I think it's jalmont/a fairy/lechen
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- Thread starter Celever
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unless we have a deepwolf.
Like scum bluedoom sees that all his teammates are on the POE, sees that he and NE are the only ones who hasn't claimed if they used it and doesn't claim gun holder? What does he lose at that point, I'd risk it.
Like scum bluedoom sees that all his teammates are on the POE, sees that he and NE are the only ones who hasn't claimed if they used it and doesn't claim gun holder? What does he lose at that point, I'd risk it.
I think a fairy is likely the vanilliser but unless mafia messed up their vanilliser usage it probably doesn't matter the order.
Playerlist:
1. a fairy
i am town
2. Nuxl
i currently dont have any reason to disbelieve the careful town claim, and it matches up with my pre-suppositions that eli was town. if there's a deepwolf, i really don't think it's here, and i don't think the actual careful town would be not CCing. it's not a garauntee, maybe the careful wolf is throwing by thinking they're more at risk letting a maf claim careful town than CCing, but i dont think that's what is happening here
4. JALMONT
hear me out. jal's been under suspicion by plenty of folks over the course of this entire game, but has never been particularly close to going over. i know there was some amt of T/S perspectives with chickening in a pair, and while i don't recall off hand why that perspective was so strong, chickening flipping here makes me have this seed of doubt that jalmont's worth considering strongly here. i dunno. it's hard for me to go like, ah yeah jalmont's more likely to be town because of <reason> other than this nebulous t/s with chickening that im not sure is super real.
5. Alice Kazumi
so alice was mostly seen as town fmpov due to a hal soulread, but im growing less confident in this one personally. hard to pinpoint any specific incident or group of incidents that alice was particularily towny in, she's kinda just always been present as a sounding board to whoever was trying to make thoughts. but i don't actually know what she's done to make her strongly towny other than following the same lines of logic that hal has.
7. apricity
"oh boy here af goes expanding the POE again" yeah well we're at the point where soul reads and gut instincts don't cut it. hal has a strong claim to credit for the realiti vote - not the strongest, but strong. it's hard to see this slot being scum in reality, but i don't want to call this locktown. if there's anyone who would sub into a game, see in scumchat from someone dooming about the NE dossier and went "cool, i'm going to bus you for towncred and then powerwolf" it'd be hal.
8. Ehmcee
im not buying the 1/15 yet. it's not super convincing that it's a locktown mech confirm, but shooting tommy makes sense to me from town ehmcee pov, even if it wasn't an accurate shot. i'm not looking here right now for scum, and i suspect that by the time i'd be ready to look here, the game would be over.
11. bluedoom
folks? i can't remeber a single notable thing bd has done this game. why? why is this slot just kinda barely present and non-impactful on my memory? their vote history is fine, they go against the current by being on dbd on the realiti day (when you'd expect scum to bus) and then is on chickening the dbd day (which you could maybe see scum knowing chickening was dying by gun tonight for cred ig?), but like when it comes to actual contributions to the gamestate, bluedoom is a blind spot for me. and frankly, at a quick iso glance, i'm not sure i'm the one at fault here for that.
13. des121
we can all agree that des' behavior has changed, right? like it's night and day now compared to the early days where she was questioning everything and poking at people and asking for clarifications. now all she does is come in, like posts, make a post going "if any1 has questions ping me" and does little else. why??? didnt we literally have a conversation with her about how changing behavior is seen as scummy and she was like, oh yeah sounds good won't do that. and then she did it? ik we all got town vibes from her early on but shit's hard to keep giving a pass to her for.
16. Lechen
i still think lechen is in the poe, but their behavior this cycle doesn't read to me as confident maf willing to not make it to the end knowing that their allies likely will. they read genuinely as someone who wasn't active early on, picked up in activity, and is being frustrated that they're being compared to the hal/eli slots when it comes to expected activity and not the des/bd/ne slots who have kinda just been mia for most of lechen's active gametime. i know that it's a vibe thing and that it might bite me but lechen was always kinda "in the poe bc of the way poe works" and less "in the poe bc gd that's scummy behavior", and im not sure how many of the reasons still apply.
18. NightEmerald
if anyone has a locktown keycard without having actually mechanically done a locktown thing, it's NE. i honestly believe more that ehmcee's the 1/15 than i believe that NE decided to bus the fuck out of realiti at the moment he did. like i said with ehmcee, by the time i'd be entertaining other options, the game's likely over anyway.
town
a fairy
nuxl
nightemerald
ehmcee
<dividing line of notability>
apricity
alice kazumi
des121 / lechen / <dividing line of notability>
jalmont
bluedoom
im unsure on the current des/lechen/dividing line thing. my gut instinct is that the ordering is lechen -> dividing line -> des? but i could probably convince myself of literally any ordering of those 3 with infinite time, but i think if i had to lock in one in a reasonable amount of time, it'd be lechen -> dividing line > des.
