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CAP 1 Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Poll 12

Discussion in 'CAP Process Archive' started by Cooper, Jan 9, 2008.

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What evolutionary stage will Syclant be at?

Poll closed Jan 11, 2008.
  1. Basic (it doesn't evolve or have pre-evos)

    28 vote(s)
    13.3%
  2. Secondary (it has a pre-evo, but doesn't evolve)

    137 vote(s)
    64.9%
  3. Final (two pre-evos)

    46 vote(s)
    21.8%
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  1. Cooper

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    Uh... yeah. By looking at the results of Poll 11, I think we can all tell easily enough who the winner of the sprite contest is. So it's time to start Poll 12, which should be the second to last poll (the last being dex entry). That means we're almost done! Yay! Here's what all of our hard work has given us:

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    [​IMG] Syclant
    Bug/Ice
    Ability: Compound Eyes/ Mountaineer
    70/ 116/ 70/ 114/ 64/ 121

    Mountaineer: This pokemon takes no indirect or direct damage from Rock type attacks upon switching in. This doesn't block additional effects.

    Movepool:

    Level:
    - Thunder Fang
    - Fire Fang
    - Ice Fang
    - Leech life
    - Leer
    - Ice Shard
    10 Focus Energy
    15 Knock Off
    17 Slash
    20 Bite
    28 Icy Wind
    32 X-Scissor
    40 Night Slash
    49 Ice Punch
    55 Bug Buzz
    65 Sheer Cold

    TMs/HMs:
    TM03: Water Pulse
    TM06: Toxic
    TM07: Hail
    TM10: Hidden Power
    TM12: Taunt
    TM13: Ice Beam
    TM14: Blizzard
    TM15: Hyper Beam
    TM16: Light Screen
    TM17: Protect
    TM18: Rain Dance
    TM21: Frustration
    TM27: Return
    TM28: Dig
    TM31: Brick Break
    TM32: Double Team
    TM33: Reflect
    TM39: Rock Tomb
    TM40: Aerial Ace
    TM41: Torment
    TM42: Facade
    TM43: Secret Power
    TM44: Attract
    TM45: Rest
    TM46: Thief
    TM47: Steel Wing
    TM51: Roost
    TM52: Focus Blast
    TM54: False Swipe
    TM56: Fling
    TM58: Endure
    TM60: Drain Punch
    TM62: Silver Wind
    TM63: Embargo
    TM65: Shadow Claw
    TM66: Payback
    TM68: Giga Impact
    TM70: Flash
    TM71: Stone Edge
    TM72: Avalanche
    TM75: Swords Dance
    TM78: Captivate
    TM80: Rock Slide
    TM81: X-Scissor
    TM82: Sleep Talk
    TM83: Natural Gift
    TM84: Poison Jab
    TM87: Swagger
    TM89: U-Turn
    TM90: Substitute
    TM91: Flash Cannon
    HM01: Cut
    HM03: Fly (for those bitching that this doesn't fly, explain Doduo)
    HM04: Strength
    HM06: Rock Smash

    Egg Moves (Bug Group):

    - Earth Power (Trapinch)
    - Superpower (Pincir)
    - Spikes (Forretress)
    - Counter (Forretress)
    - Air Slash (Scyther, Scizor)
    - Crunch (Skorupi, Drapion)

    This time we'll be voting for evolutions/lack of them. I believe it was Cyzir who had already done two of them, so all we're really doing here is deciding whether this is a basic pokemon, a second stage, or a third. Split-evos are out of the question because of this:

    So there. Your choices here are pretty simple, basically yes or no. This poll closes in two days. I also need a compilation of dex entries. especially one involving a Magcargo.
  2. Cooper

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    I voted secondary. Syclant is definitely too good to be found in the wild (unless we want it to be legendary), but three evolutions is dumb. I think it should work along the lines of Weavile, where it's a moderately good first stage but gets a lot better upon evolving.
  3. Jenigmat

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    Voted Secondary. Just cause I think it'd be the coolest.

    BTW, Cooper, I just want to say that we as a community owe you a thank you. You've done an excellent job managing, overviewing and planning out this project, and thanks to this our creation is actually something we can feel proud of. :-)
  4. Gothic Togekiss

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    Went with Secondary for about the same reason as Cooper.
  5. Larvitar Star

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    Secondary, and will a pre evo be created?
  6. Deck Knight

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    "One fateful day a SYCLANT colony was foraging on a snowpeaked volcano, and had the misfortune of mistaking a SPHEAL for a MAGCARGO; it was incinerated."

