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AZ being the original villain instead of Lysandre makes a lot of sense. I wondered a lot at the time why AZ was in XY at all, since it's already overloaded on characters and nothing he does is relevant outside of giving us a bit of context we also get elsewhere. Them just refusing to cut him completely after a rework fits. Sounds like his story might have been pretty fun, too.
Sky battles(plus Soaring) being the only way to catch the Legendary Birds would have been epic. I can guess why they cut both elements of that (Soaring for time reasons, Sky Battle because they hate limiting your mon access), but could you imagine? The games have been out a week, you just beat it, then you discover the Legendary Bird exists in the game, but you have to train up a whole dedicated team of anti-flying Birds to catch it. That would make the encounters feel like something special you're preparing for.
This type chart is...questionable. I get what they're going for, but also no. I'm glad we got the final version(though Ice resisting Fairy would be nice, if nonsensical).
Sky battles(plus Soaring) being the only way to catch the Legendary Birds would have been epic. I can guess why they cut both elements of that (Soaring for time reasons, Sky Battle because they hate limiting your mon access), but could you imagine? The games have been out a week, you just beat it, then you discover the Legendary Bird exists in the game, but you have to train up a whole dedicated team of anti-flying Birds to catch it. That would make the encounters feel like something special you're preparing for.
This type chart is...questionable. I get what they're going for, but also no. I'm glad we got the final version(though Ice resisting Fairy would be nice, if nonsensical).
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These images were likely pretty early on (I mean, duh, it's probably pre-production concept art) evidenced by the use of 3D models that don't fit the shaders/texturing of PLA's final models
Honestly I disagree with the popular sentiment that I've seen. I literally cannot imagine AZ as the main villain.
Because a lot of the point of his character is he's spent all this time that he's mellowed out over the years. The idea that hundreds of years later, he's still plotting to basically commit a genocide for some reason? Like I guess using "realism" he'd be mentally out of his mind, but on a character level? I think it'd make him
1. Entirely unsympathetic
2. Less interesting as a *figure*
3. It'd make his renuion with Floette be less touching and honestly make less sense
AZ IMO is one of the coolest characters in the series because he is kinda just a person who was important long ago, but is a relic- he's like a living ghost wanderer who was never allowed to rest. He lives in the shadow of his past actions, and it is the player who helps ease their regrets- he's here because he's trying to prevent this from happening again, even if it's in a minor way.
In fact, AZ is one of the most exciting parts of Legends ZA to me. I want to see more of his character, and I don't want him to be A Villain unless it really really fits it all.
Yeah, so this post got a bit long and I even began thinking it gone away from being about the leak and more something you'd see in the "Mysteries and Conspiracy" thread. However, since it is about leaked info, I'm not sure if it's allowed to be posted there. So for now I'll just leave it here in a spoiler tag.
I could keep going on with other connections and reasons for certain placements, but I'll summarize my point of this practice is that I think a lot of thought did go into what Pokemon was chosen and where they were placed. And yes, I also know that some picks (or rather some alternate picks) are explained via the lore documents, but this is just an observation of Arceus' Circle of Creation as presented here and the lore documents don't explain everything (if anything they raise further questions, though mostly in development of the lore).
Arceus' Circle of Creation:
Wanted to quickly touch on this and give some of my theories on the reasoning of the placement to other gods.
Before I begin, I do follow the belief that Groudon's "Supporting Gods" are Heatran, Cresselia, & Garchomp while the codenamed Mythicals are Manahy & Shaymin.
Starting in the center we of course have Arceus, the "God of All".
Directly connected to Arceus are the Universe Gods that split off from it: Dialga & Palkia (and a circle for Giratina is added on the finalized version of the circle). Dialga caused time to flow, Palkia caused space to expand, and Giratina rebelled causing it to be banished to the Distortion World. The universe is created.
On the second inner circle (here mostly covered up by the triangle formed by the Sinnoh Legendaries) are the World Gods which formed the Pokemon World: Rayquaza, Kyogre, and Groudon.
