Woah your right for the longest time I had thought it was physicalVenoshock is a Special attack
Woah your right for the longest time I had thought it was physicalVenoshock is a Special attack
You can't afford to move second, so no.Wouldn't Modest nature be better than Timid?
Didn't notice how fragile she was. Thanks for the reply.You can't afford to move second, so no.
Focus sash is rather situational so its not some sort of general item to slap on as it requires support, that said I don't really see the merit in it since Salazzle since she'd much rather benefit from immediate fire power of LO or yes passive recovery -- both items have more general applications. Unless your aim is to get one NP off and go ham? But in which case you don't really need Focus Sash as you'd be better off running Encore + Nasty Plot to create that set up more consistently.Didn't notice how fragile she was. Thanks for the reply.
Edit: Could you also tell me your opinion on if it would be wise to give Salazzle a Focus Sash?
I appreciate the comprehensive reply.Focus sash is rather situational so its not some sort of general item to slap on as it requires support, that said I don't really see the merit in it since Salazzle since she'd much rather benefit from immediate fire power of LO or yes passive recovery -- both items have more general applications. Unless your aim is to get one NP off and go ham? But in which case you don't really need Focus Sash as you'd be better off running Encore + Nasty Plot to create that set up more consistently.
+2 Sludge Wave/Bomb OHKOes most Dragons already and having Dragon coverage in the first place does not help Salazzle's coverage issues much against the omnipresent Heatran and Garchomp among other threats.So is Dragon Pulse not a viable move for the nasty plot set? I would have thought the strong hit vs all non-uber Dragons would be better than Hidden Power sometimes, as it deals with opponents such as Kommo-o, Hydreigon, Kyurem-B (once Pokebank is released) and other dragons not 4x weak to Ice.
Dragon Pulse does help against Garchomp, actually. It needs a lot of HP investment to introduce a chance to avoid the OHKO after Nasty Plot, and a stupidly high amount to guarantee a 2HKO.+2 Sludge Wave/Bomb OHKOes most Dragons already and having Dragon coverage in the first place does not help Salazzle's coverage issues much against the omnipresent Heatran and Garchomp among other threats.
I feel like, if you're really trying to smack garchomp, HP ice is just better all around, since it helps deal with gliscor and lando (no need to risk a miss) more safely, too.Dragon Pulse does help against Garchomp, actually. It needs a lot of HP investment to introduce a chance to avoid the OHKO after Nasty Plot, and a stupidly high amount to guarantee a 2HKO.
+2 252 SpA Salazzle Dragon Pulse vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 380-448 (100 - 117.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 SpA Salazzle Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Garchomp: 354-418 (84.2 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
But Garchomp doesn't take its STAB attacks significantly well anyway.
My wife used one in-game and was almost immediately of the opinion that it's definitely too frail for NP. From what I've read on the matter, I'm hard-pressed to disagree.Does Salazzle have the opportunity to set Nasty Plot? Isn't it too frail? Besides it has a x4 weakness to ground
Why would those Pokemon switch in?Personally, I think that Toxic is one of the best options for Salazzle to run on the Life Orb set because a lot of its counters like Toxapex, Heatran, and Mega Venusaur can't safely switch in without potentially cutting into their longevity for the rest of the match.
why is mega venu being discussed as a switch in to Salazzle lolWhile Salazzle can't really make use of Corrosion as much as it wants to, it's still quite good at crippling specific threats. Heatran, Mega Venusaur and especially Toxapex can almost always switch into Salazzle, but are severely crippled by Toxic. Subsitute pairs up very well with Toxic since, even though it will almost always be broken immediately, it helps rack up damage. It also eases prediction and helps against Bisharp, and as long as it's still OU, Mega Mawile. The choice of an item is bascially a pick-your-poison: either go with Black Sludge and forfeit a lot of necessary power, or run a Life Orb and lose the ability to stack Substitutes.
I think Salazzle is gonna be one of the fastest Fake Out users in this meta but I don't know how reliable it will be, but why Poison Gas instead of Sludge Wave or Sludge Bomb? I also think that Corrosion may be a great ability but Salazzle's frail defenses and typing make Corrosion almost (if not completely) useless in this monSalazzle (F) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Corrosion
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Fake Out
- Poison Gas
- Fire Blast
- Protect
Really surprised it's support movepool hasn't been addressed. It's got an amazing movepool for doubles packing Poison Gas, Encore, Disable, Will O Wisp, Fake Out, Taunt, Knock off and Venoshock. I can definitely see this being great for Hex oriented squads, perhaps pairing it with Mega Gengar w/ Hex. Poison Gas is very spammable as there is basically nothing to absorb it and it puts huge pressure upon your opponent.
Double/VGC are formats where almost everything runs protect. If your opponents entire team is poisoned (Poison Gas poisons both foes) they're on the clock and you'll only need to wait. Just sit tight and protect spam.I think Salazzle is gonna be one of the fastest Fake Out users in this meta but I don't know how reliable it will be, but why Poison Gas instead of Sludge Wave or Sludge Bomb? I also think that Corrosion may be a great ability but Salazzle's frail defenses and typing make Corrosion almost (if not completely) useless in this mon
Probably should have specified you were talking about doubles :vDouble/VGC are formats where almost everything runs protect. If your opponents entire team is poisoned (Poison Gas poisons both foes) they're on the clock and you'll only need to wait. Just sit tight and protect spam.