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NOC Smallstreet Mafia v2 Won by the Mafia (Clouds, Ehmcee, Dead By Daylight, Duskfall98)

StupidFlandrs48 said:
NE summed it up pretty well, but I think if we can choose when to trigger your KP then we should be more responsible to make sure we're getting enough info to use it well in the event that you're town.

The earlier angleshooting about your activity is completely disconnected from the current discussion about your claim and the kind of content you're putting out; I don't want to probe too closely into meta changes based on real-life changes because that gets very speculative and very messy quickly. But to answer you more directly, yes, I am definitely indecisive and scared about you. Your claim, both the role itself and the timing, is hard to stomach, and I feel uncomfortable seeing a version of M2H that departs from the town-leading hypersolver I know and fell back on frequently in previous NOCs. Sue me.
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I really just don't get why everybody is saying that I haven't been solving today when really nobody except for NE has even bothered to engage with my reads list or my TRs on ECat, Lechen, and AP and has just jumped straight to fixating on my tone when FMPOV Clouds (who to his credit has not been on since I started ramping up my activity) and Tommy (who should ONE HUNDRED PERCENT be able to read my as town here) are trying to run me over and then you, NE, and Alice are chilling in the back talking about the appropriate time to kill me when its day one? I usually am pretty calm in thread because I'm just vibing and existing. It is like an established part of my meta that I get very aggressive and defensive when I get pushed. This is not new at all. The main difference is that usually people never start pushing me in the first place, but here I came back to the thread getting pushed because I didn't post for like ~16 hours and I'm suddenly forced to defend myself from being lynched.
 
I've also pretty much caught up with the thread, and I feel like M2H is more scummy than pulsar, although I do feel like we should vote the public no power off, which would semi confirm/deny if M2H is truly a vengeful or not. I don't like M2H's posting about a mass claim, but if they are truly vengeful there is a reason for it ig??
 
Lechen said:
I've also pretty much caught up with the thread, and I feel like M2H is more scummy than pulsar, although I do feel like we should vote the public no power off, which would semi confirm/deny if M2H is truly a vengeful or not. I don't like M2H's posting about a mass claim, but if they are truly vengeful there is a reason for it ig??
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dont doubt the role, doubt the align, like imo there is not a single role strong enough that counterclaims could be negtown
 
NightEmerald said:
if m2h is genuinely fakeclaiming while hoping real vengeful doesnt get on in the last hour befor dl i genuinely will put them in a hall of fame as one of the most insane plays ive ever seen
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Would there be any benefit to mafia claiming a role that one of their teammates has based on who it'd be most convenient to make the claim with? Feels like tinfoil territory but worth asking
 
NightEmerald said:
dont doubt the role, doubt the align, like imo there is not a single role strong enough that counterclaims could be negtown
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it is the case however that mafia cannot take 4 members and vengeful, unless they choose to enable white flag (which is awful and makes vengeful a little worse) AND choose not to take a faith healer (which is doubly bad).

Thus from my point of view, it is highly likely that the comp is 4 members with weakish roles, or some potpouri of roles selected just to throw us off on a 3-man team. I highly lean to the former.
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
Would there be any benefit to mafia claiming a role that one of their teammates has based on who it'd be most convenient to make the claim with? Feels like tinfoil territory but worth asking
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not really? It could potentially be possible with the vote-based roles if I think hard enough about it, but I feel like perpetuating the lie usually would be more effort than its worth
 
pulsar512b said:
intriguing but I think apricitys actions are Nai
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if apricity doesn't do anything by eod today, he is highly likely mafia. Like there is an angle where as town apricity tries to avoid getting n1'd by trolling a little bit, but apricity as scum honestly usually just trolls and maybe gets one or two mislynches off and that's it. I can absolutely see scum!apricity sitting back d1 if town is doing a shit job and then try to take the lead to help town 'recover' d2. Let it be known that there is no world where town apricity stands by and does nothing while me and tommy thunderdome each other d1.
 
to address activity concerns: after a while it seems I stopped getting notifications for this and that meant I spent less time. also lots of pages so hard to read back + my shitass sleep schedule and playing a 2 am mtg tournament means I effectively haven’t gotten to play for 24 hrs
 
Y'know, at least pulsar's moreso "looks bad if Flandrs flips town" whereas M2H is noticeably just...kinda not M2Hing?
M2H WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU, WHY IS YOUR NAME KILOMETERS2ERHOUR, AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MILES2ERHOUR
 
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