With the Pokemon World formed, Mesprit, Azelf, and Uxie are created to grant the world's inhabitant their gifts. And it is also here where we get our first major placement moment:
That leads us to the "Supporting Gods" who formed from the World Gods, each having three.
Before we get to the final outer circle, there's the three "Master Gods", so called because they're direct masters of their three "Servant Gods". Each one of them is connected to a Lake Guardian:
Finally, the most outer circle are for the "Mythicals". There are six Mythicals and they're split two for each side of the triangle that is formed by the World Gods:
Wanted to quickly touch on this and give some of my theories on the reasoning of the placement to other gods.
Before I begin, I do follow the belief that Groudon's "Supporting Gods" are Heatran, Cresselia, & Garchomp while the codenamed Mythicals are Manahy & Shaymin.
Starting in the center we of course have Arceus, the "God of All".
Directly connected to Arceus are the Universe Gods that split off from it: Dialga & Palkia (and a circle for Giratina is added on the finalized version of the circle). Dialga caused time to flow, Palkia caused space to expand, and Giratina rebelled causing it to be banished to the Distortion World. The universe is created.
On the second inner circle (here mostly covered up by the triangle formed by the Sinnoh Legendaries) are the World Gods which formed the Pokemon World: Rayquaza, Kyogre, and Groudon.
With the Pokemon World formed, Mesprit, Azelf, and Uxie are created to grant the world's inhabitant their gifts. And it is also here where we get our first major placement moment:
- Rayquaza (Sky) is placed between Uxie (Knowledge) and Azelf (Willpower): I think the reason here more lies with Lake Guardian Rayquaza isn't connected with, Mesprit. Rayqauza, as the de facto master of the Super Ancient Pokemon, is above the emotional rivalry that Kyogre and Groudon has with one another, it having the power and knowledge to quell them for the betterment of the world and the life on it.
- Kygore (Sea/Ocean) is placed between Uxie (Knowledge) and Mespirt (Emotion): As its one of the fighting Super Ancient Pokemon, it's connection to Mesprit represent its more emotional behavior. It's connection to Uxie is from its element, water, which in the Pokemon World (much like on Earth) harbors life and thus consciousness. And while this would also technically give it a connection to willpower, the seas and oceans (and currents and storms that are created from it) are a chaotic force that life as much bends to as much as it adapts.
- Groudon (Land) is placed between Azelf (Willpower) and Mesprit (Emotion): Like with its rival Kyogre, its emotional behavior is why its connected to Mesprit. As the god of the land, its connection to Azelf is one of pure might & mass. Sure, the surface of the Pokemon World is covered by 70% water, but even at its deepest the ocean only barely scratches the Pokemon World's crust as the mantle and further inner layers are made of rock, metal, and magma. And for life, land has provided stability and resources to build upon, though also provide reminders what's truly in charge with great acts of might such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. But while the land provides the resources, it takes life to utilize it and build something from it, hence Groudon's lack of connection with knowledge.
That leads us to the "Supporting Gods" who formed from the World Gods, each having three.
- From Rayquaza came Dragonite, Gyarados, & Tyranitar: Definitely some strange picks here, especially since it's the only one with a member who is neither a Legendary nor Pseudo Legendary (and even odder as Salamence is the only Pseudo Legendary who was excluded, though looks like they wanted Rayquaza to only have Gen I & II "Supporting Gods"). Dragonite makes the most sense here, it is a Dragon- and Flying-type like Rayquaza with plenty of legends under its belt (such as the Dragonite that flew around the globe in under a day). Gyarados at first seems like an odd pick, but if you look past the Water-type and non-Legendary (though still pretty high) stats it is a Flying-type serpent just like Rayquaza. Also, it being a Water-type links it to Kyogre, and as stated Rayquaza is the master of the Super Ancient Pokemon so makes sense to have that representation. So with that in mind, Tyranitar which made even less sense now does make some sense, it's a Rock-type theropod (dinosaurs often related to the Dragon-type in Pokemon) who symbolically represents Groudon. Rayquaza's supporters being from Kanto & Johto could one again be because Rayquaza is the master and those were the first two regions which are directly connected with one another (and while this may sound like a meta excuse, also consider a lot of in-world popular Pokemon and famous trainers are from Kanto & Johto). Infact this could be another reason why Gyarados is here, while Dragonite more represents Kanto and Tyranitar for Johto, Gyarados has a strong representation in both Regions.
