Silly Things You've Seen In Other Metagames

InfernapeTropius11

InfernapeTropius11

get on my level
So Hack_Guy pointed out in the chat earlier that Mega Gardevoir has both Double-Edge AND higher attack than Talonflame, prompting me to go ladder with it cuz it seemed hilarios. Some replays for your enjoyment:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-240709548
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-240711200
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-240713493 (this one would be funny even if I didn't use Double-Edge MegaGarde lol. dat blastoise tho, must have ALL the passive recovery XD)

WHY WAS I WINNING WITH THIS?!?!?!??!?!?!?
 
AWILDBIBAREL

AWILDBIBAREL

YellowEnder said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/lc-240651070
So this is in Little Cup. The guy has no A-Rank or B-Rank Pokes. His Fennekin has no item. He uses stupid moves against me. Somehow, he was 1040.
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1040.. isn't that just ONE WIN?
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-240756231
Belly Drum Sitrus Berry Smeargle. He was trying to pass it to Mega Kanga (I hope o.O), but even that's silly when I had an ARCEUS-NORMAL on the field. E-Speed pls. Are you expecting an OHKO with Fake Out?
2 F.E.A.R. Ratatas. ONE OF THEM WITHOUT SASH and probably the other one too. Again, he was unaware of the GODLY POWERS of Arceus-Normal and Extreme Speed.
 
Lukethehedgehog

Lukethehedgehog

InfernapeTropius11 said:
So Hack_Guy pointed out in the chat earlier that Mega Gardevoir has both Double-Edge AND higher attack than Talonflame, prompting me to go ladder with it cuz it seemed hilarios. Some replays for your enjoyment:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-240709548
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-240711200
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-240713493 (this one would be funny even if I didn't use Double-Edge MegaGarde lol. dat blastoise tho, must have ALL the passive recovery XD)

WHY WAS I WINNING WITH THIS?!?!?!??!?!?!?
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Sure, MegaGarde has more Atk that Talonflame, but Brabe Burd can hold an item (Although the 1.3x multiplier from Pixilate remedies this) and can run Adamant.

Spin Da (Pig) said:
1040.. isn't that just ONE WIN?
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Actually, I think it's two.
 
InfernapeTropius11

InfernapeTropius11

get on my level
Lukethehedgehog said:
Sure, MegaGarde has more Atk that Talonflame, but Brabe Burd can hold an item (Although the 1.3x multiplier from Pixilate remedies this) and can run Adamant.


Actually, I think it's two.
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I was never denying that, although Pixilate Double Edge is stronger than Adamant Sharp Beak Brave Bird lol

And 1040 is just one win, 1070 is two (in a row)
 
Lukethehedgehog

Lukethehedgehog

Blumenwitz said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/monotype-241542401

Ledian with Mach Punch. Yes, yes, I know it gets Iron Fist, but that 35 Attack stat still isn't threatening anyone.
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I seriously don't understand Game Freak's logic in some Dream World Abilities. First, there's the Pokémon who get useless abilities, like Scizor, Tyranitar and lol Delibird and Rotom-F, which are thankfully sparse; and then there are the Pokémon that get Abilities completely unsuited for their Stats, such as Ledian, which has higher SpA than Atk (Though it's still shit), Pyroar, who has shit Atk (Though this is technically not an HA), and Medicham (WHY GAME FREAK, JUST WHY??? Did you just hire an intern with no knowledge whatsoever of Pokémon to assign Dream World Abilities? Did you want to nerf Medicham for the main game? Did you somehow think ANYONE would use Telepathy Medicham when there's Pure Power available or were you just looking to meet a quota (Except it can't be that last one, because in that case you could just give it Huge Power)? /rant).
 
