Other OU Teambuilding Competition V4 - Round 14 (ORAS TEAMBUILDING) See post #156

[CZ.]

OU Teambuilding Competition​

Given by A Terrakion, who was given by Nog, which was previously approved by Subject 18 and Gary2346.

Hey everyone. This is the again revamped XY OU version of the Teambuilding Competition! I (CZ.) will be running and updating this thread weekly. Let me explain how it works briefly and then we can get started. It was run last generation by Remedy and George Eliot, then this gen by Subject 18, Gary2346, Nog and A Terrakion. I will be taking over responsibility. This is my first thread and I'm pretty excited to bring this to all of you.

Team building is a really important part of the game. It rewards creativity and intelligence, unlike actual battling which rewards luck and mindless offense; which is why I felt like the Overused forum could use a new team building game. Past CCAT threads are cool but they fall down in trying to get us to cooperate, basically. Therefore, I'm throwing cooperation out the window. Here's how it works.

Every round, I will be picking a core of two Pokémon or typings. Then you clever team builders go away and then come back with a completed team. Once entries are closed, the community will vote on which user's team was the most innovative and well put together, the winner gets the honour of having their name and entry immortalised in this original post, and then we move on to the next round. Hopefully we can also get some good discussion going during the process about the teams submitted and the core itself.

Rules

- Entry Submission: Okay, a team importable in HIDE tags coupled with a description of your team building process is the minimum here. Pictures are really helpful. Everyone must PM me the team they are wishing to submit and I must approve it before it can be posted, note that teams posted without an approval will be removed immediately. You may go back, redo and resend it as many times as you would like, but I will only approve if the team is at a high enough caliber for this thread.

- Disputes / Copying: Obviously, there is potential for disputes over copying or people making similar entries. In general, if your team entry has the same Pokémon and similar move sets to an earlier entry, it will be disqualified. If anyone tries to abuse this by reserving an early post in the thread for their entry, please bring it to my attention and they'll be disqualified.

- Discussion and Team Changes: One part of the process is to have discussion about the teams and the core. While I'd like to keep this from being a speedy RMT thread, suggestions of improvements to entered teams are allowed. In the interests of fairness though, I'd ask that any suggestions don't involve anything more major than move set changes, and that if you've already submitted a team you won't change the Pokémon in it. Basically, just be sure that you're happy with the team before you send it in.

- No Bandwagoning : Simple rule: try to not support someone simply because you recognised his nick or because he/she has a shiny trophy.

- Users who won a round will have their vote's value doubled.

Old Thread

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ou-teambuilding-competition-v3-round-10-teambuilding.3509486/

Time for an example, and it just so happens to be our Round 9 winner, Tokyo Tom. Now, say the two Pokémon chosen are Mienshao and Charizard X. An entry should look like:
(Credit to Tokyo Tom)

Explanation

This is a team I made originally for the Mawilite Suspect Ladder, revolving around Mienshao to scout items and beat common leads at the time (such as SashMamo, Breloom, SashChomp, or SR setters like Landorus-T and Ferro etc.), and Charizard-X which is probably the most broken Mega left in XY OU. HP Ice Mienshao and EQ Latios pushed significant damage on DD Zard-X's premier counters, Landorus-T and Heatran, opening the way for Zard-X to potentially sweep lategame. Additionally, the core of Mienshao / SpexKou / ScarfLando-T offered a fast VoltTurn chain that could easily break down the opponents checks with very little prediction and Stealth Rock support from one of the sturdiest SR setters in the game, Ferrothorn. The concept began as a fun team but the team did see some success as Ben Gay used it to peak #1 on the Mawilite Suspect Ladder, and was one of the teams he used to peak #1 more recently on the actual OU ladder, during the first cycle of the Smogon Ladder Tournament. Overall, a neat little offensive team focused on luring threats and keeping momentum to wear down the opponent, opening them up for almost any of the Pokemon to clean up lategame.