- From Kyogre came Latios, Metagross, & Latias: As much as Groudon also calls Hoenn home, it's without a second guess the most water-focused region is Hoenn (until Alola, but even then...). Latios & Latias are both here as, in addition to being Hoenn's only other "additional" Legendary Pokemon, they do have a loose connection to water (their Signature item is the Soul Dew, Latios Signature Move is Mist Ball (not to mention all the Water-type Moves they both can learn), their "jet" basis can mean "jetboat" as much as "jet plane', etc.). Both of them being Dragons could also be a representation of Rayquaza. Between them is Metagross, and while its appearance and dex entries give it a robotic vibe, it's body shape is comparable to arthropods, one of the earliest forms of life that quickly evolved & widely diversified during the Cambrian explosion and even today they still populate all biomes of the seas & oceans the globe over. Metagross being a Steel-type could also be a representation of Groudon.
- From Groudon came Heatran, Cresselia, & Garchomp: While not its home turf, Sinnoh's turf has a notable landform in Mt. Coronet which makes it suitable for Groudon to represent it. Heatran's presence here is obvious, a Pokemon that is a manifestation of volcanic activities and the planet's core. Cresselia is at first odd, but it becomes more clear when you think of it representing the moon, the closest celestial body (of significant size) that orbits around the Pokemon World in a dance that has gone on for eons. Comparing it to real life counterparts, of the few celestial bodies that has parts of Earth on it it has the most, especially so when you consider the moon formed after another planet collided with Earth during the early days of the universe, Earth (obviously) surviving while the remainder of the now destroyed planet (that hasn't fused with Earth) and ejected pieces of Earth fused together to form the moon. The moon also has a connection to the seas and oceans, making it a representation of Kyogre. Garchomp is a Ground-type Pseudo Legendary, need I say more? It's also part Dragon-type which could make it a representation of Rayquaza.
Before we get to the final outer circle, there's the three "Master Gods", so called because they're direct masters of their three "Servant Gods". Each one of them is connected to a Lake Guardian:
- Uxie is connected to Ho-Oh, master of the Legendary Beasts (Suicune, Entei, & Raikou): Ho-Oh had always been presented as more "sophisticated" and "wise" when compared to Lugia who is portrayed as more savage. When Lugia's Tower burned down, Ho-Oh learned three Pokemon perished inside it and resurrected them as the Legendary Beasts. However when people showed anger and fear toward them, Ho-Oh abandoned its tower out of distrust, only appearing to humans it senses to have great potential. The Legendary Beasts serve as its heralds, doing their master's will wherever they go. It shouldn't be a surprise Suicune is the member closest to Uxie, considered the favorite of Ho-Oh and the wisest of the three beasts (hence it being the mascot of Gen II's third version). Entei leans towards Azelf's & Rayquaza's side, portrayed as the physically strongest member and the one likely to rise up to the ocassion and lead. Raikou leans toward Mesprit's & Kyogre's side, Raikou is more of a free spirit as it zips across the world with thundering rain clouds on its back.
