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A Pokemon's usage is a direct indication of its impact on the metagame. If it isn't being used, for whatever reason, it isn't having much of an impact. Being uber means that you have an overly centralizing effect on the metagame. Why they aren't centralizing is unimportant; the fact is that they aren't. If the only reason they aren't testing as uber is because of people's principles, then they still aren't uber and won't be uber until people's principles change.
Deoxys-S usage will rise up since the metagame is getting more and more offensive.
Wobbuffet is probably the reason why walls are less and less seen, because it just switches in against a Wall and then it makes one of you Pokémon set-up.
I think using usage doesn't define what is uber and what isn't, because Blissey is awesome, and people are using it less and less!
Wobbuffet is probably the reason why walls are less and less seen, because it just switches in against a Wall and then it makes one of you Pokémon set-up.
I think using usage doesn't define what is uber and what isn't, because Blissey is awesome, and people are using it less and less!
Heh umm, that Deoxys-S statement is kinda untrue in every way.
First off, it's incredibly hard to 6-0 anyone with Deoxys-S, unless the opposing team has absolutely no defense whatsoever. I'd feel pretty damn good if I did that.
Lots and lots of people defended Deoxys-S as OU, if you looked at that poll that said "should Deoxys-S be considered as OU". Over 50% of people in that poll said it should be OU.
Most of the people getting beaten by it aren't exactly all that good, espeically since it's not exactly that hard to predict against it if you can get the gist of its moveset. That, and it's completely murdered if it gets paralyzed. It's only good lategame, and even then, many other things can sweep lategame too.
I don't have a Bronzong, Jirachi or Metagross on my team, and I've never lost more than 1 pokemon against Deoxys-S, so I'm not exactly sure what you're saying there.
I'm not exactly sure how you can go about defending Garchomp in OU, but then think that Deoxys-S uber. If Garchomp stays in OU, then Deoxys-S stays in OU, no matter what.
If only Bibarel had his traits...
Heh, well they just might be very soon, because in a Bibarel thread on the shoddy forums, some guy said that he found out the way to get Simple, Unaware and the lagging items implimented, and that Bearzly guy told him to post some patch file, so heh it's only a matter of time.
OU is becoming more offensive; only 2 out of the top 10 are walls.
However, 7 out of the top ten have relative bulk, meaning people are using more tanks
However, 7 out of the top ten have relative bulk, meaning people are using more tanks
This is what we call something that overcentralizes the metagame.
Anyway, my response to these stats is to run Hippowdon more often, apparently Ninjask, Gallade, and Zapdos are popular...
Are all of these Geangar leads sashed or scarfed?
I tried Gastradon, Recover/Earthquake/Ice Beam/Toxic. It was used against me and it was surprisingly sturdy.
If they gave him his Traits, I'd sure as hell use Charge Beam Bibarel. That thing looks like so much fun. (Charge Beam/Superpower/Surf/Ice Beam)
With regard to Simple and Unaware, the patch that person sent in was ugly, and moreover does not actually work. However, I could easily have done an ugly implementation at any time over the last several months. The reason we've been holding out is I have been planning some structural changes that would allow it to be implemented in a way that is not ugly.
However, if Bibarel is really that important I might just roll out an ugly solution...
However, if Bibarel is really that important I might just roll out an ugly solution...
Azelf, Zapdos, Suicune, Raikou, Uxie, Mesprit, Moltres, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Articuno, and Entei aren't base 600s. So it's actually 9/13, and thats counting Regigigas, and Slaking, which are screwed by their abilities.
I want to know what's more common out of Scarf, Life Orb and Focus Sash lead Gengar. I can take my personal encounters with them and tally them up, but it's not evidently reliable. I need statistics that aren't available. Argh...
Amazing Ampharos, the legendary trios have a stat total of 580, so really Deoxys-E is used more than Dragonite only (and Slaking and Regigigas, but they have uber stat totals).
And they can get Shoddy Battle to do statistics for the most commonly used hold item or moveset on a certain Pokemon. I wish they actually did it though. It would help so much.
And they can get Shoddy Battle to do statistics for the most commonly used hold item or moveset on a certain Pokemon. I wish they actually did it though. It would help so much.
Oh, haha, that was dumb of me, but the mistake actually puts Deoxys-e in even lower standing in that comparison.
Well, yeah. I actually think all base 600s should be OU, and then put into ubers if dominating, rather than have a group of people say 'This is an event Pokemon, so it must be uber.'
Compare Deoxys-L and Cresselia. I think Deoxys-L should move down too.
I said that two posts up. Also, you forgot about Shaymin. Bogolo will kill you.
I use Life Orb, but most Gengar's I see are Scarfed.
Oh, sorry. lol. Well, great minds think alike! And I wonder how high up Shaymin would be if Celebi didn't exist...
It's his movepool (or lack of one) that keeps him that low, not Celebi.
Crawdaunt went down dramatically since skiddle stopped playing shoddy... T_T
Crawdaunt (128 usages)
Corsola has the least usage out of any fully evolved poke:
Corsola (10 usages)
That's lower than mime junior and azurill. LOLz? I couldn't help but notice that barboach and luxio aren't on the list... they weren't even used once?
Crawdaunt (128 usages)
Corsola has the least usage out of any fully evolved poke:
Corsola (10 usages)
That's lower than mime junior and azurill. LOLz? I couldn't help but notice that barboach and luxio aren't on the list... they weren't even used once?
This may be a question that's a bit out of place, but, given that the Wobbuffet and Deoxys-S tests are giving us these results, if a change were to be made to their tier status (as it seems may happen), is there any estimation as to when the change would be reflected on the main site? I have a friend who sticks to what's on the main site as his official tiers, and I'd like to use a Deoxys-S against him on Wi-fi.
someone once posted something that showed they acually share just about everything save for a few things celebii has and Shaymin doesn't
Cerebi does have a more diverse movepool including a steady recovery move which really lends alot to it
however Shaymin of course has Grasswhisle (granted its poor in acc but hey sleep is a big status and its sturdy enough most of the time to afford the miss) seed flare and a lack of a 4x weak to bug and a weakness to pursuit
other than theses diffrences the pokemon could play a simular role both can heal your team of status use sub seed i forget if anything else...Celebi only beats out shaymin because it can be alot more diverse due to its vastly better movepool
Nice, Zapdos and Gallade moved up the list. lol Deoxys-E in OU