Importable

Dark Fantasy (Charizard-Mega-X) @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 88 HP / 216 Atk / 204 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Outrage

Devil in a New Dress (Mienshao) @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 32 HP / 232 Atk / 244 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 30 Spe
- High Jump Kick
- Fake Out
- U-turn
- Hidden Power [Ice]

All of the Lights (Latios) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake
- Defog
- Psyshock

Lost in the World (Raikou) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 8 Def / 252 SpA / 248 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Volt Switch

Hell of a Life (Ferrothorn) @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Leech Seed

Power (Landorus-Therian) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 24 HP / 248 Atk / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Stone Edge

Winners:

Round 1: Halcyon --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Gothitelle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Trick

Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Dragon Dance

Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Iron Head
- Rapid Spin

Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SDef / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock

Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Thunderbolt
- Roost

Breloom @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Rock Tomb
- Spore

Round 2: Valentine --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Breloom (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Spore
- Mach Punch
- Rock Tomb
- Bullet Seed

Alakazam @ Alakazite
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 228 Spd / 252 SAtk / 28 HP
Modest Nature
- Psyshock
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Taunt

Tyranitar (M) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 12 Atk / 252 SAtk / 244 Spd
Naive Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast

Azumarill (F) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough

Talonflame (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Sleep Talk
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn

Excadrill (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide

Round 3: Jukain --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Pinsir @ Pinsirite
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Return
- Quick Attack
- Earthquake

Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 108 HP / 252 SAtk / 148 Spd
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Flash Cannon

Kyurem-Black @ Chople Berry
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 56 SAtk / 200 Spd
Lonely Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Ice Beam
- Fusion Bolt
- Iron Head

Deoxys-Speed @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 12 Atk / 244 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Psycho Boost
- Ice Beam
- Superpower

Bisharp @ Black Glasses
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Pursuit

Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Scald
- Icy Wind

Round 4: TFL --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SDef
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Roost
- Defog
- Counter

Dugtrio (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature
IVs: 21 HP / 0 Def / 0 SDef
- Reversal
- Rock Tomb
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Charizard (M) @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 140 SDef / 120 Spd
Careful Nature
- Roost
- Fire Punch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Dragon Claw

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rest
- Scald
- Sleep Talk
- Calm Mind

Tornadus (Tornadus-Therian) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 132 HP / 160 SAtk / 216 Spd
Timid Nature
- U-turn
- Knock Off
- Hurricane
- Focus Blast

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonlight
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Flamethrower

Round 5: SnowCristal! --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Prague Kick (Volcarona) (M) @ Leftovers
Shiny: Yes
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 104 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef / 140 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Quiver Dance
- Substitute
- Fiery Dance
- Bug Buzz

Laurel (Ferrothorn) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 92 Def / 168 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Me (Gardevoir) (F) @ Gardevoirite
Trait: Trace
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Ground]

Bloo (Rotom-W) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 212 Def / 48 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hydro Pump
- Pain Split

Axily (Latias) (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Healing Wish

ZoroDark (Landorus-T) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef / 180 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

Round 6: SnowCristal! --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Azumarill (F) @ Assault Vest
Trait: Huge Power
EVs: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 40 SDef / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Waterfall

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Healing Wish
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog

Thundurus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt

Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Terrakion @ Focus Sash
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Taunt
- Stone Edge
- Stealth Rock

Heracross (F) @ Heracronite
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast
- Close Combat

Round 7: Asterat --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 248 HP / 152 Def / 108 SpD
Impish Nature
- Slack Off
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Stealth Rock

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Knock Off
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 72 HP / 196 SpA / 240 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Roost

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 48 HP / 252 Atk / 208 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost

Terrakion @ Choice Band
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

Round 8: Jukain --From Previous Thread:

Importable

Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 20 Def / 16 SpD / 224 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Reflect Type
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 240 SpA / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Dragon Tail

Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 24 Def / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast
- Calm Mind

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 172 Def / 88 SpD
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock
- Power Whip
- Protect

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 248 HP / 188 Def / 72 Spe
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Protect
- Substitute
- Earthquake

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 136 HP / 252 Atk / 120 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- Healing Wish
- U-turn
- Fire Punch

Round 10: Sugarhigh

Importable

Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- Rapid Spin

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pickpocket
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Pursuit

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Grass Knot
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 48 HP / 252 Atk / 208 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Fang
- Aqua Tail
- Aerial Ace

Skarmory @ Salac Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Brave Bird

Round 11:Vinc608

Importable

Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Rain Dance
- Scald

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 148 SpD / 112 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fire Punch
- Dragon Claw
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 72 HP / 184 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Roost

Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 24 Def / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball / Protect


Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 200 Def / 16 SpD / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Round 12:Rosen

Importable

Azumarill @ Assault Vest
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Superpower
- Waterfall

Sceptile-Mega @ Sceptilite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SpA / 184 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Giga Drain
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost

Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Recover

Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Pursuit

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 240 HP / 192 Def / 76 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Slack Off

 

[CZ.]