- Mesprit is connected to Regigigas, master of the Legendary Titans (Regice, Regirock, & Registeel): It's odd to connect the God of Emotions with a group of Pokemon who are seemingly emotionless, but that's looking at things a bit too literally. Emotions can mean more than just feeling happy, sad, angry, etc., it can also mean something instinctual. Regigigas may not showcase a wide range of emotions, but what it does have is an instinct to create. It just has a natural sense of finding good materials and combining them to build working Legendary Titans (at least for the original three, when it tries to get creative and make new Titan models it seems to overreach at points). And these instincts are then also programmed into the Legendary Titans who'll follow their programming no matter what. Take Regice, the member closest to Mesprit. It's made of the physically weakest material of the three, ice, but its sheer determination keeps it from even melting in lava (maybe that's why it's seemingly Regigigas' favorite for those who played ORAS). Regirock leans toward Uxie's and Kyogre's side, it's the one that suffers the most damage due to erosion but knows how to find the proper rocks to repair itself and keep going. Registeel leans toward Azelf's and Groudon's side, with a hard steel body made from material said not found on the Pokemon World it can tank hits from either physical or special moves and push forward.
- Azelf is connected to Lugia, master of the Legendary Birds (Zapdos, Articuno, & Moltres): As I mentioned above, when compared with Ho-Oh, Lugia has been presented as the more savage of the two. By feats Lugia seems to be the physically stronger Pokemon, diving down into deep-sea trenches to sleep because an accidental flap of its wings can create a month long storm that can blow away a town. Though I suppose when you're are master of the Legendary Birds you need to have a strong disposition. Granted, while this was only in the 2nd movie (and something else had already stirred them into a rage), the Legendary Birds have just as much willpower as their master. Zapdos is the closest to Azelf just because out of the three it has the most advantages and the attitude to match. Articuno leans toward Mesprit's and Groudon's side, it goes out of its way to help people who are lost in the icy mountains that it makes its nest in (the dex is a bit obscure about this, though both the anime and manga had shown it helping). Moltres leans toward Uxie's and Rayquaza's side, it's very image having served as a symbol of inspiration and courageousness.
Finally, the most outer circle are for the "Mythicals". There are six Mythicals and they're split two for each side of the triangle that is formed by the World Gods:
- Mew & Celebi on Kyogre's side: Makes sense that Mew, the ancestor of all Pokemon, would be on the side of the element where life began. Celebi is honestly more here because they're once again pairing the Pokemon by gens. Not that time doesn't have a place on this side, if we assume the Pokemon World had similar history to Earth than as soon as water become abundant a lot of its time was spent covered in water (or ice). It also took life a long time before it was able to evolve organisms that could live on land. And while landmasses have rose up from the mantle to then get swallowed back into it, the water we have now is the same water the planet has had since water appeared (well, maybe not exactly the same, but the basic molecular structure).
- Jirachi & Deoxys on Groudon's side: Just as we did for Cresselia, we're going to have to get a bit nebulous here. Obviously the Pokemon which have connection to space and celestial objects aren't going to have a direct connection to terra ferma. Jirachi is based on making a wish on a shooting star, a shooting star being an icy comet. Deoxys is a space virus found on a rocky meteorite. But what they have similar to the Pokemon World is that they're physical solid objects made from minerals, be it a giant rock orbiting a star, a comparably smaller rock floating through space, or a clump of ice speeding by spewing its material behind it.
- Manaphy & Shaymin on Rayquaza's side: Manaphy and Shaymin both represent ecosystems. Manaphy represents marine ecosystems while Shaymin represents ecosystems with a lot of plantlife. A major aspect of these ecosystems is that they have cycles they, their resources, and the life that lives in them go through to keep thriving. And, in one way or another, these cycles at some point involve the atmosphere, usually having sent something up into the sky (via evaporation or aerial dispersal, etc.) to be filtered or taken somewhere else and then come back down to go through the process in the ecosystem before beginning again.
I could keep going on with other connections and reasons for certain placements, but I'll summarize my point of this practice is that I think a lot of thought did go into what Pokemon was chosen and where they were placed. And yes, I also know that some picks (or rather some alternate picks) are explained via the lore documents, but this is just an observation of Arceus' Circle of Creation as presented here and the lore documents don't explain everything (if anything they raise further questions, though mostly in development of the lore).
