I'm about to start working on a little project, mostly for myself, dealing with what the minimum stat is to guarantee a definite OHKO or 2HKO on specific popular walls or just OU standards, and would like to hear all your opinions on it. This is assuming perfect IVs in all of the defender's stats.
Using Misty's damage calculation app (found for anyone wanting it here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21084), I'm going to find things like the minumum Sp.A stat required to OHKO a Rhyperior with Energy Ball in sandstorm, for example. This will assume that if it makes sense for the opponent to max their stats, they will. For things like Rhyperior, most users have other stats they'd rather max over Sp.D, so we'll assume that it simply is working off that 55 base, 31 IVs and sandstorm support, netting a total of 219 Sp.D. Let's assume there's no STAB or other multipliers besides the Super Effectiveness. Assume also that the Rhyperior has max HP (434). After plugging it into the calculator as so:
/dam <Sp.A stat> <219> <80> <434> * 2.67
219 as the Rhyperior's Sp.D in sandstorm, 80 as the Energy Ball's base stat, and 434 as the Rhyperior's max HP. The move would be multiplied by 4 because it's super effective twice, and factoring in Hard Rock, would be reduced to 2.67.
And practically playing a guess-and-check game to find the lowest Sp.A stat that would guarantee a minimum of at least 100.0% damage. In this example, the Sp.A stat that we're finding would be 620.
This also means that having half of that stat, 310, would render a guaranteed 2HKO, doing exactly 50% damage [Not counting in Leftovers, yet].
So, let's say a Timid Alakazam with 31 IVs in Sp.A wanted to know how many EVs it should have to 2HKO a Rhyperior with Energy Ball. Knowing that the desired stat to attain is 310, and knowing that it's Sp.A without any EVs is 306, it would be easy to realize that 16 EVs are needed to reach this stat.
Now then, I just started doing calculations such as these, and want to know if I'm doing them correctly, if I should continue or not, or if it'll help at all anyway. If you all believe this to be a worthy project, I'd like to ask for a list of walls and their respective attack that would be used against them (Such as Rhyperior and Energy Ball in this example)
This is, in a way, what many players ask for or what they look for in an Analysis of a poke. I figure instead of making everyone doing calculations and everything on their own, a list posted would be very useful and would save a lot of calculating.
I've decided to start off by listing all the walls that I'm going to do for now. So far I have (in no particular order):
~Rhyperior
~Blissey
~Skarmory
~Cresselia
~Claydol
~Dusknoir
~Foretress
~Snorlax
~Slowbro
~Suicune
~Milotic
~Swampert
~Hippowdon
~Gliscor
~Weezing
~Donphan
~Bronzong
~Regice
~Vaporeon
~Miltank
~Tangrowth
If this is redundant or a waste of time in any way, please let me know before I throw valuable time out of the window doing this. Also, on the other hand, if anyone is interested in helping me with this project, I'd love that a lot. Keep in mind that I'm still a noob... but at least I'm an aspiring noob. Let me know what you guys think.
Anyone wanting to contact me can add me on AIM (Double Edge 216), MSN (spidersonic@gmail.com), Yahoo (jptomici@yahoo.com), or can PM me or email me at spidersonic@gmail.com. Any support will be appreciated and welcomed.
(Edit: Elaborated on my example and added ways of contacting me.)
(Edit: Corrected my math after being alerted by Lemmiwinks MkII)
Using Misty's damage calculation app (found for anyone wanting it here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21084), I'm going to find things like the minumum Sp.A stat required to OHKO a Rhyperior with Energy Ball in sandstorm, for example. This will assume that if it makes sense for the opponent to max their stats, they will. For things like Rhyperior, most users have other stats they'd rather max over Sp.D, so we'll assume that it simply is working off that 55 base, 31 IVs and sandstorm support, netting a total of 219 Sp.D. Let's assume there's no STAB or other multipliers besides the Super Effectiveness. Assume also that the Rhyperior has max HP (434). After plugging it into the calculator as so:
/dam <Sp.A stat> <219> <80> <434> * 2.67
219 as the Rhyperior's Sp.D in sandstorm, 80 as the Energy Ball's base stat, and 434 as the Rhyperior's max HP. The move would be multiplied by 4 because it's super effective twice, and factoring in Hard Rock, would be reduced to 2.67.
And practically playing a guess-and-check game to find the lowest Sp.A stat that would guarantee a minimum of at least 100.0% damage. In this example, the Sp.A stat that we're finding would be 620.
This also means that having half of that stat, 310, would render a guaranteed 2HKO, doing exactly 50% damage [Not counting in Leftovers, yet].
So, let's say a Timid Alakazam with 31 IVs in Sp.A wanted to know how many EVs it should have to 2HKO a Rhyperior with Energy Ball. Knowing that the desired stat to attain is 310, and knowing that it's Sp.A without any EVs is 306, it would be easy to realize that 16 EVs are needed to reach this stat.
Now then, I just started doing calculations such as these, and want to know if I'm doing them correctly, if I should continue or not, or if it'll help at all anyway. If you all believe this to be a worthy project, I'd like to ask for a list of walls and their respective attack that would be used against them (Such as Rhyperior and Energy Ball in this example)
This is, in a way, what many players ask for or what they look for in an Analysis of a poke. I figure instead of making everyone doing calculations and everything on their own, a list posted would be very useful and would save a lot of calculating.
I've decided to start off by listing all the walls that I'm going to do for now. So far I have (in no particular order):
~Rhyperior
~Blissey
~Skarmory
~Cresselia
~Claydol
~Dusknoir
~Foretress
~Snorlax
~Slowbro
~Suicune
~Milotic
~Swampert
~Hippowdon
~Gliscor
~Weezing
~Donphan
~Bronzong
~Regice
~Vaporeon
~Miltank
~Tangrowth
If this is redundant or a waste of time in any way, please let me know before I throw valuable time out of the window doing this. Also, on the other hand, if anyone is interested in helping me with this project, I'd love that a lot. Keep in mind that I'm still a noob... but at least I'm an aspiring noob. Let me know what you guys think.
Anyone wanting to contact me can add me on AIM (Double Edge 216), MSN (spidersonic@gmail.com), Yahoo (jptomici@yahoo.com), or can PM me or email me at spidersonic@gmail.com. Any support will be appreciated and welcomed.
(Edit: Elaborated on my example and added ways of contacting me.)
(Edit: Corrected my math after being alerted by Lemmiwinks MkII)