Now let's get on with Round 10!! The two Pokemon for this round will be:

Both of these Pokemon are huge offensive threats with great speed tiers, while complimenting each other nicely. Starmie being able to spin away Weavile's 25% Switch in damage thanks to Stealth Rocks. I know we used Starmie before, but that was paired with Goodra and was a more defensive style. With this core, you are free to go all out offensive! Both are pretty frail when ran offensively, so be careful for priority..

 

[Dread Arceus]

I'll kick this thing off...

Importable

Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Punch
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang

Celebi @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Baton Pass
- Giga Drain
- Psychic

Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Poison Jab

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sludge Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
- Focus Blast

Explanations

The fuck's a mega?
I started off with the given core. Weavile's set's standard LO, while Starmie is spinning w/ HP Fire. It was originally LO Analytic, but there was way too much LO spam towards the end and it helps Starmie avoid getting worn down. I decided to go the HO route since it was 1/3 of the way there already, and added Aerodactyl as a lead. I use Aerodactyl > Azelf because Aerodactyl can double as a way to beat the shit Scarf Terrakion beats if the team matchup looks shit. I added Celebi because having something that can take hits from Water types is mandatory nowadays, even on offense teams. NastyPass is fun af, but if you're a "fuck BP it's gey" type person Shadow Ball can work too to fuck with Lati@s. Scarf Terrakion checks a bunch of stuff, from Mega Pinsir to Talonflame to Charizard X. Finally, Fairies and certain Psychics were shaping up to be threats, so I added Gengar to fuck up Mew, Mega Gardevoir, and Clefable. I originally had Thunderbolt > Focus Blast to hit Greninja and MDos that think they're trickE, but Focus Blast does the same shit, albeit with less accuracy. It's still a fine option if you like accuracy > coverage and power though.

 

[Rosen]

aw yiss

motha
fucken
weavile

Importable

Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Rapid Spin

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 24 Def / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Shard
- Knock Off/Low Kick
- Pursuit
- Low Kick/Ice Punch

Breloom @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Spore
- Rock Tomb
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed

Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower/Overheat
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Volt Switch

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Stealth Rock
- Soft-Boiled

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost

Shitty Explanation

lemme get off my phone and onto a computer so I can type up a decent explanation. for the time being I'll summarize it as "ko as much shit as possible before dying of recoil." Sash loom for speed control and wrecking sand offense, mega mane for birdspam, clef for sr support as well as tanking/sweeping, lastly sharp beak sd talonflame to kill off what ain't already dead. Hp fire on starmie for luring ferro and scizor and the like, pursuit>knock off on vile to trap the latis and gengar and the like... will provide a better explaination asap (aka tomorrow mornong most likely)

Better Explanation

Alright here we go. Starting off with the core sets: Weavile is weak to Stealth Rock, so having Rapid Spin on Starmie is pretty much essential (plus providing Rapid Spin support frees up room for other members in general). Starmie's other three moves are Hydro Pump and Psyshock for dem STAB Analytic anal thrashing capabilities and HP Fire because fuck Ferrothorn and fuck Scizor, while we're at it. Didn't put Knock Off on Weavile because none of the other team members really benefit from it, but it is a very usable (and strong) option over Low Kick if you think Breloom covers enough shit w/ Mach Punch. Pursuit is fucken sex for trapping Gengar and the Latis and the like tho. Low Kick is there for OHKOing Bishart and Tyranitar and hitting Ferrothorn + Heatran for solid damage on the switch.