One way we could've solved this "I think AZ should've been the main villain" thing was to make Lysandre a more compelling villain and not a half-baked one (both in terms of execution and team style) - were there any sort of scrapped ideas for his arc in the games, or are we past that point with nothing to be found
iirc from what’s already been leaked Salamence wasn’t even originally meant to be a pseudo, it was kind of shoehorned in
Do we have it then? Or are we going to need to wait for another leak to see it?
They were going to nerf Steel and make it weak to Electric? Why would they have even considered that?
In previous revisions, many Pokemon in gen 5 use stats and abilities copypasted from other Pokemon that... vaguely visually / typewise resemble them (chicken and egg scenario):
https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Black_and_White/Pokémon_Data/Base_Stats
The older the Pokemon the more likely it wasn't a copypaste base, potentially (e.g. Axew is totally unique) but the pattern isn't perfect. Either way, some of them give a sense of what they were kind of thinking about when making the Pokemon. It might have also gone backwards into the design of the final Pokemon - perhaps for Pokemon that were concept first (e.g. "Dark-type") instead of design first (Haxorus), a tangentially related Pokemon was used as the base and the tangentially related Pokemon influenced the final design of the new Pokemon.
For example, Houndour is the base for both Vullaby and Pawniard. In hindsight, you can kind of see this leak into the design of both of them - one wears bone clothing and the other has those blade rib things that resemble Houndour's back ribs.
Mime Jr. is seemingly the base for Yamask (no clue).
Ducklett is a copypaste of Wingull, which is funny in hindsight that they thought "oh god we gotta have a Water/Flying bird".
Bizarrely, the Pokemon based on Magnemite is Tynamo. Klink has a unique base.
Totally unrelated is that Cottonee / Whimsicott had Solar Power as an ability earlier on. I don't know what they were cooking at this time, but it would explain why Cottonee evolves seemingly somewhat randomly via Sun Stone. Cottonee / Whimsicott are arguably the least sun-themed of all of the Sun Stone evolutions, especially given that Cottonee gets, you know, less green when it evolves.
Thick Fat Rufflet is either a sign that Rufflet was a turkey at some point (option a) or gamefreak is hilarious (option b).
https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Black_and_White/Pokémon_Data/Base_Stats
The older the Pokemon the more likely it wasn't a copypaste base, potentially (e.g. Axew is totally unique) but the pattern isn't perfect. Either way, some of them give a sense of what they were kind of thinking about when making the Pokemon. It might have also gone backwards into the design of the final Pokemon - perhaps for Pokemon that were concept first (e.g. "Dark-type") instead of design first (Haxorus), a tangentially related Pokemon was used as the base and the tangentially related Pokemon influenced the final design of the new Pokemon.
For example, Houndour is the base for both Vullaby and Pawniard. In hindsight, you can kind of see this leak into the design of both of them - one wears bone clothing and the other has those blade rib things that resemble Houndour's back ribs.
Mime Jr. is seemingly the base for Yamask (no clue).
Ducklett is a copypaste of Wingull, which is funny in hindsight that they thought "oh god we gotta have a Water/Flying bird".
Bizarrely, the Pokemon based on Magnemite is Tynamo. Klink has a unique base.
Totally unrelated is that Cottonee / Whimsicott had Solar Power as an ability earlier on. I don't know what they were cooking at this time, but it would explain why Cottonee evolves seemingly somewhat randomly via Sun Stone. Cottonee / Whimsicott are arguably the least sun-themed of all of the Sun Stone evolutions, especially given that Cottonee gets, you know, less green when it evolves.
Thick Fat Rufflet is either a sign that Rufflet was a turkey at some point (option a) or gamefreak is hilarious (option b).
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Maybe the weird turkey dragon was an early Braviary?
