Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4

DaddyBuzzwole said:
i haven't exactly been having fun with specs kyurem 1.0 but this wouldn't exactly be competition. it's more "slow fat specs dragapult", the damage output isn't exactly crazy
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The issue is that Specs Dragapult is already hard to switch into and “fat” is dramatically underselling its ridiculous 150/120/120 bulk. It’ll be the king of 2-for-1 trades, and SV doesn’t need any more strong breakers.
EpicGuy321 said:
Calling Ghost/Dragon a bad defensive typing is insane
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I’m paraphrasing arguments for its legality. If anything, arguing it has strong defensive utility only proves my point more.
 
Seraphyde said:
Anything that’s weak to Knock Off is a bad defensive typing
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Also Deoxys Speed, Iron Crown, Pecharunt and Sinistcha, but I didn't want to crowd the image.
 
Just donated 3k to the Palafin cause

We're currently in a fairly Hyper Offensive metagame, I believe Palafin can offer some diversity as a threat that doesn't fit very well on these teams (momentum sink) while acting as a strong revenge killer in the format. The main set it was banned for is honestly pretty ass in the current metagame, Bulk Up + Taunt + Drain Punch + Jet Punch quite simply just does not cut it in this format. Very interested in seeing what it could add to the metagame as a new Gliscor answer, as well as potentially propping up rain a bit.

Highly recommend watching the new Pokeaim vid for those currently thinking of different suspect options.

My current Unban/Ban preferences go for: Palafin>Tera Blast>Kyurem AGAIN
 
Finchinator said:
Not really a formal list, but I would say stuff like Tera Blast in the metagame, retests like Palafin or Solgaleo dropping down, or Pokemon being tested like Kingambit. We aren’t going to veto something unless it would just be a giant waste of time, but there are only so many things that would be productive
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ianlazerbeem said:
It is time for Palafin to receive justice, Tera to be justifiably retested, and Volc to finally be freed. OU IS BACK!
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Finchinator likely already revealed what he considers fair game to be suspected, which are Palafin, Solgaleo, Kingambit, and Tera Blast. That first Tera suspect we got will probably still be the last we get for SV OU. Volc will not return unless Tera Blast is banned. Finchinator personally put in nearly 189K reacts, which is nearly 38% of the 500K total, to testing Palafin, so that's the only thing that has a chance of being suspected.
 
Avira said:
Finchinator likely already revealed what he considers fair game to be suspected, which are Palafin, Solgaleo, Kingambit, and Tera Blast. That first Tera suspect we got will probably still be the last we get for SV OU. Volc will not return unless Tera Blast is banned. Finchinator personally put in nearly 189K reacts, which is nearly 38% of the 500K total, to testing Palafin, so that's the only thing that has a chance of being suspected.
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but if the people want tera gone…
 
EpicGuy321 said:
but if the people want tera gone…
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Finchinator has done surveys that include action on Tera, and support for action on Tera decreased continuously with passing surveys and was like 25% for the qualified pool of survey takers the last time the question was posed. The appetite for banning Tera just isn't there among the SV OU playerbase, and that 25% wasn't even just for banning Tera outright but also banning Tera Blast, so support for banning Tera is even lower. It's safe to say that barring a huge change in playerbase sentiment that there will not be another Tera suspect.
 
if i had to guess, once this whole thing is over there will be some sort of shareholder-meeting-type deal where all the people who donated likes to the suspect pool will get to vote on what gets suspected, and their votes will be weighted by how much they spent. if this is how it works, that means the suspect is going to be either palafin or tera—i personally want gambit, but the palafin faction has over 300,000 likes and the tera faction has upwards of half a million (if they all actually show up and respond). so we can kinda already guess it's gonna be one of two things, unless i'm wrong about how the suspect gets decided
 
Way late to Rillaboom posting, but consider the following:

:sv/Rillaboom:
Rillaboom @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Grassy Surge
Tera Type: Grass/Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Seed
- Grassy Glide
- U-turn/ Knock off

What if boosted Wood Hammers didn't cause Rillaboom to kill itself or make contact with the opponent?
....That's it. That's the whole crux of this set:smogduck:

I thought it up five minutes after I got off from work.
 
