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also can I just say: Immense quality jump between beta and official pixel art for the gen 3 era. most of gen 4 betas are just concept scribbles/blocking but a lot of gen 3 betas seem to be genuine attempts which shows how rough the jump from 4 to 16 (?) colors was. and while gen 3 spritework still feels somewhat transitional (its the only gen where shading is very soft and pillow shaded even, inconsistency in colored lineart etc) they really did such a good job with it
It got really lost with the super scratchy doodles but the scrapped gen 4 gender differences had a similar styling it felt.

The Gen 3 ones do feel like it might have been the style they were actively trying for though.
 
Logic follows that X/Y sequels/DLC must have been abandoned by the time of release, because Generation 6 as it stands makes every single non-Mythical Pokemon catchable. You would think that as with all other generations, they would want to make some Pokemon exclusive to each game so that competitive players and Pokedex completionists have to get all the games.

This might be the reason for X/Y's massive, oversaturated dex - the species originally earmarked for putting into the encounter pools in the sequels had to be squeezed into the first games because 'must make everything available this gen'.

They... did do that though, unless I'm misunderstanding you? Pretty much every generation since III has made every Pokemon available in some form, but you still need to get all the games to do so. XY leaves some species out but then ORAS has all of them, just as was done with RSE/FRLG and DPP/HGSS:
  • Gen III had every single non-mythical species available natively across its five main titles: Ho-oh and Lugia were available normally in the GameCube titles, but count as mythicals in Gen III
  • the same is true of Gen IV; in fact, DP alone have almost every Pokemon available in them except the previous gen's starters and legendaries, as well as, infamously, Tangela and Tropius. HGSS has all of the other gen starters and legendaries available except for the Regi trio which are obtainable in Platinum, though only via an event
  • Gen V doesn't contain every Pokemon but I think the assumption here was that Gen IV would be used to plug the gaps, as they're on the same format
  • Gen VI, as mentioned, has every non-mythical species available between XY and ORAS
  • Similarly to Gen V, Gen VII has a fair amount of Pokemon unobtainable in it (likely related to the abandonment of the National Dex) but all of the missing species can be transferred over from Gen VI
 
now that I think of it were there any mega evos whose stat spreads were changed between development and release
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Not quite sure if these are real but here ya go. Funniest thing here is how they hadn't yet realized how busted Gale Wings was, Megazard Y used to have it and Talonflame had 103 Attack!
 
Love the 2 point swap for Mega Venusaur's attack stats

Clawitzer's interesting. That's -29 compared to final right? So it'd have a mere 91 special attack and 471 BST. The Clawitzer/Dragalge pairing has always been lopsided, but man that would have been even more so. Must have realized that if you have a gun that big you deserve to have a special attack stat to go with it.
 
if true, zygarde originally having a 680 BST instead of 600 is super funny, maybe it explains why it felt so... incomplete and didn't really get anything until gen 7 - perhaps the shift to it having only 600 BST came later in development?

also lol at mega garchomp getting 20 points stolen from its speed stat. it would've been so awesome, it would've been so cool... never forget what they took from us
 
if true, zygarde originally having a 680 BST instead of 600 is super funny, maybe it explains why it felt so... incomplete and didn't really get anything until gen 7 - perhaps the shift to it having only 600 BST came later in development?

also lol at mega garchomp getting 20 points stolen from its speed stat. it would've been so awesome, it would've been so cool... never forget what they took from us
If you look at the supposed statline it's 180/100/100/100/100/100, which screams placeholder stat block to me

Anyways forget the XY stuff we got a storyboard for the SM end cutscene
This got me a lil emotional ngl
 
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Not quite sure if these are real but here ya go. Funniest thing here is how they hadn't yet realized how busted Gale Wings was, Megazard Y used to have it and Talonflame had 103 Attack!
Years ago, I had suspected Talonflame was originally designed with Attack around 105 based on the order that species appear in the Battle Maison data pool, but my hypothesis back then was that they changed it after they decided what Gale Wings should do.
 
Love the 2 point swap for Mega Venusaur's attack stats

Clawitzer's interesting. That's -29 compared to final right? So it'd have a mere 91 special attack and 471 BST. The Clawitzer/Dragalge pairing has always been lopsided, but man that would have been even more so. Must have realized that if you have a gun that big you deserve to have a special attack stat to go with it.

