I know, right?! I still remember the huge boost Luke got when Garchomp was banned and now Salamence is staring down that same barrel. Happy days for Lucario. I think the lack of Latias is slightly detrimental to Luke though as he loved setting up on Scarfed Dragon attacks or mono-attackers but the removal of Salamence, a Pokemon who checked him quite well and was super-common is compensation tenfold.FlareBlitz said:I'm really loving Luke in this metagame.
Thank you, this is the point I was trying to make earlier. Everyone is hyping ape and ya its good, but there is no reason it shouldn't have worked prior to Latias. Especially if you run U-Turn + ScarfTarI know, right?! I still remember the huge boost Luke got when Garchomp was banned and now Salamence is staring down that same barrel. Happy days for Lucario. I think the lack of Latias is slightly detrimental to Luke though as he loved setting up on Scarfed Dragon attacks or mono-attackers but the removal of Salamence, a Pokemon who checked him quite well and was super-common is compensation tenfold.
And this Infernape hype is really getting to me. If Infernape was so good then why didn't you just put in the effort to Pursuit Latias and reap the rewards of this apparently unstoppable Pokemon?
Maybe the removal of latias has left many teams ape weak and haven't gone around replacing that slot. NPnape, mix ape are up on the rise, haven't seen these for a very long time.Thank you, this is the point I was trying to make earlier. Everyone is hyping ape and ya its good, but there is no reason it shouldn't have worked prior to Latias. Especially if you run U-Turn + ScarfTar
Evasion/OHKO ClauseWe don't ban specific moves on Pokemon, otherwise we would have probably already banned Stealth Rock and possibly things like Baton Pass on Mew to make it OU.
Soul Dew clause? it was the only justification for making Latias OU at all. Garchomp deserves to stay in Ubers because he's a beast with or without Outrage.We don't ban specific moves on Pokemon, otherwise we would have probably already banned Stealth Rock and possibly things like Baton Pass on Mew to make it OU.
Awesome. To say that "anything goes" in this suspect metagame is a gross exaggeration--I mean, some Pokemon are UU/NU for a reason--but with less Dragons, there's a lot more diversity you can explore since you're not stuck worrying about Salamence appearing on every third team to kill the shit out of your Tangrowth or whatever. The popularity of Salamence and Latias discouraged diversity to the max, so the chance to finally try some novel concepts (hopefully not gimmicks) is very welcome.The result will be an OU that looks a lot like UU, whose best Dragon-type is Altaria (who isn't that great). It will be slower, more decentralized, and have a greater diversity of types.
Theorymon.Gonna start on Suspect when I get off work tonight. Since I'm pretty bad at stall vs. stall matches, I'll probably be playing a wallbreaking-oriented team to beat the inevitable stallfest.
Removing Salamence from the metagame will mean that there are no top-tier Dragons left in OU, which means that Steels will fall as well in terms of usage, because there will be more Fire, Fighting, and Ground-type attacks flying around in Salamence's absence.
The result will be an OU that looks a lot like UU, whose best Dragon-type is Altaria (who isn't that great). It will be slower, more decentralized, and have a greater diversity of types.
I've played a few suspect matches and most of the time it comes down to stupid stall with loads of switching just bores the crap out of me.Gonna start on Suspect when I get off work tonight. Since I'm pretty bad at stall vs. stall matches, I'll probably be playing a wallbreaking-oriented team to beat the inevitable stallfest.
Removing Salamence from the metagame will mean that there are no top-tier Dragons left in OU, which means that Steels will fall as well in terms of usage, because there will be more Fire, Fighting, and Ground-type attacks flying around in Salamence's absence.
The result will be an OU that looks a lot like UU, whose best Dragon-type is Altaria (who isn't that great). It will be slower, more decentralized, and have a greater diversity of types.