Quickly adding onto this:
The fact this presentation has no mention of BDSP really seems to suggest that the original intent was for LA to be the only new Sinnoh game and BDSP's existence was a result of outside interference we can only speculate on the nature of. Legends Z-A being standalone isn't really a change in approach, it's what they wanted all along.
I wonder when it's gonna sink in with the broader fanbase that Game Freak is completely done with remakes. At the very least we can forget about getting a game like HGSS or ORAS for the foreseeable future.
I Think the reason BDSP exist is likely out of TPC fearing a backlash over lack of a "proper" sinnoh remake judging with their meeting over Ash's departure. Regardless, BDSP kill the idea for a Unova remake for a good chunk of the fandom & not to mention how are they gonna handle remaking BW1&2.
ILCA really got the brunt of it huh... 1.5 years to quickly develop one of if not the biggest regions to remake. If they wanted a remake to gauge fans response to either LA or BDSP, they should've given ILCA the green light to develop asap. Who knows what they could've done if they had 2.5 or 3 years to develop.
EDIT: I also think it's interesting that this maybe Masuda's final game. I wonder if they needed a director for BDSP and everyone else was working on other titles and Masuda was kinda the only one (just speculating). Didn't he say LGPE was his final game?
EDIT: I also think it's interesting that this maybe Masuda's final game. I wonder if they needed a director for BDSP and everyone else was working on other titles and Masuda was kinda the only one (just speculating). Didn't he say LGPE was his final game?
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Took a glance at the leaks and my god why in the celestia 
(Genshin reference btw) did the devs cook with that slakoth story!?
But let's be fr the story will obviously not come into fruition but still the fact that it involves animal ab*se, de*d bodies, potential r*pe (based later on the story), and even m*rder is crazy, and people used to dimiss/argue those dark pokemon theories because "it's too dark for a kids game" before smh (Sorry if I sounded rude, just was shocked at the story being that dark, also the lake reminds me of that one obscure thing in the Gen 5 pokemon anime when N was injured).
(Genshin reference btw) did the devs cook with that slakoth story!?But let's be fr the story will obviously not come into fruition but still the fact that it involves animal ab*se, de*d bodies, potential r*pe (based later on the story), and even m*rder is crazy, and people used to dimiss/argue those dark pokemon theories because "it's too dark for a kids game" before smh (Sorry if I sounded rude, just was shocked at the story being that dark, also the lake reminds me of that one obscure thing in the Gen 5 pokemon anime when N was injured).
Is Mega Jynx really gonna be the Luigi of this leak lol
Coincidentally, Electric being SE against Steel was a thing in the GS beta...
I'm fine with having no more remakes, but I don't know if that's Game Freak's statement too. After all, these documents are old archives, who knows if they've changed their minds ever since.
I guess that feature got replaced by finding satchels, but I kinda wish it had stayed. It’s a fun little tie-in to DP, and it would have been nice for Ursaluna to have that extra bit of utility.
I wonder if BDSP changed their calculus regarding remakes again though. While I think the success of Arceus probably emboldened them to keep making Legends/experimental games, BDSP still performed well enough to — at least from a cynical, market-minded perspective — warrant cranking out traditional remakes, which GF don’t even have to make themselves anymore. Personally I don’t really care either way; I’ll play the remakes if they’re there, but I won’t miss them if they’re gone. I’d just be surprised that the suits wouldn’t be enthusiastic about easy money.
Lysandre is one of the best-written villains in the series imo so I think it worked out for the best :)
Well the main things
It comes down to money lol, but also:
They planned a "Year of Sinnoh" but this was mostly only pushed in Japan, less so in America. One of the major goals of this Year of Sinnoh was to promote Piplup to Third Mascot status. This is why there are several Piplup focused animated videos from that year.
It ultimately didn't work, but I'm saying it now so that in 3 years when DYKG makes a video like "The Real Biggest Failure of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl" about the piplup thing you'll know now!