Mega Launcher being on Water types yet only boosting Water Pulse is easily the biggest crime I have ever seen. It could have easily, and sort of thematically, boosted Hydro Pump but NOOOOO we gotta boost a 60 BP crap move and a handful of weak non-STABs instead. Not like this would have broken Clawitzer especially if its sort of counterpart has Adaptability Draco Meteor.

I could kind of understand playing it safe with Mega Blastoise / Mega Pokémon in general. Or I would if Charizard X / Y didn't exist.

Mega Blastoise got robbed and no 11 years later I'm still not over it.
 
I'm actually quite taken with the idea. Not saying it's something that should be consistent with every Pokemon, but the idea that some legendaries have subordinates/junior versions of themselves? Super cool (yes that's already been done to an extent with a lot of legendaries: Ho-oh and the beasts, Lugia and the birds, Regigigas and its underlings, Arceus and the creation trio, Manaphy and Phione, but the idea of a direct legendary-non legendary connection is legit fascinating).
as a more direct, not shoehorned in idea, i actually 100% agree - i feel manaphy/phione and diancie/carbink are like two pieces of what would be a very fascinating dynamic both in lore and in gameplay

but trying to attach legendary meaning to mons that don't need it to stand out such as gyarados isn't a very good idea, and even worse than for less animalistic mons such as metagross
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Not quite sure if these are real but here ya go. Funniest thing here is how they hadn't yet realized how busted Gale Wings was, Megazard Y used to have it and Talonflame had 103 Attack!
a mega with even current gale wings would probably be busted already, i can't even imagine zard y with gen 6 version of it :row:

mega lati@s having 130 speed would also make them ubers i feel? what they needed to actually stand out was a diff ability though (mega garchomp too - sand force is worse than rough skin lol)
 
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Not quite sure if these are real but here ya go. Funniest thing here is how they hadn't yet realized how busted Gale Wings was, Megazard Y used to have it and Talonflame had 103 Attack!
Some of these early Megas are CRACKED, like holy. Mega Gyarados with Strong Jaw STAB Crunch and even more Attack sounds like a nightmare to deal with, Gale Wings Zard Y is pretty nuts even with only having Air Slash for Gens 6-7, a faster Mega Garchomp is insane, and not to forget MOXIE Mega Blaziken. Faster Mega Latis are pretty cute, kinda wish Latios got that in the final release since it would fit its more offensive build. Really interesting stuff, Mega Houndoom originally being SUPER shafted is also very funny although having more Attack could at least make mixed sets with Sucker Punch more viable (in like, RU-NU lmao).
 
i want to see the entire XY design bible leaked if only because i think it would 1) be funny and 2) provide some insight in the behind-the-scenes knowhow (more than what we already know, anyways) for XY
 
I am thinking so hard about meta metagross

Its like some sort of robot scorpion? with toes? why does it have toes???

it looks so sick though. both as in it looks cool but also I think it should be quarantined immediatley.
This is such a wild deviation from megas in general. Do we have other concepts in this vein? I can definitely see why they opted towards not doing massive design changes like this, but "literal spider metagross" (well, judging by the tail, a spider/scorpion mix) is an interesting enough concept they should revisit it at some point.
 
This is such a wild deviation from megas in general. Do we have other concepts in this vein? I can definitely see why they opted towards not doing massive design changes like this, but "literal spider metagross" (well, judging by the tail, a spider/scorpion mix) is an interesting enough concept they should revisit it at some point.
That thing isn't a Mega, it was Gen 3 concept art. That's a beta version of regular Metagross, not Mega Metagross.
 
I'm lowkey glad Mega Blaziken doesn't have Moxie. It would've been the prototype Quaquaval and everyone knows how much I hate that mon already. That said, I doubt Moxie would've been better than Speed Boost in a vaccum if you consider a lot of the roles Mega Blaziken was used for like Baton Pass or revenge killing a threat.

Mega Garchomp and Latios having higher speed stats makes sense, but eh. I'll admit Mega Latios is a bit lame as is, but mega Garchomp on its own is arguably better than some Legendaries like Kyurem-Black. I think its fine that they nerfed its speed, and think its cool they tried something different with it, though I do wish I could use it with Scale Shot. Not really as charitable with Meta Latios. It already had mixed attacking potential with Psyshock and I feel it needs the higher speed to actually stand out against both its based form and one of the Latias forms, where its unomptimized statline kinda sticks out.
 
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