MoxieInfinite
Banned deucer.
1k. Solid :o
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Other Pokemon: Smogon Version OU [Route 4]
- Thread starter Chou Toshio
- Start date
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Trainer proposal:
Psychic steve
Abra
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
Bulbasaur
Ability: Overgrow
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Grass Knot
- Venoshock
Flaaffy
Ability: Static
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Thunder Shock
- Thunder Wave
- Charge Beam
Magnemite
Ability: Magnet Pull
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Thunder Shock
- Thunder Wave
- Sonic Boom
Prinplup
Ability: Torrent
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Bubble Beam
- Icy Wind
- Defog
Gastly
Ability: Levitate
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Venoshock
- Night Shade
- Hypnosis
- Curse
Before battle: Pokemon is all about strategy, if you don't have a strategy you can't win!
After losing: It looks you have a solid strategy!
After winning: Looks like you need to work on your strategy some more.
When talked to again: You seem to be a good trainer, you might even make it through [insert mountain name here].
Psychic steve
Abra
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
Bulbasaur
Ability: Overgrow
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Grass Knot
- Venoshock
Flaaffy
Ability: Static
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Thunder Shock
- Thunder Wave
- Charge Beam
Magnemite
Ability: Magnet Pull
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Thunder Shock
- Thunder Wave
- Sonic Boom
Prinplup
Ability: Torrent
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Bubble Beam
- Icy Wind
- Defog
Gastly
Ability: Levitate
Level: 20
EVs: 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Venoshock
- Night Shade
- Hypnosis
- Curse
Before battle: Pokemon is all about strategy, if you don't have a strategy you can't win!
After losing: It looks you have a solid strategy!
After winning: Looks like you need to work on your strategy some more.
When talked to again: You seem to be a good trainer, you might even make it through [insert mountain name here].
no 252Evs in any stat atm
NPC Proposal
Defensive Guru Paul
Pre-Battle Quote: Well you beat one now time for the next one!
Rhyhorn lvl 23
- Rock Blast
- Stomp
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Fang
Aron lvl 22
- Take Down
- Iron Head
- Roar
- Mud Slap
Squirtle lvl 22
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Bubble
- Bite
Hippotas lvl 23
- Dig
- Bite
- Yawn
- Take Down
Losing quote: guess my defense couldn't help cover my offense...
Win Quote: Hah! Lets go Defense!
Defensive Guru Paul
Pre-Battle Quote: Well you beat one now time for the next one!
Rhyhorn lvl 23
- Rock Blast
- Stomp
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Fang
Aron lvl 22
- Take Down
- Iron Head
- Roar
- Mud Slap
Squirtle lvl 22
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Bubble
- Bite
Hippotas lvl 23
- Dig
- Bite
- Yawn
- Take Down
Losing quote: guess my defense couldn't help cover my offense...
Win Quote: Hah! Lets go Defense!
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water gun for squirtle pls, unless you're dependent on the speed drop chance
They are both same base power is why I didn't see it as an issue.
#Trollfreakbuffinglowlevelmovesfornoapparentreason
3 is such an awkward number for EV grinding, I say we add at least one additional mon. Ferroseed, Gligar, Vullaby, and Hippopotas are all pretty good canadates. I'd prefer 6 just because it happens to match up with the magical value of 252 very nicely, but 4 and 8 work pretty well too.
I did three there mainly cause I didn't feel liketyping there anymore. Lazyness at its best.
Maybe some Berry trees?
All these years I thought bubble was 20 power. My life is a lie.
PC isn't needed as the last town isn't far.
Berry trees seem OK, but I think we had a berry guru something...
A secret route to bypass the mountain...doesn't seem probable. Think of it:there's a path blocked by tree that goes round the mountain, yet should be short as well. Doesn't make sense right.
The best addition I can think of is an NPC that gives eviolite, but I can't propose this from my phone atm
I wouldn't do that. It's too early for Eviolite. The only two things that should be approaching fully evolved are Azumarill and Diggersby. Maybe after the next gym.
That's fair as well. An NPC coming up, which i suppose will be the last since, as ForumBeta said, we don't need much more here, so maybe we can start with the mountain after Salemance gives the go.
NPC Proposal
Hiker
When talked to 1st time : "Hey ya spirited yung 'un, ya going to tha mountain? 'tis a nice place to train, but ya dont want yer Pokemon to faint time and oer 'gain right? Sure ya can take Potions and stuff, but what if ya wanted to come out of tha mountain, uh? Here take thiis. Dont hesitate" Gives 5 Escape Ropes. "Dont wurry, we hikers always hav a lot of theese. Happy trekking lil 'un!"