Darth Manaphy

Darth Manaphy

Lukethehedgehog said:
I seriously don't understand Game Freak's logic in some Dream World Abilities. First, there's the Pokémon who get useless abilities, like Scizor, Tyranitar and lol Delibird and Rotom-F, which are thankfully sparse; and then there are the Pokémon that get Abilities completely unsuited for their Stats, such as Ledian, which has higher SpA than Atk (Though it's still shit), Pyroar, who has shit Atk (Though this is technically not an HA), and Medicham (WHY GAME FREAK, JUST WHY??? Did you just hire an intern with no knowledge whatsoever of Pokémon to assign Dream World Abilities? Did you want to nerf Medicham for the main game? Did you somehow think ANYONE would use Telepathy Medicham when there's Pure Power available or were you just looking to meet a quota (Except it can't be that last one, because in that case you could just give it Huge Power)? /rant).
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To be fair, Scizor, Tyranitar, and Medicham didn't really need hidden abilities, but I know reasons for at least one of them back in Gen V and another this generation. Tyranitar's hidden ability, in my opinion, existed so that way you can use him on a rain team without changing the weather (it DOES OHKO Ninetails in the Sun while only taking like 50-some damage from Solar Beam). Scizor's hidden ability while not "good" allows you to switch it into Low Kicks or Grass Knots easier and then Mega Evolve.
 
thdhted

thdhted

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/1v1-241684104
56 turn stall war between acupressure shuckle and cosmic power clefable.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ubers-241681545
Shit normal mono vs water mono featuring offensive sap sipper azumarill, surskit and more.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/anythinggoes-241684999
Drain punch alakazam. 'nuff said.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/anythinggoes-240058435
tri-attack,charge beam, zap cannon porygon 2 sweep.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/anythinggoes-239643135
4 swellow, 2 gliscor, all stupid. Features trick room special duskinoir.
 
AWILDBIBAREL

AWILDBIBAREL

Blumenwitz said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/monotype-241542401

Ledian with Mach Punch. Yes, yes, I know it gets Iron Fist, but that 35 Attack stat still isn't threatening anyone.
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Mach Punch in general on such a Pokemon is a terrible idea, but I'm pretty sure some Pokes back in DPP carried a priority move, even if they were specially-based, to break sashes. Although I don't see how it would get down to that 1 HP in the first place against Ledian.
 
jordanthejq12

jordanthejq12

On a side note, I just swept with an Exploud and am now kicking myself over not yelling "HERE COMES THE BOOM" into the chat.

Well, I do have more, starting with this player named and using "Dawn's Team", who at least had the decency to fully-evolve and competently outfit her mons. Dawn can, if you follow this model, have one of the better squads (four OU mons, including one of that game's biggest threats in Mega Lopunny) among anime characters, and our player actually got to 1246 with this team. Her opponent? Two Jumpluff (one with Memento), a Smeargle, a FEAR Geodude (which couldn't pull it off thanks to Fake Out), and a Goodra, which took a SmashPass, nailed Lopunny, and proceeded to swe--nope, Ice Shard.

And now for something actually silly:
  • (L) Um...the Friendship is Magic-themed team has only one actual pony (Keldeo). Seriously, no Rapidash? (Would've helped him, too, with Jirachi and Genesect on the other side.)
  • (L) Aegislash using Sacred Sword, then its super-effective Hidden Power. If it had gone with the HP that first turn, it would've beaten Jirachi.
  • (R) The Wishmaker, for its part, gets an Ice Punch freeze...but it's that damn zero-turn freeze. It was also mixed, carrying Dazzling Gleam (hits Darks, at least).
  • (L) Okay, seriously, how do you not predict this? Keldeo is out with a good matchup against Ho-Oh, but Primal Groudon is just waiting there for you to go for the knockout punch. So of course Groudon gets a clean switch. (Ho-Oh was at 27% having been outsped and knocked goofy by a Surf.)
  • (R) Ho-Oh using Thunder, which of course missed, instead of Brave Bird. And what are you doing running Thunder anyway?
  • (L) Mr. Mime with Drain Punch. Base 45 there, folks, and it's not like your other STAB deters a Dark-type switch-in or anything.
  • (L) Keldeo with Surf, which makes some sense in a metagame with Primal Groudon that can't be burned--oh wait, it STILL DOES NOTHING.
  • (R) Speaking of PDon, this one had Power-up Punch and...Lava Plume. Hey, Fire Punch, especially if you have PuP.
  • (L) Mega Diancie gets consecutive Defense boosts with Diamond Storm. Dear Princess Celestia, today I got really lucky!* (And that joke works even better than I thought, since Diancie was Twilight Sparkle.)*--never mind that that's actually only 25% odds, since DS has a 50% boost chance. But that's only one percentage point better than hitting four Focus Blasts (24%), and wouldn't you consider yourself lucky if that happened?
  • (R) Gengar waits until the last turn to mega. This means it comes dangerously close to losing a duel with a Uxie.
 