In Japan they have weird practices to basically keep longstanding veteran members on payroll to let them kinda do whatever the fuck they want in the company, on the premise that they might help with that kind of thing
what a "Creative Fellow" is, is basically "this person is on payroll just in case we need their advice", and while they may pick up other roles at the company (Miyamoto is an avid Producer on games even past when he took this role) they're usually not forced to do anything
I imagine that Masuda being the "director" of BDSP, considering how unoriginal the game is, was basically "Hey masuda we wanna know what you think about this" a few times in development. I don't think this was a taxxing time for Masuda lol
to post a third time in a row
I WAS FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!!!
I've said for YEARS that PLA was partially made with the intent of appealing to Westerners, because Westerners fucking hate JRPGs on average. I've said it for years. And what everyone is overlooking in the "PLA was made for hardcore gamers" presentation, is it specifies "overseas"
I WAS FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!!!
I've said for YEARS that PLA was partially made with the intent of appealing to Westerners, because Westerners fucking hate JRPGs on average. I've said it for years. And what everyone is overlooking in the "PLA was made for hardcore gamers" presentation, is it specifies "overseas"
"with this new type, we aim to balance some types that might be too strong such as dragon, fighting, dark... and most of all, BUG. bugs have had it way too easy for way too long."
also justice for ILCA they had basically everything going against them in BDSP
Nothing about the BDSP stuff surprises me. Between Covid, PLA being an unprecdented style, and ILCA not working on a game on that scale before, it was clear it was something to sate fans while they worked on their big thing. Seeing how PLZA is next year and no game in sight for this one, they seemed to have learned their lesson (despite bdsp having huge sales) that fans are willing to wait for polish
Or maybe not. We haven't seen anything yet so well have to wait and see.
Or maybe not. We haven't seen anything yet so well have to wait and see.
With all the stuff we've seen so far on Gen 6 and how many of the features they planned for XY were moved to later games; form your own gyms, flying to catch pokemon, raids (or maybe not, gotta love Centro...); I wonder what we would get with Gen 8 and possibly 9 in these leaks. It's just obvious there were shenanigans going on behind the scenes from things such as Dexit and SVs bugginess. There's a definite chance we might not get much, but if we even get one thing showing more behind the scenes info, it would be real enlightening.
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My gut feeling is actually the opposite: XY might genuinely be the end of the road for any really interesting cut content other than the occasional beytahmon concept art drop. We've already gotten SM and SWSH leaks before and while they had a few items of note (Alolan Snorlax!) they were overall a far cry from previous games' old builds. SV might have some juice but I honestly doubt it, they're not unfinished in the same way XY and DP are unfinished: They seemingly did everything they wanted to in terms of Pokemon, mechanics, worldbuilding etc they just didn't polish any of it lol
Look at the Legends Arceus stuff we just got, other than the buried items feature it really seems like they did everything they set out to do. Even that doesn't remotely compare to Southern Kalos or any of the wackiness of Beta GS
SV stuff could potentially be a little interesting.
There's the whole Land Magikarp/Gyarados thing, but I've always found myself looking at the material section of the item IDs and how whiel it mostly lines up with the internal ids of the new pokemon so most gaps are for things like the paradoxes there's a couple in a portion that's where all the "regular" Pokemon are. Like XY I'd expect no models, but perhaps a wayward internal update sheet, a left behind reference or something to that effect; concept art would be nice too, of course but I think we were just generally lucky that XY had anything to share on that front since most of the other gens lacked that in the leak.
There's the whole Land Magikarp/Gyarados thing, but I've always found myself looking at the material section of the item IDs and how whiel it mostly lines up with the internal ids of the new pokemon so most gaps are for things like the paradoxes there's a couple in a portion that's where all the "regular" Pokemon are. Like XY I'd expect no models, but perhaps a wayward internal update sheet, a left behind reference or something to that effect; concept art would be nice too, of course but I think we were just generally lucky that XY had anything to share on that front since most of the other gens lacked that in the leak.
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