Moving on. I, like dEnIsSsS, started out with Scarf Magnezone + Scarf Lando (as you can see in my initial aids Weavile + Starmie team here -> http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/team-archive-by-ctc.3513518/page-17, but I soon found out that SD Talonflame wrecks that shit, and that my team was super weak to both Sand and Rain, which is some fucken bullshit teambuilding on my part if ya ask me. So I kept Mie + Weavile + Clef and went about figuring out what to do with the other three. I knew I needed Grass/Fighting coverage somewhere for bulky waters/sharp, and I noticed that even with Scarf Lando sand still wrecks that shit cuz after intimidate, LO Adamant Exca only needs a bit of prior damage to 2HKO Lando. I looked to Chesnaught b/c I fucken love Chesnaught, but literally nothing could more successfully kill momentum on my team (besides Mola or Chans or some shit), also I wanted something that could actually hit hard, and with Starmie providing that sexy-sexy Rapid Spin support I looked no further than Sash Breloom. Adamant Nature to OHKO Exca w/ Mach Punch, Rock Tomb (aka most spammable known move) for hitting burds nd shit (provided Sash is intact, which tbh isn't remotely hard to do) as well as forcing switches/providing great chances to set up Spore, Bullet Seed because fuck Suicune, fuck Quagsire, fuck Mega Gyara. Fuck yo waters. Moving on, Scarf Zone got replaced with Mega Manectric because A) Shit's faster, yo, and outspeeding Jolly Talonflame is a big fucken deal for this squadron; B) Doesn't kill momentum by getting choice locked into some ass move like Volt Switch; C) INTIMIDATEEEEE, which is great 90% of the time unless the opponent has a Bisharp (also why I scrapped Scarf Lando b/c LandT + Mega Mane get's fuckn destroyed by Sharp). But all this shit struggles w/ Mega Venusaur/stall in general so enter Sharp Beak SD Talonflame. In addition to being a sex late-game sweeper, this thing fucken destroys stall and offense alike (if you can set up), eliminating the need for a dedicated stallbreaker. Fuuuuck, it even 2HKOs Scarf Heatran after SR at +2. Shit's fucken A. I don't have replays as of now unfortunately, but if I can get some good ones I'll go ahead and stick 'em in here.

tl;dr vote for me or I'll fucking cut you (although I now have zero chance of winning b/c dEnIsSsS)

REPLAYS

I'm pretty lazy/bad at laddering so I had WebBowser do my dirty work for me (ty<3), so here's a couple replays --

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-172552698

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-172554378

 

[CZ.]

This round will end: Wednesday, October 15th at 23:59pm. (I will go on EST time as it is probably the most common.)
Voting will last: Thursday, October 16th 00:00am - Saturday, 18th October 23:59pm.
Results will be posted Sunday, 19th October.

Just so everyone knows how much time they have to test their teams before submitting and people who have already submitted may change if they wish. (PM me with the changes)

 

[Fourth Inversion]

importable

Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Rapid Spin
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pickpocket
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Knock Off
- Ice Punch
- Ice Shard
- Pursuit

Ampharos @ Ampharosite
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Agility
- Thunderbolt
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast

Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe
Calm Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Baton Pass
- Giga Drain
- Stealth Rock

Talonflame
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Acrobatics
- Taunt
- Roost
- Bulk Up

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 24 HP / 252 Atk / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Knock Off
- U-turn

explanation

I decided to take advantage of the Rapid Spin support provided by Starmie and the Pursuit trapping support of Weavile to pair the core with Bulk Up + Taunt Talonflame, and Agility Mega Ampharos. Talonflame improves the team's matchup against stall, provides a win condition, breaks through Clefable and revenge kills Mega Heracross. Both Weavile and Starmie are weak to Talonflame, so I used Mega Ampharos to counter it. Celebi was used as the Stealth Rock setter to give a better matchup against Rain teams, in addition to its ability to Baton Pass Nasty Plot to either Starmie or Mega Ampharos. Scarfed Landorus-T was included to plug as many holes as possible, providing a secondary check to Talonflame + Mega Pinsir, a shaky check to Latios with Knock Off, a Mega Charizard-X check and so on.

 

[Taliheim]

Generic 10-Minute Team, Go!

Importable

Starmie @ Life Orb
Trait: Analytic
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Hydro Pump
- Psyshock
- Ice Beam

Weavile (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Poison Jab
- Pursuit

Manectric (M) @ Manectite
Shiny: Yes
Trait: Lightningrod
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Overheat

Landorus-T (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Superpower
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Knock Off
- Explosion

Bisharp (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance

Explanation

I decided to go the HO route for obvious reasons. The Weavile set may look interesting, but when I thought about it, Ice Shard already does enough, and Knock Off can take care of the other Ice-weak mons (i.e. Lati@s). Manectric checks Ninja and can get a free switch-in on most priority users due to Intimidate, and can also act as a wincon if I wear the opponent down enough. Lando-T was an obvious choice after that, the two having obscene synergy, along with the fact that the double Intimidate can force out physical opponents pretty well, which HO teams really need in case something goes out of hand. I used to have Pivot Lando-T, but I was checked by a few things, as well as having no fighting coverage due to no Low Kick on Weavile. So, I replaced Pivot Lando-T for a Scarf Lando-T with Superpower, which seems to be relatively unexpected despite being in the analysis. This freed up the Stealth Rock spot, and since our hazard removal was a Spinner, that Deosharp 2.0 would work for the last 2 mons - I won't be able to remove Azelf's rocks, while Bisharp blocks opponents from Defogging (and takes care of Clefable, who's otherwise a real pain). Sharp also shares many checks/counters to Weavile, so they can wear them down for one another, opening one up for a sweep later on, which is why I gave Sharp SD.

