Like the great Shofu mentioned in one of his live streams, talonflame is also hard walled by heatran and rotom-w ;)What current OU mons are safe switch ins for this beast? Once it gets a SD up, there's not a whole lot that can stop it, seems like. Pretty much forced to run ttar
Heatran maybe.Like the great Shofu mentioned in one of his live streams, talonflame is also hard walled by heatran and rotom-w ;)
i think you should run enough speed to outrun a mega lucario imo i think every tallonflame just run enough speed to outrun base 112 speed becuase you want to make sure mega lucario dies with flare blitz imo.So I've started running a defensive Bulk Up set and it's doing very well.
Talonflame @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 196 SDef / 248 HP / 64 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Roost
- Will-O-Wisp
- Brave Bird
- Bulk Up
It allows it to be both a late game threat and a midgame pivot. I've been giving it Defog support and it's been great. The priority roost and brave bird are what really makes the set and the ability to burn switchins has been great.
Atm I'm running just enough speed to outspeed Jolly Garchomp, but I have seen a few Terrakions that have been making me think I should run a little more. But the bulk over speed keeps winning out seeing as half my moves are priority anyway.
it isn't going to die in 1 brave bird since it resists it and then you take a hydro pump to the face and die, seems like a pretty standard check to meI don't know if rotom-w checks talonflame.
It can't take many stab brave birds.
Heatran is the only reliably check due to its defenses.
I would like to point something out. I was having a battle yesterday against my friend and we are both fairly reasonable and competant skill. so when I derped and protected my blaziken for a speed boost against a azumarill and let him set up belly drum aqua jet, It looked all over. he stood at three pokemon, and a nasty little water rabbit was the threat. and I had two (Greninja and Talonflame) All I could do was rely on my Phenoix. And thats what I did. And he priority brave birded his remaining 3 Pokemon for OHKOs. This thing is great a a lifeline. Priority OHKO a Mega gengar is good. infact anything not resisting with only average defenses cant uasually take a hit from this guy when banded.I've been legitimately surprised by Talonflame, it hasn't been that bad in OU so far in the matches I've played. I realy underestimated the power of priority Brave Bird, it makes revenge killing a lot easier, and lowers the need for a team to carry a dedicated revenge killer. Of course, Talonflame isn't outstanding at all, but it's able to threaten suicide leads like no other, and can hit a lot of the potential top threats in the meta super effectively!
I totally agree. I almost want to go back in time and strangle myself for calling this thing overhyped and overrated. Like, this thing is such a threat to like 75% of my teams that I find myself running a Rotom-W on almost all of my teams just because it's one of the few Pokemon that can tank the deadly Fire/Flying combination comfortably and check it. It's a shame that most of the ones that I'm seeing are using All Out Attacking Life Orb Brave Bird and not SD or BU Acrobatics sets, which are easily the more terrifying sets thanks to its lack of recoil and insane power. I've tried both the BU set and the SD set, and it's hard to pinpoint which is probably the best right now. I think the SD set is more terrifying because it boosts it power to insane levels and it can clean up so easily, but the BU set, while harder to setup, can actually make Talonflame just plow through teams with ease if it gets an opportunity to setup. Speaking of which, setting up is actually easier at times then I thought, because it forces so many switches. But yeah, my god this thing is just so scary. If it's common enough, I wouldn't be surprised if Rhyperior will see the light of OU because it's one of the best counters to this thing in the game. Tyrantrum's a pretty nice switch-in too. I kind of compare this thing to Volcarona in a way, because yes it's incredibly weak to Stealth Rock and it needs a decent amount of support to succeed, but it's just so good that it doesn't even matter.God damn, this thing is so insane... we underestimated it like crazy. I highly doubt this thing will be UU-- it just is so deadly if given even the slightest opening to set up.