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Gen 3 SB2 server preparations

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by eric the espeon, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Mario With Lasers

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    Just a nitpick:

    Not "Fire types", you mean "Flash Fire users". Will-O-Wisp isn't absorbed by things like Skill Swap Venomoth (they get burned instead, while in 4th Gen they activate Flash Fire like it would do to Heatran).
  2. eric the espeon

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    I have seen those files, and yes all of the simple changes should be extremely easy to implement. The mechanics changes will require a coder though.

    ?

    Do you have a source for this, the person who pointed it out in the first place slightly implied the opposite.
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    Definitely in support of this.. playing older gens on the most active simulator again would be so fantastic, especially now with ladders and everything. I've given up trying to find matches regularly on Netbattle :(

    If this does become an official project, would the ADV tiers be changed according to the newer process now that usage stats are available?

    Anyway, a few changes that I don't see on the list:

    - Substitute doesn't block Yawn
    - Wish "always works" (refering to how in DPP it doesn't heal a pokemon switching in after a KO)
    - All type-boosting items (eg. Charcoal) are boosted by 10%
  4. eric the espeon

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    I would hope to see at least the BL/OU divide updated to reflect discrepancies between usage and expected usage. Something along the likes of the new UU tier is worth considering, but would not be viable unless there is widespread interest in it.

    The Wish change is included in changing the switching when something faints mechanics, if my understanding is correct.

    Added the others, thanks.
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    Hail and Sandstorm get their own changes.

    Sandstorm:

    In DPPt, a sandstorm gives a rock type a 1.5 boost in special defense. In RSE, no such thing.

    Hail:

    In DPPt, Blizzard in hail becomes 100% accurate and breaks Protect. Neither boost is aplicable in RSE.

    No abilities (aside from the obvious Forcast, Cloud Nine, Air Lock, and weather changers) exist that affect hail.

    I THINK that's it for those. Maybe there are more though.
  6. eric the espeon

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    Good finds but they are already listed. From the OP:
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    Sleep can take more then 4 rounds, it has no limit
    Encore takes 2-5 rounds
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    "Flash Fire is not activated by Will-O-Wisp", is both more accurate and more concise.

    Edit: No Sapientia, that is not correct, Sleep lasts 2-5 turns just like it does in DPP.
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    Do you know how sleep duration is determined then?
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    it's 1-4 rounds in dp ;)
    I'm pretty sure you can sleep longer in adv then in dp, but I don't know how long exactly, but more then 5 rounds iirc
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    I remembered that my frozen voir didn't thawed, even under Sun.

    @Sapientia: I think it's either the same as Reflect had said, or it determined by some sort of 'chance to wake up' system.
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    It's no wake up chance like you have it with freezes.
    It's the same system like in DP, but you can sleep for a longer time, I'm just not sure how long. 2-5 may be correct, but I thought it was possible to sleep longer, but maybe I don't remember this correct...

    Sure, sun has no effect on freezes
  13. eric the espeon

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    Worth bumping this to note that the info here along with that from other sources has been used to implement ADV on PO and hopefully will be used again for the new sim. Contributions here are encouraged if you want accurate mechanics.
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    It was my understanding that the Deoxys formes existed in ADV, and were dependant on which cartridge you used. Is this not the case?
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    Correct, it is impossible to have different forms of deoxys on one team. Not that it changes anything in standard metagames due to the species clause, but worth noting anyway.
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    Just a note about Sleep: It lasted 2-7 turns in ADV IIRC.

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