The best part about this team is that it's easily customizable - you can change around Starmie's, Weavile's, Lando's, and Sharp's movesets easily to fit your liking.

 

[sugarhigh]

importable

Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- Rapid Spin

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pickpocket
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Low Kick
- Pursuit

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Grass Knot
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 48 HP / 252 Atk / 208 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Fang
- Aqua Tail
- Aerial Ace

Skarmory @ Salac Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Brave Bird

explanation

Alright I don't normally do these kind of things but Josh is a frend and asked me to do it I did it n_n. I kinda wanted to make a hipster offense team since weavile n starmie are two decently hipster mons n_n. I felt that spike stacking h-o should be the route taken since weavile and starmie both benefit from mons taking a shit ton of entry hazard damage and hit like trucks n_n. I also felt that cud work since weavile has a shit ton offensive pressure to prevent garbage ass latis from trying to defog off it. So from there I added a wincon, as landorus therian because I not only need a exca check a secondary bird spam check but a mon that can freely come in onf scarf lando-t's and set up for free. DD landorus-therian essentially rapes balance and other offensive teams becuz the sheer amount of stuff it can set up on free is pretty fucking hilarious lol. After I needed a primary bird spam check but I also didnt want to give up on offensive prescence and since electric types are kinda boring and I assumed most people wud choose manectric-mega as theyre check i used the stronk af 4 attack mega aero. Mega aero is amazing it has such nice coverage and puts so much pressure on h-o teams with its fast pace providing a revenge killer on most mons such as gren and manec-mega, etc. Furthermore it provides pressure against stuff such as ferrothorn, ground types with its coverage while also basically shreking over bird spam hehe. Finally I brought a greninja cuz I felt the team needed a strong and fast attacker and greninja fits pretty decently well. Oh i also used pursuit weavile cuz fuck latis n also thunder starmie cuz fuck slowbros n azu switchins u_u. The team did pretty decent fucking over the players i brought it against Josh, tesung, n destiny device all got fucked over by it lol. Enjoy da team pretty fun shits on italian offense which is always fucking nice ~o3o~. O also starmie is really fucking chill cuz i dont gotta rely on shit defog and lose mah hazards ~o3o~

credits to pkparaiso.com for sprites n_n

 

[horyzhnz]

explanation

Sorta balanced, but leans a bit more to the offensive. Weavile's set is the standard LO 4 attacks set, which is actually pretty damn nice with Dark and Ice being good offensive types; this set's main job is to either punch holes early-game on forced switches or to clean up late game with its blazing Speed and priority Ice Shard. Starmie's set is a more defensive Reflect Type set, which makes it a decent check to things such as Keldeo and Heatran, which Weavile would otherwise have some trouble breaking past, and some other mons such as Bisharp, Tyranitar, Ferrothorn, and Scizor after using Reflect Type. It's also able to spin away entry hazards to reduce chip damage, fish for Scald burns, and absorb status. Scarf Keldeo was chosen to take care of most speedier Pokemon such as Greninja, +1 Mega Charizard X (which Weavile can pick off with Ice Shard if Keldeo goes down), and Scarf Landorus-T. Mega Manectric is nice for fast Volt Switches to scout stuff, kinda handles Azumarill and Talonflame with Intimidate and Electric STAB, and means that Thundurus can't chuck around its priority Thunder Waves and whatnot. Latias packs Psyshock to deal with Mega Venusaur and Keldeo, Thunderbolt for Skarmory, Mega Charizard Y, and Manaphy, etc etc Draco Meteor chunks something, blah blah blah. Healing Wish is primarily to give Weavile a second chance at sweeping if you've misplayed it earlier, or whatever becomes your win condition. Jirachi is a fantastic check to Mega Gardevoir, which otherwise does quite a number on this team. It's also there to set up rocks to break sashes and let Weavile clean up more efficiently, give a slow U-turn into something, and paraflinch stuff. ya sorry stall is rly annoying to this team at times, but eh my first submitted team's always gonna have holes ._.

importable

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Ice Punch
- Low Kick

Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 20 Def / 16 SpD / 224 Spe
Timid Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Reflect Type
- Scald
- Recover

Keldeo-Resolute @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Hidden Power [Electric]

Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat

Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Healing Wish
- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP / 244 SpD / 16 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Body Slam

 

[Epique.]