Blumenwitz

Blumenwitz

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242140131

Left side:
Not too much silly stuff, aside from Garchomp with Outrage (which isn't a bad move on Garchomp normally, but in a metagame where Klefki is everywhere...)

Right side:
- Regigigas
- Mold Breaker Hawlucha with Aguav Berry getting speed crept by MegaZardX
- The guy preemptively called "gg", thinking his unboosted unburden-less Hawlucha was capable of sweeping a team with a full health Raikou and Metagross still waiting in the back.

  • (L) Um...the Friendship is Magic-themed team has only one actual pony (Keldeo). Seriously, no Rapidash? (Would've helped him, too, with Jirachi and Genesect on the other side.)
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Shouldn't Trevenant have been Fluttershy? :P
 
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Lukethehedgehog

Lukethehedgehog

Blumenwitz said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242140131

Left side:
Not too much silly stuff, aside from Garchomp with Outrage (which isn't a bad move on Garchomp normally, but in a metagame where Klefki is everywhere...)

Right side:
- Regigigas
- Mold Breaker Hawlucha with Aguav Berry getting speed crept by MegaZardX
- The guy preemptively called "gg", thinking his unboosted unburden-less Hawlucha was capable of sweeping a team with a full health Raikou and Metagross still waiting in the back.



Shouldn't Trevenant have been Fluttershy? :P
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You forgot that MegaZard had Crunch. Also, why the fuck do people use Aguav Berry? Don't they know Sitrus Berry exists? I wish Zarel would remove them from the teambuilder so people stop using it, I see it way more often that I would like to.

Actually, that's not a bad idea, Zarel
 
Akumeoy

Akumeoy

Lukethehedgehog said:
You forgot that MegaZard had Crunch. Also, why the fuck do people use Aguav Berry? Don't they know Sitrus Berry exists? I wish Zarel would remove them from the teambuilder so people stop using it, I see it way more often that I would like to.

Actually, that's not a bad idea, Zarel
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They use Aguav Berry because it's the first vaguely useful-looking Item listed in the teambuilder. That's also why you keep seeing Kyogres with Aqua Tail, Avalanche, and Blizzard (and sometimes Brick Break). I suspect we'd see more Air Balloons if it were removed from the teambuilder.

I can understand a lot of the stuff in this thread 'cause it's just people playing with themed teams or teams they like (it is, after all, Anything Goes, and one doesn't have to play to win), but just slapping convenient moves and items onto top-tier threats? C'mon. Love yourself.
 

michaeloche

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242455815

Left:
-Two Charizards, and of course, only one was mega.
-The one that did mega was Mega Y and had Dynamic Punch, Fire Spin, Double Team, and Flame Charge.
-Avalanche Primal Kyogre. If you really want to use its Attack stat, go with Earthquake to hit Primal Groudon or something. At least it got some kills.
-Hyper Beam Xerneas. It missed. Twice.

Right:
-Focus Blast Darkrai has its uses, but hitting Zard Y is not one of them. Same goes for Blizzard.
-Draco Meteor Zekrom, which seems like a rather subpar option in general, more so in AG with stuff like Xerneas and Klefki being everywhere. It later used Volt Switch on Groudon.
-Non-mega Rayquaza with Focus Blast, which hits... what exactly? Especially since it also had Earthquake for Steels.
-Normal Kyurem with Shadow Claw and Hyper Voice, holding a Rocky Helmet.
-Kyurem-White with Toxic and Outrage, also managing to take out both of lefty's Charizards with Stone Edge.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242462418
Run in fear from... the Red team. Not that the mediocre Unova team would have gotten anywhere. At least his Audino's nickname was accurate.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242460292
Ash team (with everything not named Pikachu at least being fully evolved) vs. Red team from the manga. And don't even get me started on the stupid things these guys used.
 