1. a fairy
i am town
2. Nuxl
i currently dont have any reason to disbelieve the careful town claim, and it matches up with my pre-suppositions that eli was town. if there's a deepwolf, i really don't think it's here, and i don't think the actual careful town would be not CCing. it's not a garauntee, maybe the careful wolf is throwing by thinking they're more at risk letting a maf claim careful town than CCing, but i dont think that's what is happening here
4. JALMONT
hear me out. jal's been under suspicion by plenty of folks over the course of this entire game, but has never been particularly close to going over. i know there was some amt of T/S perspectives with chickening in a pair, and while i don't recall off hand why that perspective was so strong, chickening flipping here makes me have this seed of doubt that jalmont's worth considering strongly here. i dunno. it's hard for me to go like, ah yeah jalmont's more likely to be town because of <reason> other than this nebulous t/s with chickening that im not sure is super real.
5. Alice Kazumi
so alice was mostly seen as town fmpov due to a hal soulread, but im growing less confident in this one personally. hard to pinpoint any specific incident or group of incidents that alice was particularily towny in, she's kinda just always been present as a sounding board to whoever was trying to make thoughts. but i don't actually know what she's done to make her strongly towny other than following the same lines of logic that hal has.
7. apricity
"oh boy here af goes expanding the POE again" yeah well we're at the point where soul reads and gut instincts don't cut it. hal has a strong claim to credit for the realiti vote - not the strongest, but strong. it's hard to see this slot being scum in reality, but i don't want to call this locktown. if there's anyone who would sub into a game, see in scumchat from someone dooming about the NE dossier and went "cool, i'm going to bus you for towncred and then powerwolf" it'd be hal.
8. Ehmcee
im not buying the 1/15 yet. it's not super convincing that it's a locktown mech confirm, but shooting tommy makes sense to me from town ehmcee pov, even if it wasn't an accurate shot. i'm not looking here right now for scum, and i suspect that by the time i'd be ready to look here, the game would be over.
11. bluedoom
folks? i can't remeber a single notable thing bd has done this game. why? why is this slot just kinda barely present and non-impactful on my memory? their vote history is fine, they go against the current by being on dbd on the realiti day (when you'd expect scum to bus) and then is on chickening the dbd day (which you could maybe see scum knowing chickening was dying by gun tonight for cred ig?), but like when it comes to actual contributions to the gamestate, bluedoom is a blind spot for me. and frankly, at a quick iso glance, i'm not sure i'm the one at fault here for that.
13. des121
we can all agree that des' behavior has changed, right? like it's night and day now compared to the early days where she was questioning everything and poking at people and asking for clarifications. now all she does is come in, like posts, make a post going "if any1 has questions ping me" and does little else. why??? didnt we literally have a conversation with her about how changing behavior is seen as scummy and she was like, oh yeah sounds good won't do that. and then she did it? ik we all got town vibes from her early on but shit's hard to keep giving a pass to her for.
16. Lechen
i still think lechen is in the poe, but their behavior this cycle doesn't read to me as confident maf willing to not make it to the end knowing that their allies likely will. they read genuinely as someone who wasn't active early on, picked up in activity, and is being frustrated that they're being compared to the hal/eli slots when it comes to expected activity and not the des/bd/ne slots who have kinda just been mia for most of lechen's active gametime. i know that it's a vibe thing and that it might bite me but lechen was always kinda "in the poe bc of the way poe works" and less "in the poe bc gd that's scummy behavior", and im not sure how many of the reasons still apply.
18. NightEmerald
if anyone has a locktown keycard without having actually mechanically done a locktown thing, it's NE. i honestly believe more that ehmcee's the 1/15 than i believe that NE decided to bus the fuck out of realiti at the moment he did. like i said with ehmcee, by the time i'd be entertaining other options, the game's likely over anyway.
town
a fairy
nuxl
nightemerald
ehmcee
<dividing line of notability>
apricity
alice kazumi
des121 / lechen / <dividing line of notability>
jalmont
bluedoom
im unsure on the current des/lechen/dividing line thing. my gut instinct is that the ordering is lechen -> dividing line -> des? but i could probably convince myself of literally any ordering of those 3 with infinite time, but i think if i had to lock in one in a reasonable amount of time, it'd be lechen -> dividing line > des.
whats this?
I think she is town because of early game and all scummy slots scumreading her suddenly.
oh. i didnt read it as something worth further investigation, it doesnt surprise me that lechen remembers being thrown out as town in a similar situation not that long ago. lord knows i've had to fend off lover's dance nonsense at least twice this game now and that game was over a year ago
I'm not commiting yet
des?
Probably below Alice
not really. I don’t have a lot of influence in the vote today. I am trying to avoid purely defending myself because I don’t think long run that’s useful to town regardless of who is voted out today.
When did I do that? That day I was flying from 12:30-5 with a brief layover so I didnt really have time to post
Why do you rate whoever was the vig last night over Ehmcee?
I'd say above bluedoom
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