Project YUM or YUCK: Pokemon Edition

[tazz]

Even though it is not clearly said, when countering SR should always be taken into account just because of how common they are. I have to agree with Rowan here even if is not stated in the OP

 

[Fiend]

TCR has said not to consider it...

 

[Merritt]

Rocks not being up is heavily implied in the OP, due to the ban of Focus Sash mons. Since rocks break pretty much any sash except Abra the fact that it explicitly states that sash isn't allowed suggests to me that rocks aren't to be considered.

Also, if we retroactively account for rocks, at least three counters don't work. I also feel like adding SR to this is kind of unfair, since it means that it's not encouraged to use a rock weak Pokemon over something else, despite the fact that if you're using something like Larvesta in a real game you'd probably have hazard control anyways.

Just my two cents.

 

[S0L1D G0LD]

Rocks not being up is heavily implied in the OP, due to the ban of Focus Sash mons. Since rocks break pretty much any sash except Abra the fact that it explicitly states that sash isn't allowed suggests to me that rocks aren't to be considered.

My personal feeling on this one is that if rocks were considered, sash wouldn't need to be banned, so by excluding it there forms an argument for no rocks.

Also, if we retroactively account for rocks, at least three counters don't work. I also feel like adding SR to this is kind of unfair, since it means that it's not encouraged to use a rock weak Pokemon over something else, despite the fact that if you're using something like Larvesta in a real game you'd probably have hazard control anyways.

Just my two cents.

I also agree with this. The possibility of crippling many Pokemon as effective counters doesn't make the most sense to me.

 

[OP]

Does this really matter? I obviously just made a mistake and Drowzee should have had an even HP number. Just continue from Merritt's Honedge that counters the set I meant to have.

 

[antemortem]

ok anyway

Inkay @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 12 Def / 228 SpD
Brave Nature
- Trick Room
- Knock Off
- Superpower
- Destiny Bond

Anorith @ Life Orb
Ability: Battle Armor
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- X-Scissor
- Rock Blast
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace

e: didn't see OP's post but i don't feel like changing, delete this if you care to continue from honedge lmao

 

[kingmidas]

ok anyway

Anorith @ Life Orb
Ability: Battle Armor
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- X-Scissor
- Rock Blast
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace

e: didn't see OP's post but i don't feel like changing, delete this if you care to continue from honedge lmao

Not a counter because dbond, also on that note can we stop the use of dbond is fucks with the game. A counteree gets perfect prediction so don't respond SD on the dbond

 

[Fiend]

For inkay

Sandshrew @ Eviolite
Ability: Sand Rush
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpA / 36 SpD
Modest Nature
- Sandstorm
- X-Scissor
- Protect
- Earth Power

 

[tcr]

rocks aren't taken into account, its a vaccuum, this has been discussed before but I guess it needs to be explicitly written in the OP for people to get..

Hint, that's why Focus Sash is banned. If rocks were up always then it wouldn't matter if a Pokemon had a focus sash.

 

[Merritt]

For inkay

Sandshrew @ Eviolite
Ability: Sand Rush
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpA / 36 SpD
Modest Nature
- Sandstorm
- X-Scissor
- Protect
- Earth Power

whyyyyyy

Snover @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 116 HP / 40 Def / 184 SpA / 120 SpD / 40 Spe
Modest Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Hail
- Hidden Power Rock

Manual Sand meet Manual Hail

 

[Star]

whyyyyyy

Snover @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 116 HP / 40 Def / 184 SpA / 120 SpD / 40 Spe
Modest Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Hail
- Hidden Power Rock

Manual Sand meet Manual Hail

Vulpix @ Choice Specs
Level: 5
Ability: Drought
EVs: 196 SpA / 240 Spe / 52 HP
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Flamethrower
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power Rock

this is aids

 

[Rowan]

mantyke @ berry juice
level 5
ability swift swim
evs: 76 hp / 200 spa / 36 spD / 196 spe
modest nature
rain dance
hydro pump
air slash
hp ground

 

[antemortem]

Not a counter because dbond, also on that note can we stop the use of dbond is fucks with the game. A counteree gets perfect prediction so don't respond SD on the dbond

lol x scissor ohkoes without an sd boost

 

[kingmidas]

lol x scissor ohkoes without an sd boost

It dbonds on the switch in.....

 

[Max Carvalho]

mantyke @ berry juice
level 5
ability swift swim
evs: 76 hp / 200 spa / 36 spD / 196 spe
modest nature
rain dance
hydro pump
air slash
hp ground

Chinchou @ Air balloon
Level: 5
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 HP / 132 Def / 232 SpA / 60 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power fire (HUE)
- Thunder
Now, try this!
EDIT: oh, and btw. FUCK YOU DIG!

 

[Merritt]

Chinchou @ Air balloon
Level: 5
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 HP / 132 Def / 232 SpA / 60 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power fire (HUE)
- Thunder
Now, try this!
EDIT: oh, and btw. FUCK YOU DIG!

EZ.

Chinchou @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 HP / 212 Def / 148 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Scald
- Thunderbolt

 

[The Avalanches]

EZ.

Chinchou @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 HP / 212 Def / 148 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Scald
- Thunderbolt

Wooper @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 236 HP / 76 Def / 156 SpD
Careful Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Recover

 

[sparktrain]

Bulbasaur @ Life Orb
Level: 5
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 240 SpA / 240 Spe
Modest Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Hidden Power Fire

 

[S0L1D G0LD]

Natu @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 116 Atk / 196 SpA / 196 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Psychic
- Heat Wave
- Sucker Punch
- Dazzling Gleam

 

[Fiend]

Houndour @ Berry Juice
Ability: Early Bird
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Flame Charge
- Nasty Plot
- Dark Pulse

 

[S0L1D G0LD]

Carvanha @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
Level: 5
EVs: 196 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
IVs: 0 Hp
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Aqua Jet
- Super Fang

 

[Merritt]

Fletchling @ Berry Juice
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 196 Atk / 12 Def / 52 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance
- Overheat

Weird EVs you might say? Well it gives Fletchling an even HP number meaning BJ will activate on any move bar the 6.3% chance that Aqua Jet has a low roll. And if you're doing that might as well go for the 6.3% chance of OHKOing on Waterfall.

196+ Atk Life Orb Carvanha Aqua Jet vs. 236 HP / 12 Def Fletchling: 9-13 (37.5 - 54.1%) -- 87.9% chance to 2HKO
(9, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13)
196+ Atk Life Orb Carvanha Waterfall vs. 236 HP / 12 Def Fletchling: 21-25 (87.5 - 104.1%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

196+ Atk Fletchling Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 0 HP / 36 Def Carvanha: 19-24 (100 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[sparktrain]

Omanyte @ Life Orb
Ability: Shell Armor
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Shell Smash
- Hydro Pump
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam

 

[antemortem]

Ferroseed @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 84 HP / 36 Atk / 188 Def / 148 SpD / 36 Spe
Careful Nature
- Bullet Seed
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Thunder Wave

 

[gali]

Blitzle @ Life Orb
Ability: Sap Sipper
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Atk / 24 Def / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 228 Spe
Naive Nature
- Flame Charge
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Volt Switch