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NOC Smallstreet Mafia v2 Won by the Mafia (Clouds, Ehmcee, Dead By Daylight, Duskfall98)

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AngryPidgeon said:
Alright I havent made a reads list yet which Ill surely regret in the future si here is one:

Probably Town:
Lechen
Alice
Cloud
Pulsar
Ehmcee

Maybe Town:
Flandrs
Skipper

Tilt Town:
NightEmerald
ElectricityCat
HH

I think I would vote anyone not listed here probably. Uhhhhh am I forgetting someone oh Neon. I dont really want to vote Neon but I dont really have much of a read on him at all
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may we get some reasons sir?
 
ElectricityCat said:
I've noticed that suspicions have been raised due to my behavior. This is my first NOC Mafia. I understand that my duty is to be active no matter which side I'm on. I'm learning as I go along :blobthumbsup:. I wasn't being very active because since it's day 1, I didn't think it was possible to draw many conclusions.

Your suspicions are totally understandable. :mehowth:
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scummy but nice post, gets a d1 shield anyways for being new
 
skippergamez said:
I have some questions since I haven’t played in six months-ish

Does DBD play like Jalmont (obsessed with determining maf based on format and posting absolutely wild suggestions)?

nevermind it’s just one question

dbd gives off poorly playing town (no offense this is literally me every game)

Wait actually I have another question

has neon been scum in an NOC setting?

anyways more observations:

M2H has been wildly quiet for what I remember of them but I think they said they have work?

Emerald has been playing to what I remember them as town, similar to HyHy in a way (pops up very breifly to give thoughts) I think they are v productive and would like to see them more!
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i agree with m2h stuff, also think this is towny perspectives from skipper in general
 
Clouds said:
vote M2H

i'm pretty much caught up. kicking up some dust for now, since this isn't a version of M2H i've seen before & passivity is at a high. i thought i remembered them saying they could be busy at some point so it's possible that's factoring in, i couldn't find the post looking back. even with that, something feels off here compared to typical M2H D1s and i wouldn't be surprised to see the "let's massclaim" through the megaphone be an attempt to come across looking like a villager attempting to force progress or something, seems like an approach they'd take as mafia

here's where i'm at roughly for my early village build:

townread: lechen, angrypidgeon
townlean: ehmcee
light townlean: dead by daylight, pulsar(?)

lechen is a read i feel pretty confident in, partially secret reasons but feel free to ask questions if you have any doubts here

angrypidgeon has trended up throughout the course of the day to the point where they'd have to be powerwolfing out of their mind and i'm not gonna entertain that at the moment considering they're the closest thing to a townleader we have, so i'm penciling in their slot as town for now. nothing feels in bad faith enough to have concerns that they're attempting to steer the ship in the wrong direction and even though i don't see level with some of their reads & think some of those townreads are hasty, it doesn't reflect poorly on their alignment

ehmcee i continue to feel good about bar that 1 strange recent post that may have just been me misunderstanding, still not at a place where he compares to the above two for me when i lay my cards out on the table so i'm keeping him a tier down for now

dead by daylight i have more subdued reasons for including where i did, but basically i think that the way he's posting feels "alone" and not like he's being coached. for example, i think the post about the neon policy is something that doesn't get hurled into the night sky in the way he did there if he's mafia without being discussed in a mafia chat first, but this is also rooted in my understanding that he's relatively new to the game

Dead by Daylight how many games have you played prior to this if you don't mind sharing? sorry if i'm incorrect about the above & you do have more experience, i just don't think we've been in a game together or that i've spectated one you've been in

pulsar i've been back and forth on more than anyone else here and i struggle to read her consistently for some reason, but there's been more positive than negative so far and i liked this stretch of posts. there's a level of comfortability here that mafia generally struggle to emulate when laying down reads in thread. it's only bad if she was partnered with ehmcee, but i'm leaning ehmcee town anyways, so i'm stowing away that tinfoil

also, not aligned on the alice townread as of now AngryPidgeon, so would appreciate if you can shed some light on that when possible
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yeah i think clouds is town here, his slight paranoia about me coming into thread does makes sense given the offsite game we just played, i was wondering what he would do and i think he spoke to me in like the most towny way possible because mafia probably would use that game as an excuse to take a hard line (either push me relatively easy, or try pocket me) but clouds uncertainty of me breaks towny/lack of tmi

also in general i agree with m2h reads in thread, ive played with m2h a lot over the years and they are usually fairly black and white if they are town they are billboard town they get so into solving the progression is not possible to fake as mafia, but when they are mafia the content is a lot lower and this just looks like its a mafia rand for them off that

im not really sure i agree with pidgeon, he had a lot of fine posts but he then kind of threw out a huge readslist and maybe its just me being a bit biased after he called me out but it seemed just very big and sudden

no real special thoughts about the second two but i dont think they have done anything actively towny or scummy yet that makes me want to make a hard stance on them
 
skippergamez said:
Wait actually I have another question
has neon been scum in an NOC setting?
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Yes, in A Peaceful Night in the Terms of Service.
Though that was semi-OC, but at least was primarily NOC gameplay but with whispers (which is exactly what I originally thought OC would be when I first heard of it lol).

Also, there's two other games on MU, but they were on a gimmick account, so have fun trying to decipher those. But even then, those are pretty much a scum "game" and a "scum" game, respectively.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/45107
(Was a 109-player mash and as such, I didn't even try to sheet it (and made it well known beforehand that I wouldn't))

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/45717
(I was a lost arsonist so, after accounting for the inherent difference from playing on MU and from playing on the gimmick account, this probably gets closer to a 3P meta than a scum meta.)
 
flanders seems to be solving harder than ive seen him before (before was his first game) overall his gameplay has improved from then for sure but i also think its a towny progression in how hes looking at the game and discussing more openly, trying to connect get peoples thoughts and putting his own out there trying to form a team more than he did in the past and get content going
 
Alice Kazumi said:
Duskfall98: I don't understand his vote on clouds nor his take on him being town if apricity is mafia. I'd like to hear an explanation because if there was I missed it. I wouldn't oppose a vote on him for now. Please explain!
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histroically pre revival hal was the thread leader in basically every game as mafia, and i think the first game of revival it blurs a bit for me, he tended to solve the game and everyone sheep him and if he rolls mafia every still sheeped him until it was basically too late so he was really good at getting misvotes, but the general realisation that people dont know that points towards the fact that wouldnt be the case for a lot of scum teams

on the contrary i was consider the best mafia alignment player back then, so i kind of had it as an either or but i am probably living in nostalgia and/or shouldve checked my ego at the door i guess hahah
 
right now my reads are like so

probably town
Pidgeon - Unless he’s baiting us all by becoming village leader as mafia (which could be done) he’s the closest thing to progress that we have

ECat - I think his posting is more along the lines of confused townie than scum, especially considering this is his first NOC

Neon - Last time he played like this he was scum, but I’ll be willing to say he has become better

As for the townslips, I’m more inclined to believe Kazumi and Ehmcee are town and I have to reread the other slips.
 
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