AWILDBIBAREL

AWILDBIBAREL

michaeloche said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242455815

Left:
-Two Charizards, and of course, only one was mega.
-The one that did mega was Mega Y and had Dynamic Punch, Fire Spin, Double Team, and Flame Charge.
-Avalanche Primal Kyogre. If you really want to use its Attack stat, go with Earthquake to hit Primal Groudon or something. At least it got some kills.
-Hyper Beam Xerneas. It missed. Twice.

Right:
-Focus Blast Darkrai has its uses, but hitting Zard Y is not one of them. Same goes for Blizzard.
-Draco Meteor Zekrom, which seems like a rather subpar option in general, more so in AG with stuff like Xerneas and Klefki being everywhere. It later used Volt Switch on Groudon.
-Non-mega Rayquaza with Focus Blast, which hits... what exactly? Especially since it also had Earthquake for Steels.
-Normal Kyurem with Shadow Claw and Hyper Voice, holding a Rocky Helmet.
-Kyurem-White with Toxic and Outrage, also managing to take out both of lefty's Charizards with Stone Edge.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242462418
Run in fear from... the Red team. Not that the mediocre Unova team would have gotten anywhere. At least his Audino's nickname was accurate.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242460292
Ash team (with everything not named Pikachu at least being fully evolved) vs. Red team from the manga. And don't even get me started on the stupid things these guys used.
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Draco Meteor Zekrom used to be a thing :( Now Zekrom only runs Volt Switch specially. Outrage on Kyu-w too used to be a thing for blobs.
Uh, maybe Focus Blast hits... Bronzong? V-create could cover that too, and super effectively.
lol Unova guy was running Stoutland and Exca but with no autosand setter (exca?)
Also, Venusaur in that match kept using Earthquake on the other Venusaur. They do know that their secondary STAB is neutral and Earthquake is too right?

To jordanthejq12's earlier post: Lava Plume is good on support p-don since it nabs every ko you want (even with a - nature) and has a high burn chance. He probably should have gotten rid of PuP though.
 
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jordanthejq12

jordanthejq12

Akumeoy said:
I can understand a lot of the stuff in this thread 'cause it's just people playing with themed teams or teams they like (it is, after all, Anything Goes, and one doesn't have to play to win), but just slapping convenient moves and items onto top-tier threats? C'mon. Love yourself.
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This is pretty much the thread in a nutshell. That's why I usually don't call out mons (except NFEs without Eviolites), but focus instead on bad sets and items. You want to use Lapras? Go for it. Using physical Lapras with a Red Card? We have a problem.

Spin Da (Pig) said:
Lava Plume is good on support p-don since it nabs every ko you want (even with a - nature) and has a high burn chance. He probably should have gotten rid of PuP though.
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I keep forgetting Groudon has no good physical Fire moves. Strangely, everybody loves Scald, but Lava Plume and Discharge (literally same move, different types) don't get the same hype. Ah, whatever.

michaeloche said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-242460292
Ash team (with everything not named Pikachu at least being fully evolved) vs. Red team from the manga. And don't even get me started on the stupid things these guys used.
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Well, you can get me started:
  • (R) I believe that's Red's squad from Special, judging by the presence of Poliwrath and Gyarados.
  • (L) Tauros, Infernape, and all three Kanto starters. Here's what he could've also had (without the mega slot): Talonflame, Goodra (DAMNIT HE RELEASED IT! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! [/endrant], Hawlucha, Greninja, Noivern, Heracross, Donphan, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Garchomp, Emboar, Serperior, or Krokodile. And you go with Tauros? (Charizard better be the mega, that's all I'm saying.)
  • (L) Venusaur using Solar Beam without sun. I'm hoping at this point he's got a Drought/Chlorophyll thing going with Zard Y, but you kinda need the Drought before you can Chlorophyll.
  • (L) Intimidate Tauros. So not only do you use the bull when you have many very good Pokemon to choose from, you don't even do it right.
  • (R) Mega Venusaur with EQ and Sleep Powder, which isn't really bad per se...but then it has Giga Drain (good) and Leaf Storm. You're not Serperior, and you also have no Poison STAB.
  • (L) Non-mega Charizard with, of course, Fly. Can you at least use Air Slash?
  • (R) I'll let Aqua Tail slide on Gyarados. But not Flamethrower and Surf. Also, if Pikachu was running Nasty Plot, it would've won the exchange.
  • Um, Gyarados' two attacks to 55% followed by 50.7%. Something was up with Showdown there.
  • (L) Blastoise predicts the Venusaur switch-in and then gets a freeze. Somebody's lucky and at least knows type matchups.
  • (R) Red wins this one handily, although switching in Gyarados on an EQ when Aerodactyl could've finished it off is questionable.
 
