions on other users will not divert the conversation since surely we all can multitask until we have a cardflip (vote count from Spiffy would be nice too, but it's been asked for). As such I'm not 100% sure about Yeti asking everyone to post about her; we certainly do, and I accept that she needs the data for her reads, but would like to remind everyone else to keep both discussions flowing as possible. I know full well this doesn't need to be said for the active users but with the deadline coming up a lot of the game still hasn't voted or committed to anything.
MK Ultra (3) - askaninjask, Jalmont, zorbees - MK is unique in that he hasn't been subbed yet, and in fact I just saw him in this thread while I was crafting one of my last monster posts and he disappeared again despite apparent majority being on him (though it may have shifted to Cereza).
j-squared (2) - Rediamond, Blue_Tornado - Still highly suspicious of Ditto but like I said in my analysis I am happy to observe j^2 and press him a bit more to get more evidence in light of Ditto's bizarre stunt, so won't be voting him today unless he does something particularly egregious.
Quagsires (2) - Paperblade, kingofkongs - I will be so disappointed if Quagsires turns out to be what he says he is, but I can't help but find it too suspicious that he checked LEETHOOF of all people (then aska to an extent, but somewhat justified since aska was on his case), the timing of his claim, etc. Only real thing I see in his favour other than that watery AC claim is that he hasn't defended himself at all and lol that's pretty shaky. I find it oh so suspicious how he repeatedly emphasised announcer shouldn't claim in context of his actions.
billymills (1) - Snike - Snike took his vote off billy anyway, but I find billymills far less suspicious than most of the users here and am unwilling to remove his input from the game at this stage based on shaky evidence Snike has since retracted and billy refuted somewhat. Am wondering a little if billy is doing the item thing for show though.
loudkirbyking (1) - jumpluff - Like I said lkk didn't exactly clean himself in my eyes, but it was a pressure vote and I removed it according to those terms. lkk is on a similar level to all the inactives I called out except he's showing himself just a little more than the rest, so while suspicion remains he's not particularly distinctive in my eyes (possibly what he's trying to ensure).
DetroitLolCat (1) - billymills - I think this could be interesting and do not trust the Lady Lolcat train at all, but feel that the potential for yield of this lynch is outweighed by the risk. Also I think billy moved his vote back to Cereza.
Cereza (1) - Leethoof - Has a lot more votes now, I'm certainly on board with this and would be happy to move my vote to it as evidenced by my last post on Cereza as well as my comments about her in other posts. A highly revealing lynch, and I'm willing to say I would be surprised if she flipped town; the UncleSam wagon was weak at first but UncleSam just kept digging himself into a hole as far as I'm concerned.
Leethoof (1) - Empoof - This user confuses me. It is tantamount to voting an inactive in my opinion and if there's an inactive I'd want to lynch it's MK Ultra, as I'm not too sure. Leaning town so won't be voting Leethoof.
Meanwhile my vote is on Brammi since he hasn't defended himself since his rematerialisation, but if the votes get close again and I happen to be awake, I will maybe endorse my preferred lynch that actually has support since the worst possible outcome of this lynch other than like lynching certain PRs is a no lynch.
j-squared (2) - Rediamond, Blue_Tornado - Still highly suspicious of Ditto but like I said in my analysis I am happy to observe j^2 and press him a bit more to get more evidence in light of Ditto's bizarre stunt, so won't be voting him today unless he does something particularly egregious.
Quagsires (2) - Paperblade, kingofkongs - I will be so disappointed if Quagsires turns out to be what he says he is, but I can't help but find it too suspicious that he checked LEETHOOF of all people (then aska to an extent, but somewhat justified since aska was on his case), the timing of his claim, etc. Only real thing I see in his favour other than that watery AC claim is that he hasn't defended himself at all and lol that's pretty shaky. I find it oh so suspicious how he repeatedly emphasised announcer shouldn't claim in context of his actions.
billymills (1) - Snike - Snike took his vote off billy anyway, but I find billymills far less suspicious than most of the users here and am unwilling to remove his input from the game at this stage based on shaky evidence Snike has since retracted and billy refuted somewhat. Am wondering a little if billy is doing the item thing for show though.
loudkirbyking (1) - jumpluff - Like I said lkk didn't exactly clean himself in my eyes, but it was a pressure vote and I removed it according to those terms. lkk is on a similar level to all the inactives I called out except he's showing himself just a little more than the rest, so while suspicion remains he's not particularly distinctive in my eyes (possibly what he's trying to ensure).
DetroitLolCat (1) - billymills - I think this could be interesting and do not trust the Lady Lolcat train at all, but feel that the potential for yield of this lynch is outweighed by the risk. Also I think billy moved his vote back to Cereza.
Cereza (1) - Leethoof - Has a lot more votes now, I'm certainly on board with this and would be happy to move my vote to it as evidenced by my last post on Cereza as well as my comments about her in other posts. A highly revealing lynch, and I'm willing to say I would be surprised if she flipped town; the UncleSam wagon was weak at first but UncleSam just kept digging himself into a hole as far as I'm concerned.
Leethoof (1) - Empoof - This user confuses me. It is tantamount to voting an inactive in my opinion and if there's an inactive I'd want to lynch it's MK Ultra, as I'm not too sure. Leaning town so won't be voting Leethoof.
Meanwhile my vote is on Brammi since he hasn't defended himself since his rematerialisation, but if the votes get close again and I happen to be awake, I will maybe endorse my preferred lynch that actually has support since the worst possible outcome of this lynch other than like lynching certain PRs is a no lynch.