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VGC Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer - Mark II

Discussion in 'Past Format Discussion' started by Solace, Aug 11, 2012.

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  1. TheMantyke

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    The Politoed might be carrying an Iron Ball if you haven't seen Politoed's item activate.
  2. Golden Piloswine

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    Ah, I might've overlooked that. Do Politoed usually carry Fling?
  3. Biosci

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    No, no they don't
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    They don't, but some people run Iron Ball on their weather starters to help win the lead matchup against other weathers (since the slowest one activates their ability last).
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    I did'nt know this. I thought it was based on who punched their team in last during the team preview.
  6. Solace

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    lol not at all.. that's certainly not the mechanic. Weather activation is controlled by speed, so weather users tend to use a lower speed IV.
  7. Golden Piloswine

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    I know that Ninetales is the only not Uber Drought, (besides Vulpix) but would'nt Politoed, T-Tar, and Hippodown have the advantage since they have significantly lower speeds. So in that case is Sun bad to use?
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    Sun has a number of issues to surmount and outspeed enemy weather inducers is one of them. A good sun team can be made, but oftentimes Ninetales will have to be played differently from a Politoed. Sometimes, it will sit in the back waiting for your opponent to switch in their weather inducer. Other teams might give Ninetales an Iron Ball to nearly guarantee their sun turn one.
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    Although its very risky is using entry hazards and phasers in doubles viable. Being able to set them up and successfully phazing is hard enough but if you were able to pull it off, would it do any good?
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    It might, but with negative priority from phaze moves and the turn spent setting up hazards, you end up in a pretty bad position to take hits in exchange for negligible damage.
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    Pretty much the only hazard I can see working at all is Toxic Spikes. Since the concept of checks and counters doesn't really exist like singles, and healing is difficult, you can't force many switches so you'd have to actively use the hazards, and the damage that Spikes/SR can do per turn is less than your typical bulky attacker will be doing with direct damage.
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    Stealth Rocks or one layer of Toxic Spikes is about as good as you can reasonably get in VGC due to how fast paced it is. If it's a typical VGC battle with no switches from your opponent (or one or two due to a terrible lead matchup), you'll at most hit two Pokemon out of 4 with Rocks/Spikes. You would have been better off hitting with a status move like Toxic, Thunder Wave, or Will-O-Wisp instead. Also, you'll often do more damage just attacking outright than using Stealth Rocks.

    VGC battles are done in 15 minutes; it's rare for it to last more than 10 rounds. A lot of common Pokemon seen in VGC are immune to Toxic Spikes anyhow (Cresselia, Metagross, Zapdos, Scizor, the genies, Rotom, most Dragons except Garchomp and Haxorus), and most just shrug off Stealth Rocks; I can't think of many situations where even 25% damage from rocks will net a KO that you'd otherwise miss. Pokemon hit 50% by rocks are virtually non-existent in VGC.
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    Is tornadus-T allowed in the october regionals? or is it just like vgc 2012 where you can't use it?
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    October Regionals won't allow Tornadus-T or anything from Pokemon BW2.
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    Has Pokemon.com even posted the rules, for October? I know there the same and everything, but they should give some sort of notification.
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    idk what pokemon.com you're looking at. http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/championship-series/vg-autumn-regional-championships/


    What Is the Tournament Format?
    The Autumn Regional series will allow use of only Pokémon Black Version, or Pokémon White Version DS Cartridges, and will be run using Age Modified Swiss (single game) pairings and a cut to a Top 8 (attendance allowing) single elimination finals. Single elimination finals will be run as best 2 out of 3.
    The Video Game Tournament format document, which contains details about Team construction rules and a list of Pokémon that cannot be used in competitive play, can be found here.
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    Additionally, the regionals are still using BW1 carts, so it would be impossible to use Tornadus-T even if it weren't banned.
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    Are the January/April Regionals for sure gonna be different rules than October?
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    We don't know what the rules will be, but they will almost certainly at least include the BW2 changes since the games will have been out for more than a week by then.
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    hey, I've got a question about the game mechanics: is the STAB moves' power still increased after you've been Soaked?
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    Soak will give you STAB on Water attacks, and you will lose STAB on your previous type(s).
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    I have a question about damage modification. If I have a Discharge Zapdos, with Electric Gem, Helping Hand boosted, in a double battle, what will the output be?
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    All those modifiers are multiplicative, so you just multiply Discharge's power by each modification

    Discharge = 80 power
    Multi-targetted: x0.75
    Helping Hand: x1.5
    Electric Gem: x1.5

    80*.75*1.5*1.5= 135 power
    So roughly a boost of 1.7 times a full power Discharge.
  24. Golden Piloswine

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    Thanks! Does it matter in which order you multiply, and I think you forgot STAB.
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    Order only matters if you're doing precise damage calculations where rounding is involved.
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