When talked to later : "Peepul here may look scary with there many rules an' stuff, but dont ya wurry. Talk to them an' they'll help ya if they can"
The talked to later part can be edited as i didn't make the point clear enough i guess.
I like it. And I guess give me tomorrow to write the wrap up I guess. I'm gonna have to get creative with it since I can't access my comp due to personal issues so it will take a little. Stay tuned for the further adventures in SmogSmog!
Basically if there is any last minute things you want to add (random luck sack grunt or what ) get to it before wrap up tomorrow.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bubble_(move)
Literally a gen 6 change for no apparent reason...
#Trollfreakbuffinglowlevelmovesfornoapparentreason
Salemance I just make teams on PS and import them here, saves me a ton of work :P
Also, we still need 3 more trainers for the nugget bridge of EV grinding. I'll make one for health...
Breeder Barst
Happiny @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 20
EVs: 252 HP
Bold Nature
- Toxic
- Counter
- Sweet Kiss
- Rest
Azurill @ Leftovers
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 20
EVs: 252 HP
Adamant Nature
- Return
Slowpoke @ Lum Berry
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 20
EVs: 252 HP
Modest Nature
- Yawn
- Confusion
- Water Gun
Foongus @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 20
EVs: 252 HP
Quiet Nature
- Mega Drain
- Feint Attack
- Growth
Wynaut @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
Level: 20
EVs: 252 HP
Bold Nature
- Counter
- Encore
- Mirror Coat
- Safeguard
Shellos @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
Level: 20
EVs: 252 HP
Modest Nature
- Mud Bomb
- Water Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]
Intro Quote: Let's battle, it's good for your pokemon's health!
Loss Quote: Oh no, my pokemon ran out of health!
Outro Quote: We should battle again sometime, it's really good for your pokemon's health!
Hints op
I understand just something we got to make. If they aren't suggested I'll probably make em really fast with the write up as it's a nice quick burst of experience to have (or I'll just have em conti ue into the mountain alit bit if I see the need for it).
are we ok with current trainers using 252EV in one stat? Not a strong objection but i feel we should ~160EVs total, and that too spread out here an there
It might just be me but I don't recall much of an issue with them being EV'd out all they way cause I had assumed they had gained or been to the EV trainers in the game. Memory may be a bit fuzzy, it's been awhile since I looked at the EV discussion on this.
I honestly think so. The power of EVs scale with level, meaning that 252 doesn't equate to 252/4 in stats at level 20. That's why LC spreads look really weird compared to OU stat spreads.
DoW
formally Death on Wings
Trainer Proposal
Speed Freak Kath
Smeargle
Ability: Own Tempo
Level: 20
- Sticky Web
- Thunder Wave
- U-turn
Vulpix @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
Level: 20
- Ember
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Roar
Elektrike @ Expert Belt
Ability: Static
Level: 20
- Shockwave
- Flame Burst
- Volt Switch
Diglett @ Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap
Level: 20
- Bulldoze
- Sucker Punch
- Rock Tomb
- Sunny Day
Meditite @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pure Power
Level: 20
- Low Sweep
- Rock Tomb
- Bullet Punch
Fletchinder @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 20
- Aerial Ace
- Flame Charge
- U-turn
Intro Quote: If you're faster, you win!
Loss Quote: Guess you still need power as well...
Win Quote: Be careful not to let Hyper Offense teams get going!
Speed Freak Kath
Smeargle
Ability: Own Tempo
Level: 20
- Sticky Web
- Thunder Wave
- U-turn
Vulpix @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
Level: 20
- Ember
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Roar
Elektrike @ Expert Belt
Ability: Static
Level: 20
- Shockwave
- Flame Burst
- Volt Switch
Diglett @ Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap
Level: 20
- Bulldoze
- Sucker Punch
- Rock Tomb
- Sunny Day
Ability: Pure Power
Level: 20
- Low Sweep
- Rock Tomb
- Bullet Punch
Fletchinder @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 20
- Aerial Ace
- Flame Charge
- U-turn
Intro Quote: If you're faster, you win!
Loss Quote: Guess you still need power as well...
Win Quote: Be careful not to let Hyper Offense teams get going!
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Funny, took till that post to me to recall that Smeargle had the capability to uturn (seeing it do nothing but GeoPass guess made me forget that)
It's funny...we could have, even a little bit earlier, actually used Smeargle as an actual attacker with high powered moves. Sure base 20 offenses aren't good, but when everything else has low stats and Smeargle is fast and given moves like Boomburst...it's hard to really defend too well.
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