    "Known as the 'bullies of the mountain,' SYCLANT often coerce DELIBIRD to give up their presents, as a single DELIBIRD present can sustain a larval unit for an entire week. Exploding presents tend to end with a stuffed DELIBIRD dinner."
  7. J-Man27

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    Secondary would be nice. Could JSC's art be how the pre evo looks? But of Cyzir has some pics drawn thats cool too.
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    Looks wrong for basic. Secondary please.
  9. GengarCrysis92

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    Dito to secondary. I mean i did suggest the split evo, but i really didn't think it would work out. So yeah. My idea for a pre-evo, that would work along with my idea for a Dex entry [I will edit it in shortly] would be Cyzir's first Pic of Scylant w/o the wings and on his feet. I will get that Pic edited in also. So brb.

    EDIT:
    Pre-evo's Entries:

    1st: This POKEMON searches for food in groups and will not return to the colony until food has been found.
    2nd: While searching for food in packs, and adult [Insert final Evo name here] accompanies this POKEMON incase of any danger.

    EDIT2: This is the Pre-Evo pic I was thinking of: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=852067&postcount=175 It is #1. im thinking if we change the color just a little and shorten the arms, it would work very well with the "Hunting" them and would work as a Pre-Evo. Opinions?

    I still have to get the Pic in so give me a few.
  10. Tsukikage

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    Secondary; Way too good for basic.
  11. GengarCrysis92

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    I edited my post with what I think the Pre-Evo should loook like and the Dex entry. Tell me what ya think! Also Cyzir made the sprite as a Pose for Scylant, but I think it looks good as a Pre-Evo.
  12. ParanoidDrone

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    Voted for secondary.

    Is the movepool for this thing finalized yet?
  13. Andren

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    Secondary.

    It's far too beast to have no pre-evo (seriously, you wouldn't just find it in the wild), but it is enough so that it needs a single pre-evo. Not very good sense-making here, but deal with it.
  14. CyzirVisheen

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    I designed Syclant as a secondary or final evolution, but I'm going with secondary. Also, I dug this up from the original art thread, but yeah:
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    I think the pre-evo should look like the one on the upper left hand corner. Kind of like my first Syclant prototype, [​IMG], without the cannon arms, a smaller abdomen, and smaller legs. Basically, a smaller version.
  15. blastoiselover100

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    I do not know. I said basic, because, come on, look at Heracross.
  16. Tsukikage

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    I would think a new sprite is in order for this. Cyzir's prototype looks a bit too much like the evo, and the arms should be narrower IMO.
  17. MegaMewtwo

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    Voted secondary for reasons stated to death already, although I can see wild ones in a post-game area similar to the cave with Mewtwo.

    Also, baby Syclant is adorable, but its appearance might cause some trouble with some planned egg moves.
  18. CyzirVisheen

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    Well, Ice/Fire/Thunderpunch Gastly manages just fine :P. Nah, but seriously, at this point it'll be pretty easy to work around.
  19. GengarCrysis92

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    As i said in my Earlier post, that mini-Scylant would work really well as a Pre-Evo. If the arms were made smaller.
  20. sanjay120

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    Voted one pre-evo and nominating Cyzir's design.
  21. GengarCrysis92

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    Man, where has everyone been? I have been advocating for that design since Poll 10, i think.
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    I absolutely adore these sprites. The first is really good for a pre evo. It's too bad we couldn't use the second sprite for Syclant...it looks perfect when you add wings/Ice crystals and make the eyes more mean.
  23. TaiwaneseDude

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    Secondary please.. seconding everyone's nomination of using Cyzir's design. Looks awesome.
  24. majesty

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    First Evolution: After years of living in the cold, antifreeze has replaced the blood of (insert pre evo name here). This Pokemon thrives in deep snow and blizzards.

    Second Evolution: After gathering victims frozen by blizzards for storage, this pokemon can survive for months without foraging again. This pokemon is seldom seen far from active glaciers.

    Final Evolution: The forelimbs of this pokemon have become ice cannons, enabling it to freeze victims on demand. It is often aggressive, having a voracious appetite for newly frozen victims.
  25. Goodbar

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    lol, poll over, start 13 :P

    @ majesty - I'm not sure if I like the idea of such a carnivorous pokemon

    Ash Ketchum: "Go Syclant" *in annoying nasally voice*
    Syclant: *eats Ash*

    hmmm, maybe this isn't such a bad idea...
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