NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

Votals 5.1
(3) Stupidflandrs48: Duskfall98, joey, ImaginaryNeon

Voteless: a fairy, bluedoom, Celever, HydrogenHydreigon, Shane the Shroomish, StupidFlandrs48

There are 25.25 hours left in the phase. With 9 alive, it takes 6 to hammer.
 
Hello

Pretty sure I’m parking on flanders today ftr

But I think bluedoom, a fairy, neon and Shane are all town

As mentioned most night kills have cubes flanders, so have I a bit his role is also not really a good claim

Given we have some space I do think he’s just like the best kill here, on paper and it’s our best bet and safest bet
 
Celever said:
I mean I do feel like you're ignoring a large amount of my content yesterday lol

I was fine with Laurel going over from the start of the day but thought it was better to push a fairy first because she's kept evading real pressure. My vote was p much stuck there because I still thought she was above rand scum anyway and the counterwagon of Flandrs didn't convince me. With countewagons going to Laurel / a fairy I had no reason to keep my vote planted any more, so I moved it to help avoid tie and because I scumread Laurel a bit more. I just didn't want a fairy's pressure to die by counterwagon twice by starting it myself lol.

Flandrs' reason for flipping I don't understand so much, but I think you handwaving my vote as "he had to do it to avoid game loss", especially when I didn't so you're also assuming I did it to avoid game loss incorrectly, is you being pretty frozen in your reads.
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I’m not interested in voting you today so I’m Joe really worried about your slot yet anyways ftr

The last period of the day is just completely un ai

You can say you knew or you didn’t know or whatever expect vote counts but the truth is town have no way of being certain if you did know, so it’s pointless, it’s a very real world you were just trying to save tie and the only thing we have to prove that’s not the case is your word

I’m not holding it over you but it’s definitely not something we can consider towny

Pressure on laurel earlier in the day matters more, I’ll reread you tomorrow if I’m alive probably but I’m not bothered much now since you never die today anyways
 
Celever said:
also a fairy's "oh shit is that tie" post happened at the same time me and Flandrs posted. At least I only saw it after I voted, so it's irrelevant.

what about the wagonomics of yesterday do you think makes it T/S a fairy / Laurel? I think S/S better fits your worldview of handwaving me and Flandrs, but you said you thought a fairy's town.
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A fairy eod was very towny and I also think she’s unlikely to be paired with flanders based on their claims being similar, idt mafia got similar fake claims
 
joey said:
This was my "scum potential" list last time:
> I think I have to lean scum because I lean Celever town but I have to read back exactly why people say it's 50/50: Shane
> Could be scum (ordered by scum-likelihood): Laurel, Hydro, bluedoom, a fairy
> Scum imo: Flandrs

Having poked a bit more at the Celever/Shane thing I haven't been given any info that makes it look like a 1v1 to me so I don't think there's anything scummy about Shane anymore.

I still think Flandrs is easily the most scummy person alive, I just don't think he's done anything good for the town and has nearly always been on the wrong side of the opinions. His vote on Laurel really doesn't change anything as you guys have already discussed

Hydro hasn't changed, at all. Haven't seen anything from him that I would call townie so I guess this is POE if I'm using the mafia term correctly

I'm still tinfoiling (another mafia term look at me) bluedoom I guess, I still think his target choices have been weird and I also think it's weird that he gave up and idled it last night? I feel like there's no reason for him not to try and create a chat just in case it ends up doing something, there's not really any potential harm of it. Especially when we have confirmed townies like Tommy and JALMONT I feel like at least trying to neighborize them would've been a better play

a fairy I'm not really scumreading at the moment. I'm moving towards townread but I'm not 100% sure I'm there yet, but if Flandrs is scum I do not think the potential wagons from yesterday were s/s/s. And I think out of the wagons fairy is the most likely town one
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Idling last night was very weird too, he’s been towny in thread (very towny)

But mech wise bluedoom is basically playing in the “how to tank towniness as much as possible” method with a role that that shouldn’t even be possible on
 
Duskfall98 said:
hi
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so I'm thinking about this. I think flanders is a fine lynch but am worried about how much leeway we have in terms of accuracy. Right now my head is at like... 2 from shane/celever/flanders/joey? How sure are you about town!af? I do agree that her reaction at EoD seemed very towny, but wanted to know your thoughts on this

I think if we're right about this then we're on lock here.
 
Votals 5.2
(3) Stupidflandrs48: Duskfall98, joey, ImaginaryNeon

Voteless: a fairy, bluedoom, Celever, HydrogenHydreigon, Shane the Shroomish, StupidFlandrs48

There are 8.25 hours left in the phase. With 9 alive, it takes 6 to hammer.
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
Celever I don't really get the dynamics here, why do you say I'm imbued with the power of a counterwagon today? I have less than zero towncred to the point that even the most ambivalent people express willingness to sheep against me

Duskfall98 Could you answer one question for me before you head out
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Because everyone’s fine w u dying for the most part so it’s up to you to propose and sway people on the alternative, assuming you want to stay alive

Not totally ofc but considering legit everyone is cool w u dying it’s where we’re at yk
 
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