InfernapeTropius11

InfernapeTropius11

get on my level
jordanthejq12 said:
This is pretty much the thread in a nutshell. That's why I usually don't call out mons (except NFEs without Eviolites), but focus instead on bad sets and items. You want to use Lapras? Go for it. Using physical Lapras with a Red Card? We have a problem.


I keep forgetting Groudon has no good physical Fire moves. Strangely, everybody loves Scald, but Lava Plume and Discharge (literally same move, different types) don't get the same hype. Ah, whatever.


Well, you can get me started:
  • (R) I believe that's Red's squad from Special, judging by the presence of Poliwrath and Gyarados.
  • (L) Tauros, Infernape, and all three Kanto starters. Here's what he could've also had (without the mega slot): Talonflame, Goodra (DAMNIT HE RELEASED IT! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! [/endrant], Hawlucha, Greninja, Noivern, Heracross, Donphan, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Garchomp, Emboar, Serperior, or Krokodile. And you go with Tauros? (Charizard better be the mega, that's all I'm saying.)
  • (L) Venusaur using Solar Beam without sun. I'm hoping at this point he's got a Drought/Chlorophyll thing going with Zard Y, but you kinda need the Drought before you can Chlorophyll.
  • (L) Intimidate Tauros. So not only do you use the bull when you have many very good Pokemon to choose from, you don't even do it right.
  • (R) Mega Venusaur with EQ and Sleep Powder, which isn't really bad per se...but then it has Giga Drain (good) and Leaf Storm. You're not Serperior, and you also have no Poison STAB.
  • (L) Non-mega Charizard with, of course, Fly. Can you at least use Air Slash?
  • (R) I'll let Aqua Tail slide on Gyarados. But not Flamethrower and Surf. Also, if Pikachu was running Nasty Plot, it would've won the exchange.
  • Um, Gyarados' two attacks to 55% followed by 50.7%. Something was up with Showdown there.
  • (L) Blastoise predicts the Venusaur switch-in and then gets a freeze. Somebody's lucky and at least knows type matchups.
  • (R) Red wins this one handily, although switching in Gyarados on an EQ when Aerodactyl could've finished it off is questionable.
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You forgot this:

★Ash Kechumpt:DESPIERTA TAUROSS MEJOR POKEMON MEJOR PERSONA
★Ash Kechumpt:PUTA MADRE!7

★EXTREMO Z: pelea ash me estoy aburriendo
★EXTREMO Z: ASH VAMOS PELEAA

lololol
 
Lukethehedgehog

Lukethehedgehog

★Ash Kechumpt:WAKE UP TAUROSS BEST POKEMON BETTER PERSON
★Ash Kechumpt:DAMN IT!7 (How do you make this typo they're not even close)

★EXTREMO Z: ash fight im bored
★EXTREMO Z: ASH COME ON FIIGHT
 
jordanthejq12

jordanthejq12

Instead of saying damnit, he seemed to be calling Red's mother a certain word I shall not repeat. (We all know what she was doing with Professor Oak, though.)

Enough of that. Here's another replay.
  • (R) Aegislash with Return. Normal coverage...is not best coverage, sadly.
  • (L) Gallade using Drain Punch on Aegislash, and also with Shadow Sneak and Sucker Punch, the latter of which actually managed to beat it. But seriously, no Knock Off?
  • (R) Mega Gardevoir with Dazzling Gleam. Aside from the obvious problem with this, it gets Moonblast.
  • (L) Garchomp not using a Dragon move on Haxorus, and thus dying to a Dual Chop. (It did get to revenge Gardy, though.)
  • (L) Alakazam using Focus Blast on Heracross instead of a Psychic move. Don't give me predicted switch, either. The possible switches were Garchomp and Braviary, both of which take more from STAB Psychic/Psyshock. Also, this was a MoxieCross. You can imagine how the rest of the battle turned out.
  • Nobody switching, except for Haxorus Volt Switching once.
 
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