Importable

Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 36 Def / 224 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Reflect Type
- Scald
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Knock Off
- Ice Punch
- Ice Shard
- Pursuit

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 236 HP / 216 Def / 56 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock

Doublade @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 248 SpD
Careful Nature
- Shadow Claw
- Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 172 Def / 88 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Knock Off
- Power Whip

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 96 HP / 220 Atk / 8 SpD / 184 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Flare Blitz
- Roost
- Dragon Claw

Description

I started the team giving offensive sets to both Starmie (with leftovers to make it last longer) and Weavile (LO with pursuit). Hippowdon was added to cover Flyingspam, fast scarfers, Bisharp, Sand Offense, Thundurus (Saves Zard from paralysis) , etc. and then I added Ferrothorn to deal with Azumarill, Gyarados and Rain Sweepers in general. Doublade was incorporated to the team to beat things like Hawlucha and mega wallbreakers. Finally, I added DD Zard-X to the team, as it is a very powerful set up sweeper and win condition that also helps me a bit, along with Weavile (tho it works only in some cases), if i´m facing an hp fire Greninja. After some testing, I switched Starmie´s set to Bulky Reflect Type, which gave it more longevity and helped it to support the team in a more efficient way.

 

[robotic jo]

Ok. I'm gonna give this a shot.

Importable

Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Psyshock
- Scald
- Thunderbolt

Weavile (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Shard
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance
- Brick Break

Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Icy Wind

Golbat (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Infiltrator
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Toxic
- Defog
- Roost
- Brave Bird

Rotom-Wash @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Confuse Ray
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hydro Pump

Scizor (M) @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Swords Dance
- Roost

Explanation

This team has good coverage. Both physical(a.k.a Rotom-Wash) and special wall(a.k.a Golbat) and an unusual scarfed Keldeo. The mega Scizor is for getting rid of some pokemon like Clefable with a bullet punch or just for priority. Also, Starmie is a rapid spinner and if it faints, Golbat is backup to get rid of entry hazards. Brave bird on Golbat is just for damage when low enough and Keldeo runs Icy Wind and Hidden Power Fire for coverage and for other fast scarfed dragon pokemon like scarfed Garchomp or Flygon. It will make them switch out and that would be your chance for a safe switch-in. The Weavile also has priority to finish off lower-health Pokemon. Rotom-Wash is also a great physical wall with a Sitrus Berry. With it using Will-O-Wisp on physical attackers and confuse ray to confuse them and then Rotom-Wash keeps on attacking until they switch out or activate it's sitrus to keep attacking. Also threats like Charizard-Y when sent out the Rotom-Wash, it is good to switch it into the Golbat and Toxic it and keep roost stalling it until it faints because Charizard-Y is a big threat to this team. Weavile with knock off also gets rid of Psychic or Ghost walls and does a truck amount of damage. HP Electric on Keldeo gives coverage to some other Pokemon like Pelipper (Random Example), but you get the point.

Good Luck to the others!​

 

[CZ.]

TIME FOR VOTING. YOU HAVE TILL SATURDAY 23:59 EST.

 

[Kushalos]

tanya sugarhigh

 

[Dallaren]

sugarhigh

Salac Skarm *__*

 

[AM]

Tough for me to pick between denis, epique, and talenheim but going to have to go with Talenhiem.

 

[Scotti]

Epique.

 

[Terrakion.]

Nice to see this back up, gl CZ. Also horyzhnz has the best team in my opinion. Everything just seems to go together well each other and covers up some common threats.

 

[CanadianWifier]

dennis

 

[boltsandbombers]

Sugarhigh

 

[looiiyut]

dEnIsSsS

 

[Fourth Inversion]

This is difficult to decide, but I'm going to vote for sugarhigh, although there are some other strong teams here, each of which cover the shared weaknesses of Starmie + Weavile to differing degrees. The majority of the teams chose a setup sweeper, but the choice of Double Dance Landorus-T was both an excellent fit with the core, and was included on a team where your opponent could easily expect it to be either Defensive or Scarfed Landorus-T.

 

[Jaiho]

sugarhigh *-*

salac skarm is cool af

 

[Rosen]

fuuuck... sugarhigh def has the coolest team

 

[pj]

dEnIsSsS

 

[The Bravest Bird]

Brazilian cancer

i mean dEnIsSsS