I had been under the impression the Tera suspect already won, so I just gambled all my points. Now we keep seeing the Palafin votes getting pushed. Is the problem just that the voters need to confirm? I feel way out of the loop.
 
Bold School said:
I had been under the impression the Tera suspect already won, so I just gambled all my points. Now we keep seeing the Palafin votes getting pushed. Is the problem just that the voters need to confirm? I feel way out of the loop.
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A majority of the people who were pinged have not confirmed anything so until enough confirm to get 500k then it's not really going to go anywhere.
 
Bold School said:
I had been under the impression the Tera suspect already won, so I just gambled all my points. Now we keep seeing the Palafin votes getting pushed. Is the problem just that the voters need to confirm? I feel way out of the loop.
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Most of the people who purportedly supported a Tera resuspect are either banned or didn't confirm their intent to actually devote their points to that suspect test. The odds are that a Tera suspect is just outright not happening, and I may be wrong about this, but I can even see the OU Council vetoing it even if the support was there due to previous surveys showing a lack of support for it. So, yes, you most likely wasted your reacts to gambling.
 
Avira said:
Most of the people who purportedly supported a Tera resuspect are either banned or didn't confirm their intent to actually devote their points to that suspect test. The odds are that a Tera suspect is just outright not happening, and I can even see the OU Council vetoing it even if the support was there due to previous surveys showing a lack of support for it. So, yes, you most likely wasted your reacts to gambling.
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Its not like its an instant Terastalization ban for what its worth.
Bold School said:
I had been under the impression the Tera suspect already won, so I just gambled all my points. Now we keep seeing the Palafin votes getting pushed. Is the problem just that the voters need to confirm? I feel way out of the loop.
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Speaking of for what things are worth, I believe the head moderator stopped at the end of Page 8 for the day, so if you want to fix how you allocate points, you more than likely have the time to do so. You'd know your points have been spent if you see that your reaction score has been reduced.
 
SittinGamer said:
Its not like its an instant Terastalization ban for what its worth.
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Finchinator also indicated that it had to be something that wouldn't be a waste of time, and based on the last OU tiering survey in which there was a Tera question, I believe a Tera resuspect would be a waste of time, so it'd fall under that umbrella. 25% wanting action from the qualified pool of survey takers is too thin of a slice of players whose decisions contribute to tiering, so a Tera suspect would most likely be a non-starter.
 
Avira said:
So, yes, you most likely wasted your reacts to gambling.
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I had nothing else I wanted to buy with my current points. Gambling is still the most optimal buy for me.
SittinGamer said:
Its not like its an instant Terastalization ban for what its worth.

Speaking of for what things are worth, I believe the head moderator stopped at the end of Page 8 for the day, so if you want to fix how you allocate points, you more than likely have the time to do so. You'd know your points have been spent if you see that your reaction score has been reduced.
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Thank you. I had thought of this, but I don't wish to change my decision. It feels bad spending on temporary things. Nothing permanent I might want was affordable for me. The amount I have wouldn't likely wouldn't impact the Tera suspect thing enough.
 
Bold School said:
I had nothing else I wanted to buy with my current points. Gambling is still the most optimal buy for me.

Thank you. I had thought of this, but I don't wish to change my decision. It feels bad spending on temporary things. Nothing permanent I might want was affordable for me. The amount I have wouldn't likely wouldn't impact the Tera suspect thing enough.
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You could have saved for the 2025 edition, as this Likeshop will probably return next year as it seems like it'll be a popular event.
 
Avira said:
You could have saved for the 2025 edition, as this Likeshop will probably return next year as it seems like it'll be a popular event.
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That's already the goal. The gambling will either help or get me sympathy likes. Plus, it livens things up. Based on the amount I have, there appears to be about a 75% chance to not be totally screwed. It's a calculated risk with decent enough odds for something that isn't real money.

Besides, my current amount isn't really that difficult to get. I never actively farmed for likes because that seemed lame. Who would have guessed they would have actual value in anything? Now that we know, we can be strategic about it in the future.
 
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