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NU Permanent Weather Starter Experiment (updated with part 2)

Discussion in 'OM Archive' started by LibraSnakes13, Mar 25, 2012.

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  1. aim2game


    Feb 26, 2011
    Hey, I was curious what the results of the tourneys where!
  2. Arcticblast

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    Nov 29, 2008
    Comparing Amoongus to Ferrothorn.

    Scarf Kyruem Blizzard versus max/max+ Amoongus: 75.46 - 89.35%
    Scarf Kyurem Blizzard versus max/max+ Ferrothorn: 36.07 - 42.89%
    Scarf Kyurem Hp Fire in neutral weather versus max/max+ Ammongus: 29.62 - 35.18%
    Scarf Kyurem HP Fire in neutral weather versus max/max+ Ferrothorn: 56.81 - 67.04%

    Hippowdon Earthquake
    ...versus max/max+ Amoongus - 43.51 - 51.38%
    ...versus max/max+ Ferrothorn - 35.79 - 42.61%
    ...versus max/max+ Gliscor under Gravity - 36.44 - 43.22%
    ...versus 240/216+ Swampert: 41.89 - 49.37%

    Landorus Earth Power
    ...versus max/max+ Amoongus: 37.03 - 43.98%
    ...versus max/max+ Ferrothorn: 35.22 - 41.47%
    ...versus max/max+ Jellicent: 33.41 - 39.35%
    ...versus max/max+ Eviolite Chansey: 12.78 - 15.05% (for the lulz)
    ...versus 252/0 Espeon with Light Screen up: 30.53 - 35.92%

    252 Naive LO Tornadus Hurricane versus max/max+ Amoongus - 94.9 - 112.5%

    Amoongus may not be at the top of the pack, but what I believe sets it apart is the typing. Poison isn't bad as a defensive typing, and being neutral to Earthquake only helps.
  3. bluemon


    Oct 21, 2010
    those calcs are hardly fair.

    you cant just use blizzard since amoonguss is SE to it.

    if youre going to do that, use conkeldurr's drain punch or terrkaion's close combat, too
  4. tehy

    tehy Banned deucer.

    Aug 16, 2010
    The reason people use gastrodon is the ability to 100% wall certain pokemon. The bulk helps, and so does the boost, but that's the main reason to use him. Show me some common pokemon in NU amoonguss hard-walls. I admit it's a good mixed wall, and spore is nice, but that doesn't make him a good comparison to gastrodon.

    As for the comparison;kind of weird, but the point wasn't SE attacks to bias against ferro or he wouldn't have used hurricane. It was just to show random bulk, i suppose? More revelant calcs are necessary IMO.
  5. LibraSnakes13


    Feb 7, 2012
    Hey everyone, sorry for the wait but the first post has been updated to include the second tournament. The third one will be updated soon.
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